That government shutdown, over illegals getting free healthcare and the like

[Scott Downey]

 

[Scott Downey]

 

[Scott Downey]

 

[ProverbsInPink]

The elected Democrats hate America. I think they're trying to stoke a civil war.

 

[bdavidc]

The elected Democrats hate America. I think they're trying to stoke a civil war.

It is sure looking that way.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

It is sure looking that way.

Communist are always at games of warfare 24/7 playing Games that the majority do not understand the workings of such Satanic displays of dog cunning in playing shallow people for fools !

Look at how Communist Russia got control !
Look at how Nazi Germany got control !

Now for the West, this was done in a Fabian way in fact, so as to slowly go about like a Python slowly strangling it's Pray to death ! it feels so comforting at first but only when one understands you are locked in, you will find it's to late !

 

[Scott Downey]

Yes, Democrats are defending Medicaid for illegal immigrants​

MSN

"Not a single federal dollar goes to providing health insurance for undocumented immigrants. NOT. ONE. PENNY." These were the words of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) in a recent X post, after Republicans accused Democrats of shutting down the government in order to keep funding Medicaid for illegal immigrants.


House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) echoed this same talking point, insisting, "Federal law prohibits the use of Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program and the Affordable Care Act to provide health insurance in any way, shape or form, to undocumented immigrants. Period, full stop. And Democrats aren't trying to change that."

FEDERAL AGENCY DIRECTS FURLOUGHED WORKERS TO BLAME DEMOCRATS FOR SHUTDOWN IN OUT-OF-OFFICE REPLY

But the truth is much more complicated. Federal money does indeed make it possible for states to extend Medicaid to millions of illegal immigrants. Democrats have shut down the government, in part, to keep things that way.

One of the methods states use to funnel federal dollars to healthcare for illegal immigrants is through "emergency" Medicaid. This is the part of the program intended to reimburse hospitals for providing emergency care to uninsured patients. In recent years, the amount of federal money used to provide such care to illegal immigrants has soared.


In 2020, emergency Medicaid spending on illegal immigrants was just $2.06 billion, according to the Foundation for Government Accountability. By 2024, that figure had ballooned to $6.15 billion — quite a bit more than one penny.

California is by far the chief offender, responsible for 74% of emergency Medicaid spending on illegal immigrants. The Golden State has even used emergency Medicaid funds to pay for managed care plans for undocumented immigrants — at a cost to federal taxpayers of nearly $373 million between October 2018 and June 2019.

At the beginning of 2024, all illegal immigrants in California became eligible for Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, thanks to legislation signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA). The state claims it only uses its own funds to cover the cost of coverage for undocumented immigrants. But it can only do so because of the massive amounts of federal Medicaid funding it uses to pay for benefits for the legal Medicaid population.


In May 2025, there were 14.4 million Medi-Cal enrollees; of that number, 1.6 million were illegal immigrants.

There are numerous other ways in which states provide Medicaid benefits to illegal immigrants. Many are deemed to be "lawfully residing" in the United States, despite their undocumented status — and thus qualify for the program. Others have been granted qualified alien status by states, which also opens the door to federal Medicaid funding.

HERE ARE THE GROUPS TRUMP HAS DESIGNATED AS TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS

The Republicans' July budget reconciliation package took steps toward cracking down on such abuses of the program by restricting which undocumented immigrants can qualify for the program through "lawfully residing" status. It also requires more regular eligibility checks for Medicaid enrollees and enforces new penalties for states with high rates of improper Medicaid payments.


It's hard to know what is worse — that Democrats oppose such commonsense reforms, or that they are willing to mislead the public so brazenly.

Sally C. Pipes is president, CEO, and Thomas W. Smith fellow in healthcare policy at the Pacific Research Institute. Her latest book is The World's Medicine Chest: How America Achieved Pharmaceutical Supremacy—and How to Keep It (Encounter 2025). Follow her on X @sallypipes.

 

[Scott Downey]

Democrats lie about this, and do not tell you the whole truth.
Just like Satan, they distort reality.
Has God said?

Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, “Yea, hath God said, ‘Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden,

3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, ‘Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it,lest ye die.’”

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, “Ye shall not surely die;

5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate.

7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves things to gird about.

 

[mailmandan]

Woke Mayor Brandon Johnson Compares Illegal Aliens To Civil War Era Slaves | Drew Hernandez * The Gateway Pundit * by Drew Hernandez

Woke Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson attempted to rebuke a reporter during a press conference on October 24, 2025, for using the term "illegal aliens" when asking about city spending.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[ProverbsInPink]

And now for a brief humorous interruption of, Liberals as usual.

 

[bdavidc]

Woke Mayor Brandon Johnson Compares Illegal Aliens To Civil War Era Slaves | Drew Hernandez * The Gateway Pundit * by Drew Hernandez

Woke Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson attempted to rebuke a reporter during a press conference on October 24, 2025, for using the term "illegal aliens" when asking about city spending.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Mayor Johnson is incorrect both in his logic and in his analogy. The phrase “illegal alien” is not a racist or mythical slur, it is the statutory term set out in U.S. immigration law for decades, describing a person who has entered or remained in the country unlawfully. Words have meaning, but redefining them for political comfort doesn’t change reality. Comparing that statutory term with the historical term “slave” is false and hurtful. Slavery was the forced ownership of human beings; illegal entry is a voluntary action that breaks established immigration laws. The two matters are not even remotely comparable. To conflate them insults both truth and history. Every person is made in God’s image and is to be treated with dignity, but that doesn’t eliminate accountability to law. Scripture also teaches that government is “the minister of God to thee for good… a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil” ~Romans 13:4. Maintaining the rule of law is not hate, it’s righteousness. What Mayor Johnson said rejects both the authority of law and the plain truth of Scripture.

 

[mailmandan]

Mayor Johnson is incorrect both in his logic and in his analogy. The phrase “illegal alien” is not a racist or mythical slur, it is the statutory term set out in U.S. immigration law for decades, describing a person who has entered or remained in the country unlawfully. Words have meaning, but redefining them for political comfort doesn’t change reality. Comparing that statutory term with the historical term “slave” is false and hurtful. Slavery was the forced ownership of human beings; illegal entry is a voluntary action that breaks established immigration laws. The two matters are not even remotely comparable. To conflate them insults both truth and history. Every person is made in God’s image and is to be treated with dignity, but that doesn’t eliminate accountability to law. Scripture also teaches that government is “the minister of God to thee for good… a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil” ~Romans 13:4. Maintaining the rule of law is not hate, it’s righteousness. What Mayor Johnson said rejects both the authority of law and the plain truth of Scripture.

Well said!

 

[ProverbsInPink]

And now for a brief humorous interruption of, Liberals as usual.

The #1 dumbest is going to hold that title for a very long time. Unless #1's arms get tired.

How is it Kamala's knowledge about cloud storage didn't get on that list?

 

[Rockerduck]

My wife's friend used Medicaid for her daughter and herself. She found another name on her policy and called about it and got it fixed. However, this is how they are piggybacking illegals onto Medicaid.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Part of the problem in the enabling of illegals is our lawmakers thinking immigration laws don't apply to undocumented non- resident aliens.
This is why I don't think we actually elect members of Congress. They're selected by those who buy them behind the scenes.
Not even New Yorkers are blind enough to think this woman is worthy of representing her district.

AOC's contribution on Congress is to give blond jokes a rest.

 

[Always]

Read this and agree with it
Political Parties aside : I don’t care if you’re Democrat or Republican
I have been employed in the social sevices field since 2018. For 7 and a half years. Food stamps and Medicaid is literally my JOB.
1st and foremost undocumented immigrants have ALWAYS been INELIGIBLE for benefits. The first thing we are required to verify is citizenship or legal status. Please stop with the narrative that all the benefits are going to illegals bc that has NOT EVER been the case. I understand what you see on the news and in your “for you “ pages. But I am personally in these trenches 5 days a week. If you see someone in a grocery store with a food stamp card, they either have the status to legally get it, or they are using someone elses (which is an argument for another day) Just bc they look the way they do or maybe do not speak english, that does NOT mean they are here illegally.

Secondly, the majority of the clients we serve are white. This also should not matter, but since non-white people are being accused of taking all the benefits, let me also clear that up.

Thirdly, the majority of our clients are…. Shocker here, so make sure you’re sitting down for this one….EMPLOYED. That’s right, they work. If they dont, they themselves are disabled or have severely disabled children.The cost of living has in no way shape or form kept up with average wages. So yes, they need help. You’ve got people making $13 an hour when average rent in our area is easily $1k plus. If you make $1040 biweekly before taxes, one paycheck is actually less than your rent. And this is not even including utilities, car payments, gas for your car, and household incidentals like laundry powder, toilet paper etc. Dont even get me started on daycare costs. And heaven help our disabled clients that have to make an amount similar to this one paycheck, last for an entire month.

I say all of this to to basically break down that I am personally disgusted and appalled by all of the hate and belittling. A lot of y’all need a reality check. If you have never needed benefits then good for you but a lot of people do, and for good reasons that they are in no way shape or form mandated to explain to you.
The majority of people in the US have less than 5,000 in savings and that is being generous. At all times, we are literally one step away from needing the benefits yall are currently laughing about. All it takes is one layoff. One heart attack. A stroke. A car accident. Hell even an unplanned pregnancy can tip the scales out of your favor in an instant.
Im not ashamed at all to say there was a time where foodstamps and medicaid got me thru. I was a single mom, in college, and despite working TWO jobs at the time I still fell short. These benefits supported me and my son so that I could take the steps to build us a better life without having to worry if we were going to eat that day. Unless you’ve had to make a choice between food and diapers, I suggest you sit this one out.

People are scared. And rightfully so. If you’re so worried about “fraud and abuse” within the system, please feel free to start a business and pay your employees an actual decent living wage so that you can say you contributed to making a world a better place.
If you do not have the means to do the above mentioned situation, kindly shut the hell up, and maybe go donate to your local food bank

 

[ProverbsInPink]

The One, Big, Beautiful Bill Ends Taxpayer-Funded Health Benefits for Illegal Immigrants

June 02, 2025
Illegal immigrants will no longer be able to pocket taxpayer-funded benefits meant for American citizens, thanks to The One, Big, Beautiful Bill which passed the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill shuts off access to billions of dollars of Obamacare premium tax credits and Medicare benefits for illegal immigrants, whose immigration status was expanded and abused in recent years by the Biden-Harris Administration – allowing them to qualify for health care benefits funded by working Americans.

“The American people made it clear in November they are fed up with their government putting them last. For four years, Joe Biden and his Border Czar Kamala Harris turned our border into a welcome mat for illegal immigrants and sent the bill to working Americans. Now, under President Trump’s leadership, we are putting our citizens first by ending taxpayer funded handouts to illegal immigrants and ensuring those dollars flow to hardworking Americans instead,” said Ways and Means Committee Chairman Jason Smith (MO-08).

The One, Big, Beautiful Bill Ends Taxpayer-Funded Health Benefits for Illegal Immigrants - Ways and Means

Illegal immigrants will no longer be able to pocket taxpayer-funded benefits meant for American citizens, thanks to The One, Big,...

waysandmeans.house.gov

Fact Check: Yes, Non-Citizens Are Getting Food Stamps, and a New Rule Will Cut Thousands Off - Election Central

Federal data shows non-citizens receive SNAP benefits. A new rule will remove about 90,000 non-citizens from food stamps, confirming the problem was real.

www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com

Fact Check: Yes, Non-Citizens Are Getting Food Stamps, and a New Rule Will Cut Thousands Off
October 31, 2025 by Nate Ashworth

For years, politicians and some media outlets have insisted that illegal aliens do not receive food stamps. They point to the rule that undocumented immigrants are not eligible for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). On paper, that is true. But federal data shows that non-citizens do collect food stamps in significant numbers, and a new eligibility change proves the government knows it.

Illegal Aliens Are on SNAP in Large Numbers​

Federal SNAP data shows that non-citizens are a measurable part of the program.

• At least 1.7 million non-citizens are receiving SNAP benefits (Source)
• USDA data shows that about 10.6 percent of all SNAP recipients are foreign-born, and 3.3 percent are non-citizens who are not naturalized

SNAP serves more than 41 million people per month. Even a few percentage points translates into millions of taxpayer dollars. Defenders of the current system often say undocumented immigrants cannot collect food stamps. Technically, that is correct on paper, but it’s not true in practical terms.

If a household has a U.S.-born child, that child can qualify the household for SNAP. Benefits issued for the child feed the entire household. This is how many mixed-status households legally receive SNAP. In that regard, having a single child citizen (anchor baby) provides many welfare benefits to entire families of illegal or undocumented immigrants.

The statement that illegal immigrants do not receive SNAP is merely a talking point based on the letter of the law, but the reality is that benefits can still support households that include people who are not citizens.

New Rule Will Remove 90,000 Non-Citizens From SNAP​

A new federal rule tightening SNAP eligibility confirms how widespread non-citizen participation has become. Under the new law, certain non-citizen categories will no longer qualify.

• About 90,000 non-citizens will lose SNAP under the rule change (Source)

Many are in temporary legal categories such as humanitarian parole or refugee status. But the change proves something important: The government would not be removing 90,000 non-citizens from SNAP if non-citizens were not receiving SNAP in significant numbers.


The narrative that only citizens receive SNAP has never lined up with the numbers. The next steps should involve paring down the program significantly.

Why It Matters​

SNAP exists to help low-income Americans feed their families, for what is intended to be temporary help. Citizens who work, pay taxes, and contribute to the system expect the safety net to put them first. Yet while grocery prices hit record highs, more than a million non-citizens have been receiving taxpayer-funded food assistance. This further drives up the cost of groceries and household goods for working families.
The new rule shows that lawmakers know the program has drifted away from its original mission. Tightening eligibility is an acknowledgment that SNAP needs to be refocused on Americans who are struggling and block any access to assistance programs for anyone who is not a citizen or naturalized citizen.

Bottom Line​

It is not true that only citizens receive food stamps. In truth, the number is likely far larger than the admitted 1.7 million illegals receiving SNAP benefits. Blue states, like California and New York, work to obscure these stats and play accounting games to enroll as many as possible, regardless of citizenship status.

Non-citizens, including recent arrivals, are on SNAP in measurable numbers. A new rule will remove about 90,000 non-citizens, proving the issue is real and large enough that the federal government had to step in. This is a small start to a systemic problem that hasn’t been fully investigated.

Democrats have been lying to conceal this fact, but the truth is out in the open.

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Nate Ashworth
The Founder and Editor-In-Chief of Election Central. He's been blogging elections and politics for over a decade. He started covering the 2008 Presidential Election which turned into a full-time political blog in 2012 and 2016 that continues today.
Tags food stamp, illegal immigration, snap, welfare

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[ProverbsInPink]

Refugees will be among the first to lose food stamps under federal changes

Under Trump's budget law, food assistance for refugees will be sliced. The change is sowing fear, uncertainty and a struggle for survival.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Always]

If a household has a U.S.-born child,

Bottom Line
It is not true that only citizens receive food stamps. In truth, the number is likely far larger than the admitted 1.7 million illegals receiving SNAP benefits. Blue states, like California and New York, work to obscure these stats and play accounting games to enroll as many as possible, regardless of citizenship status.

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So, according to YOUR POST it's the US born child that is receiving the help which would make your bottom line a lie?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

So, according to YOUR POST it's the US born child that is receiving the help which would make your bottom line a lie?

No.