Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

[Grailhunter]

Yes,,,Yahweh did create the world...
through Jesus.

John 1:3
3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing * came into being that has come into being.


Colossians 1:16
16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities -all things have been created through Him and for Him.

I am God and there is no one else like me.

 

[GodsGrace]

God is a title of a Divine being.

God describes a type of being.

A title would be:

EL SHADDAI - GOD IS ALMIGHTY
ADONAI - MASTER
JEHOVAH-JIRA - THE LORD WILL PROVIDE
and many more.

 

[GodsGrace]

I am God and there is no one else like me.

This is true.

There is only one God.
There is no one else like HIm.

 

[Grailhunter]

God describes a type of being.

A title would be:

EL SHADDAI - GOD IS ALMIGHTY
ADONAI - MASTER
JEHOVAH-JIRA - THE LORD WILL PROVIDE
and many more.

No J's in the scriptures.
We will never agree on this because I side with Yahweh on this one.
Yeshua is a God and the Messiah and our Savior...But Yahweh is God Almighty Supreme creator of all things and the Father of Yeshua.

 

[Wrangler]

So who do YOU believe Jesus is?

I believe Jesus is precisely what Scripture says repeatedly, a man among the people of Israel anointed by his God.

The title “Christ” means anointed, not God.

Do you worship Him?

No. I only worship his God. Jesus has a God. Jesus’ God is the only true God of the Bible.

 

[Wrangler]

Who was manifested in the flesh, the Father or the Son?

I think it’s better to stick to the OP than get mired in trivial questions as you pose.

If my cousin is manifested in his drivers license, that does not mean his drivers license is my cousin. Such desperate arguments as this are a means for trinitarians to distract from the fact that there is no trinity statement in the Bible. Its absence is telling.

Can you admit there is no trinitarian statement in the Bible?

 

[GodsGrace]

No J's in the scriptures.
We will never agree on this because I side with Yahweh on this one.
Yeshua is a God and the Messiah and our Savior...But Yahweh is God Almighty Supreme creator of all things and the Father of Yeshua.

No J's in the scripture?
Maybe YOU know Hebrew,,,
but I do NOT.
So I always use English when speaking about the bibel.

I listed some titles...
they're a title...in any language.

 

[GodsGrace]

I believe Jesus is precisely what Scripture says repeatedly, a man among the people of Israel anointed by his God.

The title “Christ” means anointed, not God.


No. I only worship his God. Jesus has a God. Jesus’ God is the only true God of the Bible.

Happy to hear that you do not worship a man.

Guess all we Christians will be going to hell for worshipping a mere man instead of the one true God.

However, you should remove the word Christian from under your avatar.

In order to be defined as Christian a person MUST believe that Jesus is God.

 

[Grailhunter]

No J's in the scripture?
Maybe YOU know Hebrew,,,
but I do NOT.
So I always use English when speaking about the bibel.

I listed some titles...
they're a title...in any language.

I have explained this ten ways to Sunday.
The Y's in the Hebrew were replaced with J's.
If you look in the Strong's at words like Job and Josuha and Jacob and Jericho and look at how they are pronounced, you will see.

 

[Wrangler]

God describes a type of being.

A title would be:

EL SHADDAI - GOD IS ALMIGHTY
ADONAI - MASTER
JEHOVAH-JIRA - THE LORD WILL PROVIDE
and many more.

Name. Title. Not equal.

 

[GodsGrace]

Name. Title. Not equal.

??

GOD is a type of being.
YAHWEH is His name.
EL SHADDAI is a title.

 

[GodsGrace]

I have explained this ten ways to Sunday.
The Y's in the Hebrew were replaced with J's.
If you look in the Strong's at words like Job and Josuha and Jacob and Jericho and look at how they are pronounced, you will see.

What difference does it make?
No difference to the meaning.

 

[Grailhunter]

What difference does it make?
No difference to the meaning.

As a Theologian I know words mean things.
The names of the Gods are important....Yahweh and Yeshua
Accuracy is important so why not call those in the Bible by their correct names....Miriam Yob and Yacob
I hope that those that messed with Yahweh's name go to Hell. 6,800 modification to the scriptures, an offense worthy of Hell.

 

[GodsGrace]

As a Theologian I know words mean things.
The names of the Gods are important....Yahweh and Yeshua
Accuracy is important so why not call those in the Bible by their correct names....Miriam Yob and Yacob
I hope that those that messed with Yahweh's name go to Hell. 6,800 modification to the scriptures, an offense worthy of Hell.

So do you say Firenze or do you say Florence?
It's the same place GH.

 

[amigo de christo]

This is true.

There is only one God.
There is no one else like HIm.

and MY GLORY i shall not give to another .
Have you ever wondered why even in revelation
JESUS uses the same langauge
When saying I AM ALPHA and OMEGA , the first and the last .
May i simply tell us all , THIS IS NOT BLAPSHEMY on HIS PART .
that indeed GOD IS HIS WORD . That indeed JESUS IS VERY ESSENCE OF GOD .
That in no way is there a competention between THE GOD and HIS WORD , HIS SPIRIT .
For the Spirit of GOD is the one self same spirit OF CHRIST .
But i darn sure seem to notice a lot of folks acting as though
somehow GOD created THE WORD . No , oh no my friends .
GOD did not create THE WORD
HE SIMPLY S POKE and that life essence came forth of HIM .
LET there be light , and THERE WAS LIGHT .
Acting LIKE GOD created the WORD , is like saying HE created HIMSELF . NO sir and no mams .
In the beinning was THE WORD and the WORD was WITH GOD and THE WORD is G OD .
That is not a lie . ITS THE TRUTH . all things were created BY HIM . So i suggest some R
some E , some s pect TO BE GIVEN TO T HE LORD . i have grown weary watching
many try and mold another jesus , another god . Lets stick with what the bible says . Now on those feet
ITS TIME to contend for the true faith . The harlot of all harlots has poured her ecumenical cup of fornication
upon the world and even much of chrsitendom drinketh from it . Not gonna bode well ON THE DAY OF THE LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

I have explained this ten ways to Sunday.
The Y's in the Hebrew were replaced with J's.
If you look in the Strong's at words like Job and Josuha and Jacob and Jericho and look at how they are pronounced, you will see.

Well on that you did say correctly . The Y was replaced with the J .
I have myself studied our english langauge from its ruinc form
to when it was given the latin alphabet .
There was NO J , not at the first .
Enlish did stem from german . that too is a fact .
Have you ever noticed THE SOUND of the german J . IT MAKES THE Y SOUND . OH but it do .

 

[Wrangler]

GOD is a type of being.
YAHWEH is His name.

Agreed. God’s name is YHWH - not Jesus.

 

[Wrangler]

The problem here is that you do NOT believe that Jesus is God.

This is Circular. Can you admit there is no trinitarian dogma verse in Scripture?

You don’t see the problem with your IDOL.

 

[Wrangler]

This thread is about what ALLOWS one to be DEFINED as CHRISTIAN.

What do the words of God say? Rom 10:9
So you will be saved, if you honestly say, “Jesus is Lord,” and if you believe with all your heart that God raised him from death.

You are falsely equating the trinitarian IDOL with believing Jesus is a man anointed - by God - to be lord of heaven and Earth, where this man was raised from the dead by God.

 

[Wrangler]

In order to be defined as Christian a person MUST believe that Jesus is God.

You keep repeating a requirement that contradicts Scripture. This is why you cannot admit there is no trinitarian verse in all of Scripture.

I am a Christian, a Unitarian Christian, who accepts Jesus as my lord and savior. Can you at least admit that Jesus has a God?