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Big Boy Johnson

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The people over in that nation state are not of Yah

Yah? It's OK to say GOD and it's OK to says Jesus

And yes, those are the descendants of Abraham and are Jews according to the flesh, except for the moslems living in Israel

God has been protecting Israel since they came back in 1948. Without the Lord, they would have been destroyed the first year!



The great muhammed began this religion

Wow! You are saying mohamed the so called prophet and leader of islam is "great" crazy.gif

You really need to repent my friend because followers of islam such as yourself are going to hell

No wonder you hate the Jews so much! clueless-doh.gif
 

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The discussion is NOT on forced rape = that is crystal clear = FORCED

The discussions main focus is on the fact that God created male/female with sexual desire that begins at a very early age of 12.
God, who weighs the intents and motives made CLEAR that BOTH participants have RESPONSIBILTY to God's law on sexual purity.

AGAIN - Initial Post Repeated= the Discussion is on how factual evidence determines what took place = over 4 Years

Always examine all evidence and remember - people lie or adjust the facts to their favor.

LEGAL/LAW Questions to ask
#1 - How long was the liaison active?
#2 - What were the ages of the 'participants'?
#3 - Was the young woman forced?
#4 - Was she coerced? If, 'yes', in what way/manner
#5 - Did she confide in any one that she was being forced or coerced??? = If 'yes' = when and to whom
#5 - Why did she wait 40 years to come forward?
#6 - MANY young woman DESIRE older men and are active participants which is a TRAP for all men and women.
#7 - When i was 20 years old(unsaved), i turned away many a young woman who desired my muscular & handsome physique

#8 - What if i enjoyed that "pleasure of sin for the moment" with the willing girl and now 40 years later she cries "assault"


AGAIN - girls as young as 12 can have strong sexual desires and seek out to explore = especially with boys/men older then themselves.
Thus why GOD gave CLEAR judgment on this matter which is NOT about forced rape.

Many young underage girls are SEEKING sexual encounters = more so now then ever because of the pollution on the internet.
One girl, age 12, was so sexually active that she arranged meet-ups with older men for sex.
She did it one too many times and ended up dead.

What about 14, 15, 16, 17 age "girls-gone-wild' with older men = GOD Says both the young women and the men are GUILTY

Satan tempted Eve to get to Adam = this has never stopped and the power of Sin works BOTH ways

This is NOT about exonerating a perpetrator which can be a man or a woman.
ok, what IS it about then? What is the point you are trying to make? My mind is boggled. To start with I can't fathom a 12 year old child "craving sex with older men"....that sounds like a pedophile's fantasy to me.
 

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Yes, according to U.S. law, if an adult man has sexual relations with a 12-year-old girl, it’s a crime in every single state. It’s called “statutory rape” or “sexual abuse of a minor,” and it comes with jail time.

The age of consent varies by state, but it’s generally between 16 and 18. For a 12-year-old, the concept of consent doesn’t even apply because they’re legally incapable of giving it. Even if she seemed to “agree,” it wouldn’t matter legally because she hasn’t reached the age where she can make that decision.

So, if you had sexual relations with a 12-year-old and she came forward years later, yes, you would go to jail.

You’d be sitting in a cell, explaining your twisted pedophilic theology to your cellmates.

On one hand, it's humane, but on the other hand, Jesus insisted that it would be better to drown such offenders.
#1 - Please keep in mind that this discussion is NOT on RAPE or FORCED COERCION

Which is why it is so important for there to be statue of limitations EXCEPT for murder and rape.

Even if she seemed to “agree,” it wouldn’t matter legally
It does matter legally because 'intent' plays a critical role in the Judges decision of the Penalty phase.
This is what i was sharing with you on GOD's POV

In the Judgement of all men/women/children, God will reveal and JUDGE the intent & motives of the heart = Jeremiah 107:9

The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?
I, the Lord, search the heart,
I test the mind,
Even to give every man according to his ways, = this includes children as well(let's say 12 years old and up)
According to the fruit of his doings.

Therefore, a 12 year old girl who is sexually active on her own, will be judged by GOD the SAME as the man no matter what his age.

Think on this scenario:

When i was 16 (unsaved) i had a girlfriend(Rebecca) who was 14.
Rebecca was already sexually active before we began dating = she gave up her virginity to another prior to me.
Two years later i am 18 and Rebecca is 16 and we have been going 'Hot-n-Heavy' for two years now.

BIG PROBLEM with the 'law' today = 40 years LATER, Rebecca could come forward and say she "changed her mind" and that she 'did not know' what we were doing was wrong!!!
i could go to jail as she skips down the road = PERVERSION of JUSTICE

This is the MAIN POINT of Deuteronomy 22:23-24

“If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her,
then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones,
the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor’s wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you.
 

David in NJ

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ok, what IS it about then? What is the point you are trying to make? My mind is boggled. To start with I can't fathom a 12 year old child "craving sex with older men"....that sounds like a pedophile's fantasy to me.
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How old are you???

i grew up in the 70's and 80's when most EVERYONE was sexually active as early as 12
 

David in NJ

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Not where I grew up.
Were you raised in a red light district?
Yeah - the High School

We grew up under Led Zepplin, Stones, AC/DC, Joan Jett, Bad Company, Aerosmith and more

We were influenced by Farrah Fawcett, Bo Derek , Clint Eastwood, National Lampoon Caddy Shack, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and more
 

David in NJ

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ok, what IS it about then? What is the point you are trying to make? My mind is boggled. To start with I can't fathom a 12 year old child "craving sex with older men"....that sounds like a pedophile's fantasy to me.
Be careful of the 'pedeophile ' accusation as GOD created them male & female and the age of consent/marriage was 12 for a girl.
APPROVED by GOD


Mary, who gave birth to JESUS, was between 12 and 16 years old = APPROVED by GOD & the HOLY SPIRIT
 
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Mary, who gave birth to JESUS, was between 12 and 16 years old = APPROVED by GOD & the HOLY SPIRIT
Most Christian historians believe Mary was between 15 and 16 years old when Jesus was born.
But nobody knows for sure.
Different culture in those days.
 

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It's you who isn't listening or comprehending. You don't even seem to fully understand what the law itself is telling you.

From a legal standpoint: Even if a 12-year-old initiates contact, undresses you, and begs for sex, the moment you, an adult, engage in any sexual activity with that child, you are the one committing the crime. Not the 12-year-old. The law recognizes that an adult is capable of consent and a child is not. Period. And you will be the one going to prison.

From a moral standpoint: A responsible adult has a duty to stop inappropriate behavior from a minor, not to encourage it. The moral obligation is on the adult to set an example for the child, not the other way around.

So, in any and every case, if you have sex with a 12-year-old child, you will be the pedophile and the pervert. You will be the one sitting in a prison cell, where you can complain to your cellmate about how you were "seduced" by a child.
I already know that . i done said THEY should go to prison .
Good night .
 

David in NJ

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Most Christian historians believe Mary was between 15 and 16 years old when Jesus was born.
But nobody knows for sure.
Different culture in those days.

Mary, most likely was betrothed to Joseph between 12 & 14 with the marriage up to two years later.

Scholars and theologians often estimate that Mary was likely between the ages of 12 and 16 when she conceived Jesus. This estimation arises from the understanding of the cultural customs of early marriages in ancient Palestine.
 

David in NJ

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Most Christian historians believe Mary was between 15 and 16 years old when Jesus was born.
But nobody knows for sure.
Different culture in those days.
P.S. > GOD knows - HE was there!!!

BEFORE and AFTER
 

amigo de christo

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Mary, most likely was betrothed to Joseph between 12 & 14 with the marriage up to two years later.
muhammed married his other wife at her sixth year of life then bed her in her ninth .
WHAT DO that tell ya . No marvel it was HE who began this religoin of ISLAM too .
Not saying all muslims do that , but I AM saying It be a false religoin that began from such a man .
And they darn sure do DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST THE SON OF GOD . so even that alone
proves that be a false religoin .
IN fact i dont care how kind ones religoin appears , like budism and hinduism
ITS ALL of the darkness . IT cannot save them . THEIR works cannot save them
and their DENIAL OF JESUS gonna grave them all .
To the trenches david for the hour is later than it was even this morning .
 

David in NJ

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muhammed married his other wife at her sixth year of life then bed her in her ninth .
WHAT DO that tell ya . No marvel it was HE who began this religoin of ISLAM too .
Not saying all muslims do that , but I AM saying It be a false religoin that began from such a man .
And they darn sure do DENY JESUS IS THE CHRIST THE SON OF GOD . so even that alone
proves that be a false religoin .
IN fact i dont care how kind ones religoin appears , like budism and hinduism
ITS ALL of the darkness . IT cannot save them . THEIR works cannot save them
and their DENIAL OF JESUS gonna grave them all .
To the trenches david for the hour is later than it was even this morning .
Many many muslims are marrying girls as young as 6.

My father-in-law showed me a current video of a muslim married girl full pregnancy at 8

Thus their religion of rape, murder and 70 virgins
 

amigo de christo

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P.S. > GOD knows - HE was there!!!

BEFORE and AFTER
All he gonna do is keep accusing you of being a pedophile or supporter of pedophiles .
We need to move on from this my friend .
Time for to preach JESUS and every WORD of ALL MIGHTY GOD for to learn and to read .
Cause what most do not realize is
when they sit and pick and choose what scrips to beleive and what to omit .
Say for example some omit the lake of fire
YET GOD made mention of it .
JUST as surely as HE made mention of CHRIST JESUS and ETERNAL LIFE .
SO allow me to remind us of something .
WHEN THESE folks sit under men that omit and twist things
GUESS WHO they are all CALLING A LIAR . A HINT , ITS THE ONE WHO SAID THEM and or INSPIRED THEM .
WHICH WOULD BE GOD . pretty scary aint it . CALLING GOD A LIAR but their pastors true .
ITS SUPPOSED TO BE LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar
Many call GOD a liar david . A LIAR . Please understand I say this out of fear for them ,
cause THAT WONT BE BODING WELL at all f or them ON THE DAY OF THE JUDGMENT OF GOD ALL MIGHTY and THE LAMB .
calling GOD a liar . deadly dan gerous to do so . Yet many love a lie .
but sheep LOVE TRUTH and buy TRUTH and sell HER NOT . that is what a sheep do for JESUS HAS HIS SHEEP
and has given them hearts by which TO LOVE GOD ALL MIGHTY as GOD ALWAYS desired to be OBEYED .
 

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All he gonna do is keep accusing you of being a pedophile or supporter of pedophiles .
We need to move on from this my friend .
Time for to preach JESUS and every WORD of ALL MIGHTY GOD for to learn and to read .
Cause what most do not realize is
when they sit and pick and choose what scrips to beleive and what to omit .
Say for example some omit the lake of fire
YET GOD made mention of it .
JUST as surely as HE made mention of CHRIST JESUS and ETERNAL LIFE .
SO allow me to remind us of something .
WHEN THESE folks sit under men that omit and twist things
GUESS WHO they are all CALLING A LIAR . A HINT , ITS THE ONE WHO SAID THEM and or INSPIRED THEM .
WHICH WOULD BE GOD . pretty scary aint it . CALLING GOD A LIAR but their pastors true .
ITS SUPPOSED TO BE LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar
Many call GOD a liar david . A LIAR . Please understand I say this out of fear for them ,
cause THAT WONT BE BODING WELL at all f or them ON THE DAY OF THE JUDGMENT OF GOD ALL MIGHTY and THE LAMB .
calling GOD a liar . deadly dan gerous to do so . Yet many love a lie .
but sheep LOVE TRUTH and buy TRUTH and sell HER NOT . that is what a sheep do for JESUS HAS HIS SHEEP
and has given them hearts by which TO LOVE GOD ALL MIGHTY as GOD ALWAYS desired to be OBEYED .
My main emphasis is how GOD sees into the heart and weighs the intents and motives = Jeremiah 17:9
 
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Many many muslims are marrying girls as young as 6.

My father-in-law showed me a current video of a muslim married girl full pregnancy at 8

Thus their religion of rape, murder and 70 virgins
Hyprocrisy runs rampant in these last hours my friend
For example we got some who will stand and contend and defend
the children from predators . YET if a man dares to make mention
of the fact that The RCC and its peodophile priests were touching on little boys
And makes the connection that IS SAME sex
ALL OF A SUDDEN that man is silenced as though a hater .
AND YET the door is wide open for them to continue to target the little boys .
SO MUCH for caring about the children , I GUESS some care more about the rainbow if ya know what i mean .
YOU GO and examine all those peodophile cases in THE RCC
MEN on boys in most all cases . EQUALS same sex .
Peodophile straight men target girls , peodophile gay men BOYS .
but this greatly angers this generation . GUESS THEY DONT REALLY care about the kids at all , IF it touches the rainbow .
 

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Hyprocrisy runs rampant in these last hours my friend
For example we got some who will stand and contend and defend
the children from predators . YET if a man dares to make mention
of the fact that The RCC and its peodophile priests were touching on little boys
And makes the connection that IS SAME sex
ALL OF A SUDDEN that man is silenced as though a hater .
AND YET the door is wide open for them to continue to target the little boys .
SO MUCH for caring about the children , I GUESS some care more about the rainbow if ya know what i mean .
YOU GO and examine all those peodophile cases in THE RCC
MEN on boys in most all cases . EQUALS same sex .
Peodophile straight men target girls , peodophile gay men BOYS .
but this greatly angers this generation . GUESS THEY DONT REALLY care about the kids at all , IF it touches the rainbow .
AND that my Brother is where i was leading us towards = thank you for pointing out the Hypocrisy of Religion & Politics
 

amigo de christo

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AND that my Brother is where i was leading us towards = thank you for pointing out the Hypocrisy of Religion & Politics
Happy to have helped my friend .
Exposing all things of the darkness is what the light does do .
And boy do i have a powerful ecuminecal harlot and her intefaith TO EXPOSE . that whore done made
her way into just about any place known to man now .
The sheep follow KING JESUS no matter the cost . And they have bought the TRUTH and sell her not .
LIGHT exposes the darkness , it dont try and cover it up and say ALL is well , its all good folks .
THAT AINT LIGHT
that is the DARKNESS and HE who is king of the darkness and yet can APPEAR as an angel of light .
BUT the sheep dont heed that voice . FOR JESUS has the sheep .