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Yes, great news! When the Supreme Creator shallows up every created being into His Kingdom and He is All in All. When His will is carried out, that none perish and everyone comes to repentance and is reconciled to their Creator and fulfills their purpose in the never ending ages to come.
Few will find the road that leads off into life= in Gods kingdom. Because over 99% are mislead by false doctrines.( Luke 17:26 and on
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Few will find the road that leads off into life= in Gods kingdom. Because over 99% are mislead by false doctrines.( Luke 17:26 and on
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Yes, the majority will be as Jesus said, 'goats' who will be judged and sentenced to the lake of fire while the smaller number of 'sheep' will be rewarded and will reign in Jesus's kingdom as kings and priests according to what John heard.

The goats serving time in the lake of fire with the false prophet and Antichrist along with Satan and his angels WILL in a future age, repent and be reconciled to their Creator. Then comes something I definitely didn't see coming yet I had been praying for for years.
 

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Taken said:
"No.
Pay attention to what WAS the OLD Testament from the Beginning…
(ALL departed living souls WENT to HELL,"

Where does the Bible say that???????

"TO the introduction of…
A NEW Better Testament.
After Jesus’ departed living soul went to Hell….AND Left…"

Again! Where does it say Jesus went to Hell?????

Are you a Copeland victim?
 

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Yes, the majority will be as Jesus said, 'goats' who will be judged and sentenced to the lake of fire while the smaller number of 'sheep' will be rewarded and will reign in Jesus's kingdom as kings and priests according to what John heard.

The goats serving time in the lake of fire with the false prophet and Antichrist along with Satan and his angels WILL in a future age, repent and be reconciled to their Creator. Then comes something I definitely didn't see coming yet I had been praying for for years.
Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) will reign on thrones=144,000 bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3)--The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold, but will become one flock in Gods kingdom on Earth.
 

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Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) will reign on thrones=144,000 bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3)--The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold, but will become one flock in Gods kingdom on Earth.
Do you need permission from the WatchTower to quote Scriptures? It's quite easy for Bible believers.
 

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Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) will reign on thrones=144,000 bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3)--The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold, but will become one flock in Gods kingdom on Earth.
Who said that what Jesus refered to as the little flock are the same as what John heard are the 144000. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

And who said the great crowd John saw are the other flock Jesus refered to?
 

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Only the little flock( Luke 12:32) will reign on thrones=144,000 bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3)--The great crowd( Rev 7:9) no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold, but will become one flock in Gods kingdom on Earth.
Is John refering to the same people in Rev 7:9 that he had already mentioned in chapter 5?

Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

These were not children (tribes) of Jacob which John named as 12,000 from each individual tribe. Jesus redeems people from every tribe to reign as kings and priests on the earth.
 

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Do you need permission from the WatchTower to quote Scriptures? It's quite easy for Bible believers.
Do you need permission to show God you care enough to look up scriptures?
 

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Who said that what Jesus refered to as the little flock are the same as what John heard are the 144000. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

And who said the great crowd John saw are the other flock Jesus refered to?
ALL who know God knows its truth.
 

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Is John refering to the same people in Rev 7:9 that he had already mentioned in chapter 5?

Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

These were not children (tribes) of Jacob which John named as 12,000 from each individual tribe. Jesus redeems people from every tribe to reign as kings and priests on the earth.
No rev 7:9 isnt about the little flock--The little flock is numbered=144,000--The great crowd no man can number. 1+1--144,000= the little flock.
 

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Do you need permission to show God you care enough to look up scriptures?
I look them up every day. That's why I can quote them. LOTS of them! That's why I know Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER! You should read it some time.
 

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No rev 7:9 isnt about the little flock--The little flock is numbered=144,000--The great crowd no man can number. 1+1--144,000= the little flock.
I wasn't refering to the little flock. Nor the 144,000. But what John' saw Rev 7:9 and heard 5:9&10.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The paradise of God will be established by the 144,000 Jews and the accompanying redeemed humans from every tribe on this planet. When the lion and the Lamb hang out together. When humans who die at only 100 it will be considered there's something wrong with them.
 

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I wasn't refering to the little flock. Nor the 144,000. But what John' saw Rev 7:9 and heard 5:9&10.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The paradise of God will be established by the 144,000 Jews and the accompanying redeemed humans from every tribe on this planet. When the lion and the Lamb hang out together. When humans who die at only 100 it will be considered there's something wrong with them.
And the 144000 children of Jacob who are chosen out to follow the Lamb will be joined by these kings and priests of the same Lamb, the King of us kings, and Great High Priest of us priests.
 

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I look them up every day. That's why I can quote them. LOTS of them! That's why I know Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER! You should read it some time.
That is a good quality to have reading the bible. The problem is that you use altered translation that misleads into darkness. Its why their are hundreds of different religions claiming to be Christian and one that uses a translation that supports Gods will. One path is the broad and spacious path, the other is the narrow gate.
 

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I wasn't refering to the little flock. Nor the 144,000. But what John' saw Rev 7:9 and heard 5:9&10.

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

The paradise of God will be established by the 144,000 Jews and the accompanying redeemed humans from every tribe on this planet. When the lion and the Lamb hang out together. When humans who die at only 100 it will be considered there's something wrong with them.
Rev 5:9 is about the little flock. Only these are bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3) 144,000
The great crowd will stand before Gods throne on EARTH.( Matt 5:5, Psalm 37:9,11,29)- Gods throne= Gods kingdom rule over Earth and heaven by 100% of the occupants giving support to Gods kingdom rule. That is the new heavens and new Earth.( Rev 21:1)
 

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That is a good quality to have reading the bible. The problem is that you use altered translation that misleads into darkness. Its why their are hundreds of different religions claiming to be Christian and one that uses a translation that supports Gods will. One path is the broad and spacious path, the other is the narrow gate.
All of our English translations say you are WRONG! Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER! RUN from Kingdom Hall while you can.

Matthew 13:49-50
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,
50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
 

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Rev 5:9 is about the little flock. Only these are bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3) 144,000
The great crowd will stand before Gods throne on EARTH.( Matt 5:5, Psalm 37:9,11,29)- Gods throne= Gods kingdom rule over Earth and heaven by 100% of the occupants giving support to Gods kingdom rule. That is the new heavens and new Earth.( Rev 21:1)
Again, who first made this connection? Why did they join these totally separate dots?
Dot 1 - Jesus's statement to this huge gathering of people.
Dot 2 - John's record naming 12 specific tribes x 12,000 = 144,000.

Dot 1 - Luk 12:1 In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all...

So are you saying that the innumerable multitude of people
which Jesus addressed as 'little flock' that day numbered 144,000 and they were made up of 12,000 people from the 12 tribes of Israel ?
 

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Rev 5:9 is about the little flock. Only these are bought from the Earth( Rev 14:3) 144,000
Rev 14 the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

So that crowd Jesus addressed that day, who He called 'little flock' were all virgin males. But Peter was present. He was married. Was he a virgin? Maybe he abstained from having sex with his wife and remained a virgin to qualify as one of the 144000. Is this what you believe?
 

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Rev 14 the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

So that crowd Jesus addressed that day, who He called 'little flock' were all virgin males. But Peter was present. He was married. Was he a virgin? Maybe he abstained from having sex with his wife and remained a virgin to qualify as one of the 144000. Is this what you believe?
Actually it means virgins to false religions. In the writings about( 2 Chron) King Jehosaphat ,It teaches he was a good king, but he failed to take down the high places( where all the false god worship stuff occurred.) God referred to his servants serving false gods as immoral intercourse. As with a woman. Peter is one of the 144,000, he was married, but always served the true God= a single being God=YHVH(Jehovah) while at the Israelite religion, then for Jesus' new religion. Another proof virgins means to false religions, or false gods.
 

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Actually it means virgins to false religions. In the writings about( 2 Chron) King Jehosaphat ,It teaches he was a good king, but he failed to take down the high places( where all the false god worship stuff occurred.) God referred to his servants serving false gods as immoral intercourse. As with a woman. Peter is one of the 144,000, he was married, but always served the true God= a single being God=YHVH(Jehovah) while at the Israelite religion, then for Jesus' new religion. Another proof virgins means to false religions, or false gods.
Again you pull the writings of one person way out of its context and try to pin that tail on the donkey while blindfolded to what end? To fit in with someone's agenda or belief system. Did John tell you this is what he was refering to? More importantly did God tell you directly this is what He meant. I'm not saying that God can't supernaturally help a person pin one truth to another truth. But in more cases than not its a false doctrine or teaching that is passed on and passed down from generation to generation. Believed but not personally confirmed by the Spirit of Truth Who lives in them. If in fact He is living in them.