Trump has abandoned America First

[Reggie Belafonte]

So Trump said that he has abandoned Amarica first ?

Or is that just only more slandering idiots telling more BS.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

I agree.

I'm surprised

We bomb countries all the time that have never attacked us. That's an act of war.

All the time?
Please list those countries and the dates.

It's four billion dollars that could instead go towards America and helping Americans.

Israel are our allies.
And as Americans know, billions of dollars support citizens domestically too.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Then scripture is wrong.

So says a self identified Agnostic.
Who freely chooses to spend time on a religious community forum while admittedly knowing nothing about the Bibles scriptures.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

So Trump said that he has abandoned Amarica first ?

We'll be waiting a very long time for that proof.

Or is that just only more slandering idiots telling more BS.

There you go.
You can always tell those who aren't actually living in America by how much hateful vitriol they spew against America and our leaders.

 

[Aunty Jane]

It's four billion dollars that could instead go towards America and helping Americans.

Follow the money trail.... corruption is always at the bottom of every war that enriches some whilst impoverishing others.....couple that with how many wars are fought in someone else’s country....when was the last time America and her allies (my own country included) fought a war on their own soil? I think it was the American Civil War....where Americans killed their own brothers and relatives......over what? Political differences. What side would Christ have taken? Where does “love your enemies” ever come to mind? (Matt 5:43-44)
Is another civil war brewing? What is civil about it? Can no one see what the problem is...and always has been?

All that is transpiring in the world today was prophesied....about 2,500 years ago by the prophet Daniel....the “King of the North” engaging with the “King of the South”, in a pushing and shoving competition for world domination and supremacy in this “time of the end”. These are not individual kings, but blocks of nations allied as one entity against each other....better known today as the “East” and “West”....But are the same enemies with the same animosity.

All will come to grief when God steps in to put a stop to the rot, and replace flawed and corrupt human governments with his Kingdom, in the hands of his appointed King....Jesus Christ.
In a world ruled by the devil, there are no “good guys”...there are only the lesser of two evils.....equally bloodguilty in God’s eyes. (Isa 1:15)

The wars of the nations are not sanctioned by God and therefore are not approved by him, even though he permits them for his own reasons....to show the futility of war....and the inadequacy of human rulers to bring about any real and lasting change for the better.

What has history taught us? Very little apparently....

 

[bdavidc]

I agree.


We bomb countries all the time that have never attacked us. That's an act of war.


It's four billion dollars that could instead go towards America and helping Americans.

You are acting like four billion dollars is the reason America is struggling. It is not. Scripture says the real problem in any nation is when people abandon righteousness ~Proverbs 14:34. Our crisis did not come from supporting an ally. It came from leaders who poured money into sin, confusion, and policies that oppose God’s design ~Isaiah 5:20.

If you want to talk about helping Americans, then be honest about what drains this country. We spend far more funding abortion, promoting gender ideology, and propping up programs that mock what God calls good ~Genesis 1:27, ~Exodus 20:13, ~Romans 1:26 through 27. That is where the real destruction has come from.

Four billion dollars to Israel is not what is breaking America. The Bible shows that nations fall when they reject God, not when they stand with an ally. So if we are going to talk about spending, let’s aim at the real source of the rot, not a convenient target.

 

[Riven]

I'm surprised

Why?

All the time?
Please list those countries and the dates.

Iraq - 2003.
Iran - 2025.
Somalia - 2025.
Vietnam - 1965.
Syria - ongoing.

Israel are our allies.
And as Americans know, billions of dollars support citizens domestically too.

I'm not convinced that Israel is an ally. I think they're using the United States as a piggy bank to fund their wars and their ambitions to expand Israeli territory.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Why?


Iraq - 2003.

Wrong. You don't know what you're talking about.

Iran - 2025.

That's laughable.Seriously.

Somalia - 2025.

That happened before you were born. 1993 Battle of Mogadishu.

Vietnam - 1965.

That was to stop the domino theory so to stop the spread of communism.

Syria - ongoing.

To counter ISIS and Irans influence against America and freedom.

So much for your claim of, all the time.

Look, I realize your animus for America is all consuming. To the point you,and those like you, spew anti-America vitriol and despise Trump.
You all sound like fools.

You assail Christians who love our country and follow the scriptures with respect to realizing God ordained our leaders.

That's because in truth none of that matters to you and your sorry compatriots.
Hatred is your downfall. All of you.

See,claiming to know Christ while vomiting vitriol from the Devil is obscene.

And claiming to be American while condemning the country and it's leadership, while rooting for our enemies,is treason.

I'm not convinced that Israel is an ally. I think they're using the United States as a piggy bank to fund their wars and their ambitions to expand Israeli territory.

Israel haters are a damned shame.

 

[Triumph1300]

All will come to grief when God steps in to put a stop to the rot...

Inviting a terrorist to the US and doing personal business with him while he's in office should be grounds for impeachment. The prez is selling out the USA.

But, Trump being his usual self towards women:"Hey be Quiet, Piggy, you damn fake news reporter"!
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BTW some of you folks need to read the Bonhoffer Biography.
You might learn something.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

How 3 presidents announced the deaths of terrorist leaders and what it says about them​

August 5, 2022

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/05/1115413454/biden-trump-obama-speeches-terrorist-leaders

 

[Riven]

Wrong. You don't know what you're talking about.

When did Saddam Hussein attack the United States?

That happened before you were born. 1993 Battle of Mogadishu.

I was born in 1988.

That was to stop the domino theory so to stop the spread of communism.

But Vietnam never attacked the United States before the US invaded.

And claiming to be American while condemning the country and it's leadership, while rooting for our enemies,is treason.

I love America. But I think the government no longer represents the interests of the American people.

Israel haters are a damned shame.

I don't hate Israel. I hate how much influence it has over American politicians that are elected to represent us. And I hate how it's made the United States complicit in an ethnic cleansing. The US will never truly be able to lecture other nations on morality without getting egg on their face.

 

[TLHKAJ]

But even Christians have their limits on supporting genocide it would seem. Would Jesus be cool with 20,000 children being systemically exterminated for the ambitious idea of "Greater Israel"? I have my doubts.

You are correct. Jesus does not approve of this genocide.

Matthew 18:10
“Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.”

Matthew 19:14
“But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”

 

[Matthias]

Come, lord Jesus.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

When did Saddam Hussein attack the United States?

Oh,I get it. We can only defend against an enemy when they're at our shores.

Rather than parrot Leftist propaganda you should learn a bit of history.

I was born in 1988.

You were five.

But Vietnam never attacked the United States before the US invaded.

Uh huh.

I love America.

There's no evidence of that.

But I think the government no longer represents the interests of the American people.

May the government never stand with apathetic cowards.

I don't hate Israel.

Sure you do. That's why you repeat the lies of Hamas.

I hate how much influence it has over American politicians that are elected to represent us. And I hate how it's made the United States complicit in an ethnic cleansing. The US will never truly be able to lecture other nations on morality without getting egg on their face.

You asked if Jesus would approve the slaughter of 20,000 Palestinian children?

Too bad you don't care about Israeli children.

Over 20,000 Israeli kids classified as victims of terror since Oct. 7 attack, report finds

A Report by the Israel National Council for the Child Found That 56 Israeli Children Were Murdered – Including Kfir and Ariel Bibas, Who Were Killed by Hamas While in Captivity – and That Almost 3,000 Children Were Left Physically or Emotionally Disabled

www.haaretz.com

And by the way, Jesus is God.

Borrow a Bible,look on a Bible website.
Jesus (God) drowned countless babies and children in the flood.

He killed the first born babies of every Egyptian household.

He had his Hebrew army murder men,women and children. Even cutting babies from the womb.

So,would Jesus approve killing Hamas terrorists who slaughtered Israeli children on October 7th, and beheaded babies in their crib or set them afire when they were alive?
Yes!

Hamas kills their own people. They hide themselves among Palestinians do that everyone dies when Israel strikes back.

Oh,I know,Israel is the "occupier," and deserve what they get. Right?

You defend Hamas,condemn Israel, condemn America,defend terrorist states.

You're an Agnostic in a Christian forum.

You're not fooling anyone.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

You are correct. Jesus does not approve of this genocide.

Really? When he drowned the whole world save for Noah and his family?


Do you have any impact for the Israeli children slaughtered by Hamas?
Babies beheaded in their cribs,burned alive.

Or do you only stand with Satanic Anti-Israel Muslim terrorists?

Over 20,000 Israeli kids classified as victims of terror since Oct. 7 attack, report finds

A Report by the Israel National Council for the Child Found That 56 Israeli Children Were Murdered – Including Kfir and Ariel Bibas, Who Were Killed by Hamas While in Captivity – and That Almost 3,000 Children Were Left Physically or Emotionally Disabled

www.haaretz.com

 

[TLHKAJ]

Really? When he drowned the whole world save for Noah and his family?

Read the scriptures. Noah was perfect in his generations. God flooded the earth because of the corrupt seed that filled the earth. Leave life and death up to God who gives and takes away.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Do you have any impact for the Israeli children slaughtered by Hamas?
Babies beheaded in their cribs,burned alive.

God looks on murder of Israeli children the same way. None are more valuable than the other. Children are close to God's heart.

 

[Riven]

Oh,I get it. We can only defend against an enemy when they're at our shores.

No. But if you attack a nation that's never attacked you and has no plans to attack you, that makes you the aggressor.

You were five.

Yeah. Good times.

Sure you do. That's why you repeat the lies of Hamas.

I don't. I'm saying that Israel is either not interested in defeating Hamas, or they're strategic objectives lie elsewhere.

You asked if Jesus would approve the slaughter of 20,000 Palestinian children?

Too bad you don't care about Israeli children.

I do, and I think most people do. Like most people, I was horrified at what happened on October 7th. I supported Israel in striking back until it became clear that they were more interested in using the tragedy to further their plans for a greater Israel.

And by the way, Jesus is God.

Borrow a Bible,look on a Bible website.
Jesus (God) drowned countless babies and children in the flood.

He killed the first born babies of every Egyptian household.

He had his Hebrew army murder men,women and children. Even cutting babies from the womb.

So,would Jesus approve killing Hamas terrorists who slaughtered Israeli children on October 7th, and beheaded babies in their crib or set them afire when they were alive?
Yes!

I think you make a compelling argument. But what if he doesn't support it and you do? How will you answer for that on judgment day?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Read the scriptures. Noah was perfect in his generations. God flooded the earth because of the corrupt seed that filled the earth.

I'm aware.

Leave life and death up to God who gives and takes away.

Well,then if one believed that ,they'd not condemn the slaughter of Palestinian terrorists .Or,condemn Israel for defending herself against those who want to see her wiped from the face of the Earth.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

No. But if you attack a nation that's never attacked you and has no plans to attack you, that makes you the aggressor.

You really should study history.

Yeah. Good times.

I don't. I'm saying that Israel is either not interested in defeating Hamas, or they're strategic objectives lie elsewhere.

Which is it? You condemn Israel for defending itself. Who could blame them for wanting to annihilate an enemy that wants every Jew on Earth dead.

I do, and I think most people do. Like most people, I was horrified at what happened on October 7th. I supported Israel in striking back until it became clear that they were more interested in using the tragedy to further their plans for a greater Israel.

You prefer a lesser Israel?

I think you make a compelling argument. But what if he doesn't support it and you do? How will you answer for that on judgment day?

If he didn't support it,Hamas would have won.