Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?

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There is only one real God. You will notice that before the crucifixion there were Gods for everything. Those were demons taking advantage of humans that did not know any better. When people built great Temples to them it was because they actually could make of break mankind. You will notice all those temples now lay abandoned and broken down. The reason is that the early Christians now had the ability to use the authority of Christ to bind those gods and send them packing. Hence we no longer see any of them
Pagan temples and shrines did not disappear in the day of the crucifixion. Their disappearance was caused by the fire and sword of Christian armies and took many centuries.
 

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Do you read Greek or are you just parroting some Jehovah Witness training nonsense?

Θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε· μονογενὴς Θεὸς ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ Πατρὸς, ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο.

Color the true God in the verse in red.
one word ends in the g like character, the other word ends in a v like character= 2 different words--translated= God and god.

If you don't believe the truth i share, then explain to all of us why god is at 2 Cor 4:4 and the same exact word is God at John 1:1--what is the translating rule for that?
 

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one word ends in the g like character, the other word ends in a v like character= 2 different words--translated= God and god.
No, this is totally wrong. Both are the same words, but in a different case. Do you even know that some languages, Greek included, have different cases?

If you don't believe the truth i share, then explain to all of us why god is at 2 Cor 4:4 and the same exact word is God at John 1:1--what is the translating rule for that?
You do not share any truth, you share a Jehovist dogma. And you do not even understand the things you are saying, because you do not read Greek. Somebody from your organization just sent you here to fight for that, without any proper training.

Do not say "explain it to all of us", you are the member of a small fringe sect, here. Do not try to to turn the tables.

Your question has no meaning. Both verses have the same word. Using "g" or "G" depends on the translator and on his understanding of the context.
 
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No, this is totally wrong. Both are the same words, but in a different case. Do you even know that some languages, Greek included, have different cases?


You do not share any truth, you share a Jehovist dogma. And you do not even understand the things you are saying, because you do not read Greek. Somebody from your organization just sent you here to fight for that, without any proper training.

Do not say "explain it to all of us", you are the member of a small fringe sect, here. Do not try to to turn the tables.

Your question has no meaning. Both verses have the same word. Using "g" or "G" depends on the translator and on his understanding of the contex
Then explain to all of us please in your Greek expertise why the same word ending in a v like character to both the Word and satan gets translated 2 different ways. What is the translating rule that allows that?
God is called Ton Theon in both spots, the Word and satan are not called that.
 

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Then explain to all of us
No, just to you. Others understand.

please in your Greek expertise why the same word ending in a v like character to both the Word and satan gets translated 2 different ways. What is the translating rule that allows that?
God is called Ton Theon in both spots, the Word and satan are not called that.
"Ton theon" is just a different case than for example "ho theos", not a different word.

Learn what cases mean in languages like German, Greek, Slavic languages etc. Koiné Greek has 5 nominal cases and for example Polish has 7.
 
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No, just to you. Others understand.


"Ton theon" is just a different case than for example "ho theos", not a different word.

Learn what cases mean in languages like German, Greek, Slavic languages etc. Koiné Greek has 5 nominal cases and for example Polish has 7.
100% fact= a god to the word is correct.
 

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100% fact= a god to the word is correct.
It is hard to understand even your English. So, I think you should learn more about languages before attempting to discuss ancient koiné Greek.
 
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It is hard to understand even your English. So, I think you should learn more about languages before attempting to discuss ancient koiné Greek.
My English is clear. Maybe you need to restudy. The Word--WAS NOT called capitol G GOD= 100% fact---do you understand that? Catholicism put capitol G God to fit their false council teaching that God is a trinity.
 

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My English is clear. Maybe you need to restudy. The Word--WAS NOT called capitol G GOD= 100% fact---do you understand that? Catholicism put capitol G God to fit their false council teaching that God is a trinity.
Yeah, yeah... capitol. Prfekt Inglish. Catholicism, false council blah blah blah.
 
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Is the claim of only one God false?​


So answer your own question? Yes or no?

STV isn't too good at answering direct questions.
 

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Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?​


We recognize the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?

Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods? How many and for what purposes?

How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?

In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.

The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.

- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?


The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.

Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
We recognize the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?
 

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We recognize the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?

Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods? How many and for what purposes?

How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?

In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.

The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.

- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?


The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.

Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.

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The early Israelites religion was polytheistic.
Also,they were monolatrous. Meaning while they worshipped one God,they also recognized other deities.
 
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3 Gods on 3 thrones. Yeshua siting on the right hand of the Father.
I believe in…
God the Father…Yahweh…God Almighty…Creator of Heaven and Earth and Adam and Eve…..

God the Son…Yeshua…the Son of God…Messiah…Savior…Redeemer.

The Holy Spirit…the unnamed God…helper…guide… teacher… strengthener….nurturer…..

The term Trinity was coined early on but was not defined as 3 in 1 until the 4th century.

The 3 in 1 formula was developed by the Roman Catholic Church and sadly adopted by Protestants.

One God in the Old Testament.....Yahweh said Himself several times.....I am the only God and there is no one like me.

In the New Testament 3 Gods....Yahweh.....Yeshus....The Holy Spirit.

The Apostles understood the supremacy and uniqueness of Yahweh and would say One True God.....and In verses would refer to God the Father as God and God the Son as Lord in the same verse. Example---->For the love of God and our Lord Jesus. Notice the ands.

The Father is greater than I and over 50 "My Father verses.

"Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." This verse emphasizes the importance of acknowledging Jesus' lordship for salvation.” Romans 10:9: One God raised another.

"May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." 2nd Corinthians" 13:14: Three Gods mentioned....Jesus as Lord and the love of God and the Holy Spirit.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms." Ephesians 1:3: "God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

"Then Jesus came to them and said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.'" This verse underscores Jesus' divine authority over all creation. Matthew 28:18: He did not give authority to Himself.

"Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live." This verse emphasizes the unique position of Jesus as Lord in relation to God the Father." 1st Corinthians 8:6: One God and One Lord.

"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah." This verse affirms Jesus' role as both Lord and Savior." Acts 2:36 "God has made"

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His [a]only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16 Yahweh is the Father and He begot a Son Yeshua,

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.” Matthew 3:17 God was not pleased with Himself.
 
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Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?​


We recognize the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?
But we don't read in the bible that there should only be one God, but that there is only one God:

Isa_45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me. I will gird you, though you have not known Me,
Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods? How many and for what purposes?

How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?

In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.

The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.
Yes, down through the ages, people have believed in other gods, like a god of the sun, a god of war, a god of love, and so on. But that doesn't mean that such gods actually exist. As Paul wrote to the Christians in Galatia about the gods they believed in before they became Christians:

(Gal 4:8) But then, indeed, when you did not know God, you served those which by nature are not gods.

- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?


The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.

Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
We recognize the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?
But there is no "should be":

(Isa 44:6) "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God.

The apostle Paul was saying to the Athenians that this one true God was unknown to them. After the words in the verses you quoted, we find Paul making clear that the way they were worshipping what was to them an unknown God was wrong:

(Act 17:24) God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
(Act 17:25) Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.
 
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