David in NJ
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i believe it is Deuteronomy and i have to perk my brain to remember where
When i find it i will post and THANK YOU for asking
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When i find it i will post and THANK YOU for asking
amigo de christo
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one day
On THE DAY
which is HIS DAY many are gonna realize , oh dear we should have warned against and not heeded
the ecumenical interfaith cry of a harlot . ONLY On that day ITS TOO LATE . many are gonna wail scott .
and wail loudly for they sat under the love of a harlot and NOT THE GOD AND HIS LOVE which could have saved them .
Big Boy Johnson
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News Flash, we don't live under the old covenant anymore.
Parents that do this will be sent to prison.
Now, if they catch the perp in the act in real time as it's happening, then they have the legal right to self defense.
But, God does not condone taking vengeance after the fact
Romans 12:19
Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Which is not part of the New Covenant in which we live under now.
You really gotta learn God's Word man, you are embarrassing yourself here
David in NJ
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Triumph1300
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People sit in Churches all their lives and still don't have a clue.
One ear IN, the other ear OUT.
But the social group events are nice.
Chrysostomos
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David in NJ
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What an interesting thread. I once believed in Dispensationalism, as many here still obviously do. Until I met Christ that is. Its not difficult to research the early church fathers teachings on eschatology or the Jews for that matter. All the available documents are available on line, and often free of charge.
Dispensationalism, which is a relatively new interpretation of eschatology, flies directly in the face of everything that was understood and taught by the early church. Its rubbish, and its origins are well documented.
And it is the prime source of all the bickering and division that takes place in this thread, as well as most of the evil taking place in the world right now. Its nothing less than the Zionist playbook used by Satan himself to bring about the great end times deception that we were so profusely warned about in scripture.
So I guess my question is, why in the world wouldn't anyone who calls themselves a christian even be willing to look further into the topic of Dispensationalism and its ungodly origins? If even the possibility exists that you could be deceived, wouldn't a reasonable person want to make sure that they are believing the correct things?
I grew up being taught all of this nonsense, and I believed every bit of it. It was difficult I must admit, to completely relearn everything I had been force fed since my youth, but well worth it I assure you.
God made a promise to Abraham, who was neither an Israelite or a Jew. And because of that one promise, and 150 years of scripture twisting by the likes of John Darby, Cyrus Scofield and their adherents, the whole world has come to the precipice of total annihilation. Its madness!!!
Satan must be laughing, as he has actually convinced those who claim to be the spiritual temple of God, that Christ cannot return until a physical temple of God be rebuilt, which serves no purpose whatsoever, other than to be the location where Satan himself declares himself to be God.
Some of you in this thread have clearly lost your minds, and unless you wake up and repent, will undoubtedly lose your souls. And why, because you simply refused to do the Berean thing and dig just a little bit deeper to see whether or not what the rest of us have been trying so desperately to warn you about for decades could actually be true?
Nothing is what you think it is folks, which is exactly how a reasonable Christian would view the world in the light of everything the scripture tells us about the days we are living in. Satan has but one power, to deceive. Did not Christ tell us that few would be saved? Did He not warn us about false gospels, false prophets and false Christs? Did He not tell us that many who professed to not only know Him but to have done many deeds in His name would be rejected?
Was it not Christ who called the Jews of His day a brood of vipers and children of the devil? Was it not Christ who coined the term "Synagogue of Satan" while speaking of those who pretend to be Jews? Was it not Christ who prophesied the destruction of the temple and declared desolation to the generation who nailed Him to the cross? Was it not Christ who plainly stated that there were some standing here who would not die before he returned? Did not Christ tell the High Priest that he would see Him sitting at the right hand of power and coming in the clouds?
To hell with your eschatology, hear the words of Christ Himself. He wasn't using metaphor or speaking in parables. Will you continue to reject His clear and clearly understandable words for the twisted fantasies of a few men who spoke on their own authority? Seriously?
You have been warned. Cast down your intellectual idols and receive the clearly spoken truth of none other than the Truth Himself, Christ Jesus your Lord, if indeed He is your Lord.
Father have mercy.
Christ Have mercy.
Holy Spirit lift the veil from their eyes.
Dispensationalism, which is a relatively new interpretation of eschatology, flies directly in the face of everything that was understood and taught by the early church. Its rubbish, and its origins are well documented.
And it is the prime source of all the bickering and division that takes place in this thread, as well as most of the evil taking place in the world right now. Its nothing less than the Zionist playbook used by Satan himself to bring about the great end times deception that we were so profusely warned about in scripture.
So I guess my question is, why in the world wouldn't anyone who calls themselves a christian even be willing to look further into the topic of Dispensationalism and its ungodly origins? If even the possibility exists that you could be deceived, wouldn't a reasonable person want to make sure that they are believing the correct things?
I grew up being taught all of this nonsense, and I believed every bit of it. It was difficult I must admit, to completely relearn everything I had been force fed since my youth, but well worth it I assure you.
God made a promise to Abraham, who was neither an Israelite or a Jew. And because of that one promise, and 150 years of scripture twisting by the likes of John Darby, Cyrus Scofield and their adherents, the whole world has come to the precipice of total annihilation. Its madness!!!
Satan must be laughing, as he has actually convinced those who claim to be the spiritual temple of God, that Christ cannot return until a physical temple of God be rebuilt, which serves no purpose whatsoever, other than to be the location where Satan himself declares himself to be God.
Some of you in this thread have clearly lost your minds, and unless you wake up and repent, will undoubtedly lose your souls. And why, because you simply refused to do the Berean thing and dig just a little bit deeper to see whether or not what the rest of us have been trying so desperately to warn you about for decades could actually be true?
Nothing is what you think it is folks, which is exactly how a reasonable Christian would view the world in the light of everything the scripture tells us about the days we are living in. Satan has but one power, to deceive. Did not Christ tell us that few would be saved? Did He not warn us about false gospels, false prophets and false Christs? Did He not tell us that many who professed to not only know Him but to have done many deeds in His name would be rejected?
Was it not Christ who called the Jews of His day a brood of vipers and children of the devil? Was it not Christ who coined the term "Synagogue of Satan" while speaking of those who pretend to be Jews? Was it not Christ who prophesied the destruction of the temple and declared desolation to the generation who nailed Him to the cross? Was it not Christ who plainly stated that there were some standing here who would not die before he returned? Did not Christ tell the High Priest that he would see Him sitting at the right hand of power and coming in the clouds?
To hell with your eschatology, hear the words of Christ Himself. He wasn't using metaphor or speaking in parables. Will you continue to reject His clear and clearly understandable words for the twisted fantasies of a few men who spoke on their own authority? Seriously?
You have been warned. Cast down your intellectual idols and receive the clearly spoken truth of none other than the Truth Himself, Christ Jesus your Lord, if indeed He is your Lord.
Father have mercy.
Christ Have mercy.
Holy Spirit lift the veil from their eyes.
Yes, that is saying a lot.....sounds like he was privy to information that could get a person killed, huh. This world is much sicker than I used to know.
Chrysostomos
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Raped children who hate Israel
amigo de christo
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For many are far too busy with whats IN with todays generation
and for more favorable conditions now cast OUT the words of GOD which are viewed more and more as offensive .
But what i say to one i say to all
ITS time to come OUT of such places and get IN the bible for oneself to learn and to grow .
David in NJ
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Good Morning,
Agree = it works both ways as women have a special God-Given ability to persuade the man = either for GOOD or for Bad
Satan recognized this and went after Eve so that thru her persuasion, she took down Adam - her husband.
Because of sin, Adam and men have oppressed women in horrific ways.
Likewise, women are also enticing and enslaving men thru the sin of lust.
The Pinnacle of Sin in a Man and Woman is Ahab and Jezebel and the Finality of this SIN is the Harlot riding the Beast
Think on how many are under the Spell of the Woman, who is the Roman Catholic Church
GOD has concluded ALL under sin = Man/Woman as well as the Jew/Gentile who collectively are in Desperate NEED of Salvation.
SHALOM and forgive my lateness in responding
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This kind of accusation is being hurled at me as well by people on this forum, because I say that the leadership over Israel are not true Jews. They are the synagogue of satan. The accusation of being antisemitic is the going trend for anyone who disapproves of what Israel is doing .....including international child sex trafficking, and murdering children in Gaza.
David in NJ
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My wife is Jewish and she is SAVED for she loves her MESSIAH = the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Recently, my wife and i led a Jewish rabbi to the Lord Jesus Christ and yet i have been called an anti-semite by the 'christians' on this forum.
I know it's okay to say God or Jesus, I prefer Yah
Who is Israel ?
Yah made a covenant with whom ?
Who broke that covenant ?
It's only ONE group of people that did !!!!
Deuteronomy 28
15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
20 The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
21 The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
24 The Lord shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.
27 The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:
29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.
33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
35 The Lord shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
36 The Lord shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee.
38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
47 Because thou servedst not the Lord thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the Lord shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
49 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:
You will know them by the curses... Who
People in that nation state are fakes , they left Black and came back white..
Chrysostomos
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Yes! This forum is turning into a straight-up breeding ground for shameless lying trolls, pedophilia apologists, and, as usual, a shocking number of them turn out to be hardcore Zionists.
Coincidence? Hardly. The mask keeps slipping in the exact same direction.
Maybe that overlap isn’t random. Maybe there’s a very real pattern here.
There is plenty of sin and wrong to go around for both genders I have no doubt.
And just want to point out.....the bible says Adam was with Eve when she had that conversation with the serpent and ate the cursed fruit......but I am not sure what we are to conclude from that.
We need to be very careful of tarring every individual with the same broad brush. Governments are not the people, or at least not all of them. Israel has political divisions and conflict much like we have here in the west.....not everyone agrees with what their government is doing, just like many of us in the west don't agree with everything our governments are doing. And Israel has deep state influences to contend with like here as well. On top of that it's very hard to know what is actually true when all sides are busy spinning propaganda to support their side...all anyone has are political opinions based on what information (true or untrue) they happen to be imbibing.
David in NJ
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Good Morning
Some say that Adam was with Eve, i am not one that holds to that theory.
Example: On the surface of Scripture, it seems as though JESUS and the Apostles initially spoke of an 'imminent Return of the Lord'.
Yet upon FULL study we SEE Jesus saying, "HE is going far far away and then when He returns" - likewise Jesus said that the Gospel will be preached in all the world and then the End will come = also the OT Prophets and elsewhere gives the FULL understanding.
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