How many former Catholics are here?

[amigo de christo]

i love your post here except for the error

Crystal CLEAR from Moses = gathering food on saturday sabbath is SIN = thus why Moses commanded they gather twice as much on Friday
EATING is NOT

JESUS absolutely broke the the because His Law of Love is HIGHER then the OT law of saturday sabbath = Matt 12:1-8
TODAY, i drove my truck to pray and GATHER Bagels for breakfast = i am FREE from the OT law for i am in CHRIST
HalleluYAH

So also, when we were children, we were enslaved under the basic principlesa of the world. 4But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those under the law, that we might receive our adoption as sons.
6And because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!”
7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, you are also an heir through God.

HalleluYAH

this giveth power to hyper grace and even unto the lie my friend .
I know you dont realize this .
OH david it giveth power to even the rainbow of all that is unholy .
But david in the law it is written that man shall not lie with man .
Do you realize that which you do , giveth power to the sinners .
STICK TO preaching meats drinks and days pertains to ONES conscious .
So now if a man wants to lie with a man , IS IT ALL of a sudden , IAM FREE from the OT LAW for i am in Christ .
STICK to meats , drinks and days . Let each simply be persuaded in his own mind about meats , drinks and days .
IF we go down this road , it will forever dominate our soul . PULL out of it .
JESUS did not break the law . HE fullfilled it .
IT was the jews accusing him of doing so THAT ACTUALLY BROKE IT , DID NOT EVEN HONOR the sabbath .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Prove it.

The fact that Jesus not only DIDN'T teach Sola Scriptura - He declared that the Church was our final earthly Authority (Matt.16:18-19, Matt. 18:15:18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).
SS is a completely man-made doctrine - NOT a Biblical truth.

There's your proof . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

Why do I have to explain that? The Church has already taught them that rituals won't save them.

You know what you call a Catholic who makes up hius OWN doctries?
A Protestant . . .

Then every catholic leader IS A PROTESTANT . LOL . I SEEN the things they added in
and even from way way way back .
BIBLE TIME my friend . BIBLE and TIME . TIME to learn BIBLE
and to learn for your own self .
OR remain as does a jw , or a protestant , or a RCC
GLUED TO THE DOCTRINES of men gone wrong .
You do realize they all have that in common . A deciever
decieves . And bud the protesetant realm from top to bottom is swollen to the gills with deceivers .
AND I darn sure dont have to remind us all GET out OF THE RCC .
ITs a madhouse . i tell ya , TIS a madhouse of delusion all over the entire realm of chrsitendom .
There is almost now NO CHURCH setting THIS DELUSION has not infiltrated .
Sadly you and others will remain on yalls ecumenical so called love train .
BUT ON THE DAY IT WRECKS , DONT come blaming me . I warned you all relentlessy
TO get far from any house or place attached in any way to this ecumenical cup . SO I DID my part .

 

[David in NJ]

David ..............................
oh my near and my dear friend , you give much POWER to the SDA
when you say as you say . People watching all the time my friend .
THE LOVE OF GOD does not and would never trangress the
law . JESUS did not BREAK the law .
Nor trangress the sabbath , NOR would his love have broken it .
He did not trangress , HE simply fullfilled . And notice WHEN DAVID was IN what ...............
IN NEED . the man was starving and so were his people under him , THEY NEEDED FOOD .
Thus he was allowed to eat of the shew bread . NOT JUST for any ol reason . NO but because
THEY were IN DIRE need . Jesus did not break nor trangress in any way the original covenant
Given by GOD and MOSES . HE simply fullfilled it . You give power to the sda without realizing it .
And we sure do not want to do that . Just remind as did paul
Let no man judge you in meats , drinks and days . Do not add too by saying JESUS broke , trangressed the law .
To break the law IS TRANGRESSION of the law .

Brother, please look at JESUS exact words here for HE says that it is LAWFUL before GOD to break the OT law of Moses so that the Will of GOD be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

JESUS broke the "letter of the law" in doing so HE fulfilled the SPIRIT/Intent of GOD's LAW = which is to Obey His Will and Love your neighbor as yourself.

My precious brethren on here = i am NOT advocating lawlessness - Absolutely Not !!!
The FATHER is demonstrating the True Intent of His Law which is in CHRIST.

PLEASE READ carefully and let me know if you SEE - Matthew ch12

1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!”

3But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane/BREAK the Sabbath, and are blameless?
6Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple.
7But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.

8For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue. 10And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—that they might accuse Him.

11Then He said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?
12Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep?
Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
13Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other.
14Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

KAPISH my brothers and sisters in Christ = especially @Brakelite and @BarneyFife

 

[amigo de christo]

Brother, please look at JESUS exact words here for HE says that it is LAWFUL before GOD to break the OT law of Moses so that the Will of GOD be done on earth as it is in Heaven.

JESUS broke the "letter of the law" in doing so HE fulfilled the SPIRIT/Intent of GOD's LAW = which is to Obey His Will and Love your neighbor as yourself.

My precious brethren on here = i am NOT advocating lawlessness - Absolutely Not !!!
The FATHER is demonstrating the True Intent of His Law which is in CHRIST.

PLEASE READ carefully and let me know if you SEE - Matthew ch12

1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck heads of grain and to eat. 2And when the Pharisees saw it, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath!”

3But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, he and those who were with him: 4how he entered the house of God and ate the showbread which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? 5Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane/BREAK the Sabbath, and are blameless?
6Yet I say to you that in this place there is One greater than the temple.
7But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.

8For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue. 10And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”—that they might accuse Him.

11Then He said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?
12Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep?
Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
13Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other.
14Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.

KAPISH my brothers and sister sin Christ

as long as you know and are not saying that JESUS trangressed . THEN yes i do agree my friend .
Which i dont think you are saying JESUS trangressed . YES . then for sure what you wrote is true my friend .
I got it stuck in my head that when you said to break meant trangress .
W hich now i see you did not mean that at all . So yes i do a gree with this .
The only thing i would change is your mistype . of SIN christ . you meant to say IN CHRIST . lol . you said sin christ .

 

[amigo de christo]

The fact that Jesus not only DIDN'T teach Sola Scriptura - He declared that the Church was our final earthly Authority (Matt.16:18-19, Matt. 18:15:18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).
SS is a completely man-made doctrine - NOT a Biblical truth.

There's your proof . . .

you made a good statement when you asked do you know what you call a catholic that makes
up his own doctrine .
I would only add , THE POPES . cause i seen what they did .

 

[David in NJ]

as long as you know and are not saying that JESUS trangressed . THEN yes i do agree my friend .
Which i dont think you are saying JESUS trangressed . YES . then for sure what you wrote is true my friend .
I got it stuck in my head that when you said to break meant trangress .
W hich now i see you did not mean that at all . So yes i do a gree with this .
The only thing i would change is your mistype . of SIN christ . you meant to say IN CHRIST . lol . you said sin christ .

JESUS never transgressed the Will of His FATHER in Heaven = John 5:17 , John 6:38 , John 8:29 = count to 3

#1 - But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”

#2 - For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

#3 - He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.

Remember what the Holy Spirit Said thru Joshua who led them into the promised land?
"Choose you this day whom you will serve"

JESUS is leading us into His Promised Land ABOVE and is Saying to the Jews and to us:

Choose whom you will serve = the OT law - or - the LORD of the Sabbath

@Brakelite @BarneyFife

 

[amigo de christo]

JESUS never transgressed the Will of His FATHER in Heaven = John 5:17 , John 6:38 , John 8:29 = count to 3

#1 - But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”

#2 - For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

#3 - He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.

Remember what the Holy Spirit Said thru Joshua who led them into the promised land?
"Choose you this day whom you will serve"

JESUS is leading us into His Promised Land ABOVE and is Saying to the Jews and to us:

Choose whom you will serve = the OT law - or - the LORD of the Sabbath

@Brakelite @BarneyFife

A simple way to sum this up would be
HOW can any one be justified . A , by the law , or B , ONLY BY JESUS THE CHRIST .
and the answer is ONLY BY JESUS THE CHRIST .
but here is a trivia question for you my friend . One i am sure you can easily answer .
BUT IS JESUS THE MINSTIR OF SIN , OR THE FREER FROM SIN .
So lets never t hink JESUS gonna hold a certain rainbow or honor any sin . HE came to set us free FROM SIN
not to feel free TO SIN . AS I AM SURE YOU DO A GREE my friend . MANY use the name of JESUS
as a license to SIN . And we both know THAT AINT JESUS they follow or even know or love .

 

[David in NJ]

A simple way to sum this up would be
HOW can any one be justified . A , by the law , or B , ONLY BY JESUS THE CHRIST .
and the answer is ONLY BY JESUS THE CHRIST .
but here is a trivia question for you my friend . One i am sure you can easily answer .
BUT IS JESUS THE MINSTIR OF SIN , OR THE FREER FROM SIN .
So lets never t hink JESUS gonna hold a certain rainbow or honor any sin . HE came to set us free FROM SIN
not to feel free TO SIN . AS I AM SURE YOU DO A GREE my friend . MANY use the name of JESUS
as a license to SIN . And we both know THAT AINT JESUS they follow or even know or love .

BUT IS JESUS THE MINSTIR OF SIN , OR THE FREER FROM SIN .

Allow me to answer this by the Holy Spirit of Truth

So also, when we were children, we were enslaved under the basic principlesa of the world. 4But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
5to redeem those under the law, that we might receive our adoption as sons.
6And because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!”
7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, you are also an heir through God.


The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!

 

[amigo de christo]

The fact that Jesus not only DIDN'T teach Sola Scriptura - He declared that the Church was our final earthly Authority (Matt.16:18-19, Matt. 18:15:18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).
SS is a completely man-made doctrine - NOT a Biblical truth.

There's your proof . . .

Seeing all leaders must be tested and examined
its not the church that is the FINAL AUTHORITY .
IN fact JESUS TOLD US REAL clearly WHO THE FINAL AURTHORITY IS .
MY WORDS WILL BE YOUR JUDGE ON THE LAST DAY .
THUS any and all leaders of any and all churches MUST BE TESTED CONTINOUSLY
against HIS WORDS . BINGO . something the RCC and a lot of the prostestant realm SEEM NOT TO KNOW A T ALL .
HIS WORDS will be our judge . NOT the popes , not the protesetants
HIS WORDS . so BIBLE TIME my friend . OH bible time it is ...........

 

[amigo de christo]

Allow me to answer this by the Holy Spirit of Truth

So also, when we were children, we were enslaved under the basic principlesa of the world. 4But when the time had fully come, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law,
5to redeem those under the law, that we might receive our adoption as sons.
6And because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!”
7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, you are also an heir through God.


The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!

though i am sure you would agree its not the law itself that is evil
IT SIMPLY MAKES US AWARE OF WHAT IS SIN . the problem never was in the law
the problem was IN MAN and in his carnal flesh .
SEEING they rejected HIS LAW
HE said , I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT in those days .
AND GOD WILL BE IN US , HIS SPIRIT within us , the SPIRIT OF G OD , THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST
teaching us , guiding us , leading us into all things pleasing TO HIM .
But b eware the f lesh for it is a contrary monster my friend . The sheep heed the SPIRIT .

 

[David in NJ]

though i am sure you would agree its not the law itself that is evil
IT SIMPLY MAKES US AWARE OF WHAT IS SIN . the problem never was in the law
the problem was IN MAN and in his carnal flesh .
SEEING they rejected HIS LAW
HE said , I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT in those days .
AND GOD WILL BE IN US , HIS SPIRIT within us , the SPIRIT OF G OD , THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST
teaching us , guiding us , leading us into all things pleasing TO HIM .
But b eware the f lesh for it is a contrary monster my friend . The sheep heed the SPIRIT .

Now pray and dwell as to why God gave the law in the first place FULL well KNOWING that no man could Fulfill it.

 

[amigo de christo]

Now pray and dwell as to why God gave the law in the first place FULL well KNOWING that no man could Fulfill it.

it was simply added because of trangressions . UNTIL THE PROMISE CAME .
WHICH IS and WHICH WAS JESUS THE CHRIST .
It was added for to keep them safe , to keep them covered ,as pertains to the flesh an yway .
UNTIL HE who both THE LAW AND PROPHETS pointed too WOULD COME .
And by HIS OWN BLOOD would cleanse far more than just the outward flesh
BUT THE INWARD CONSCIOUS of man . creating a wh ole NEW MAN . GLORY GLORY GLORY TO THE RISEN LORD my friend

 

[amigo de christo]

Now pray and dwell as to why God gave the law in the first place FULL well KNOWING that no man could Fulfill it.

the law is also actually a school master
to lead one TO CHRIST .

 

[David in NJ]

the law is also actually a school master
to lead one TO CHRIST .

RIGHT

And the School Master has a whip called Death.

Choose you whom you will serve!!! = Graduation DAY = Run to JESUS from that School Master

 

[amigo de christo]

Now pray and dwell as to why God gave the law in the first place FULL well KNOWING that no man could Fulfill it.

and now a word .
SEEING that no man can be justified by the law
AND THAT ONLY BY FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST can one be justified from all things
BY WHICH ONE cannot be justified by the law ,
WHY THE HECK ARE THE CHURCHES BUYING INTO THE LIE of ecumenical interfaith
WHICH says ALL religoins serve the same GOD differently .
And h ollers , HEY the muslims beleive in moses , they cliam abraham
the jews claim abraham and moses
YEAH , BUT I CAN PROVE TO US ALL they do NOT .
HOW SO .
because WHO do they look too for to be justified
AND IF THEY ACTUALLY HEARD MOSES , had they actually beleived the law
moses , abraham or the prophets
GUESS WHO THEY WOULD HAVE BELEIVED . DRUM ROLL on four , .........................threee ...................
two ................................................one ..................JESUS THE CHRIST . FOR THEY ALL POINTED TOO and spoke OF HIM .
BINGO . t otal proof they do not even hear the law , hear the prophets , or hear moses or abraham .
THEY HAVE NOT FAITH IN GOD , THEY BELIEV E NOT ON HE whom GOD DID SEND .
AND HOW can one EVER TRULY BELIEVE EVEN GOD , IF THEY DENY AND BELEIVE NOT HIS TESTIMONY OF THE SON .
IF THEY BLEIEVE NOT JESUS THE CHRIST .
And the answer is , THEY DO NOT . they beleive ONLY A LIE . and NO LIE IS OF GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

RIGHT

And the School Master has a whip called Death.

Choose you whom you will serve!!! = Graduation DAY = Run to JESUS from that School Master

For all who do enter into and make a covenant with interfaith
have entered into a second death gurantee .
HE who believes NOT the testimony that GOD ALL MIGHTY gave of THE SON
is not serving GOD in a different way .
THEY ARE CALLING GOD A LIAR . And where do all who loved a lie end up , LAKE OF FIRE
and t hey call GOD , YES GOD a liar . JOHN wrote the truth .
WHO is a liar .
HE who denies that JESUS is the CHRIST , HE is ANTI CHRIST . does ANTI CHRIST
sound like someone who simply serves THE SAME GOD WE DO . DDNT THNK SO .
ITS ANTI CH RIST . SO now we know exactly from whence this ecumencial
CHRIST DENYING gathering for peace n safety CAME FROM . ANTI CHRIST .
THE MYSTERY OF INQUITY
The very thing the true apostels battled
SADLY THIS AGE RUNS TOO . ST RONG DELUSION my freind and though it hollers peace n safety
Like king ahab IT WILL bE their own destruction on the great and mighty day of the LORD .
I KNOW who the bible says COMES TO BRING peace on earth .
AND IT WASNT JESUS . HE did not come to bring peace on earth but rather division .
BUT ANTI CHRIST SURE DOES . and by PEACE shall destroy many .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Then every catholic leader IS A PROTESTANT . LOL . I SEEN the things they added in
and even from way way way back .

The Catholic Church is the original Tree from which Protestantism splintered - and continues to splinter . . .

BIBLE TIME my friend . BIBLE and TIME . TIME to learn BIBLE
and to learn for your own self .
OR remain as does a jw , or a protestant , or a RCC
GLUED TO THE DOCTRINES of men gone wrong .
You do realize they all have that in common . A deciever
decieves . And bud the protesetant realm from top to bottom is swollen to the gills with deceivers .
AND I darn sure dont have to remind us all GET out OF THE RCC .
ITs a madhouse . i tell ya , TIS a madhouse of delusion all over the entire realm of chrsitendom .
There is almost now NO CHURCH setting THIS DELUSION has not infiltrated .
Sadly you and others will remain on yalls ecumenical so called love train .
BUT ON THE DAY IT WRECKS , DONT come blaming me . I warned you all relentlessy
TO get far from any house or place attached in any way to this ecumenical cup . SO I DID my part .

And as I already educated you – the Bible doesn’t teach this. Jesus left us with a Church to lead and instruct – NOT a Book.

Everybody interpreting for themselves is precisely why we have tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering sects that ALL teach different doctrines. This is why YOU are so confused and espouse some of the nonsense you do . . .

I also taught you that there was NO agreed upon Canon of Scripture for the first 300 years of the Church. So, according to YOUR false doctrine – millions of born-again Christians, including ALL o0f the early Martyrs were condemned because there was NO Bible to read . . .

As to your disdain for Protestants – YOU yourself are a Protestant.
If you are a Baptized Christian and you’re neither Catholic nor Orthodox – you are a Protestant because you do NOT have an unbroken line of succession from the Apostles. Your aberrant beliefs were born during or aafter the 16th century . . .

Protestant
prot·es·tant ˈprä-tə-stənt
: a member of ANY of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truth
broadly : a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church

That's YOU in a nutshell . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Seeing all leaders must be tested and examined
its not the church that is the FINAL AUTHORITY .
IN fact JESUS TOLD US REAL clearly WHO THE FINAL AURTHORITY IS .
MY WORDS WILL BE YOUR JUDGE ON THE LAST DAY .
THUS any and all leaders of any and all churches MUST BE TESTED CONTINOUSLY
against HIS WORDS . BINGO . something the RCC and a lot of the prostestant realm SEEM NOT TO KNOW A T ALL .
HIS WORDS will be our judge . NOT the popes , not the protesetants
HIS WORDS . so BIBLE TIME my friend . OH bible time it is ...........

Okay, my Sola Scripturist friend . . .

- The BIBLE tells us that the Church is the Body of Christ and HE is the Head (Col. 1:18).

- The BIBLE tells us that Jesus claims that HE and the Church are ONE and the same (Acts 9:4-5).

- The BIBLE tells us that the Church is the pillar and foundation of TRUTH (1 Tim. 3:15).

- The BIBLE tells us that the Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).

- The BIBLE says that The Holy Spirit would guide the Church to ALL TRUTH (John 16:12-15).

- The Bible says that WHATEVER the Church looses or binds on earth will be loosed or bound in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16).

Jesus, the Head of Hia Church (Col. 1:8) gave His Church complete earthly Authority.

 

[David in NJ]

For all who do enter into and make a covenant with interfaith
have entered into a second death gurantee .
HE who believes NOT the testimony that GOD ALL MIGHTY gave of THE SON
is not serving GOD in a different way .
THEY ARE CALLING GOD A LIAR . And where do all who loved a lie end up , LAKE OF FIRE
and t hey call GOD , YES GOD a liar . JOHN wrote the truth .
WHO is a liar .
HE who denies that JESUS is the CHRIST , HE is ANTI CHRIST . does ANTI CHRIST
sound like someone who simply serves THE SAME GOD WE DO . DDNT THNK SO .
ITS ANTI CH RIST . SO now we know exactly from whence this ecumencial
CHRIST DENYING gathering for peace n safety CAME FROM . ANTI CHRIST .
THE MYSTERY OF INQUITY
The very thing the true apostels battled
SADLY THIS AGE RUNS TOO . ST RONG DELUSION my freind and though it hollers peace n safety
Like king ahab IT WILL bE their own destruction on the great and mighty day of the LORD .
I KNOW who the bible says COMES TO BRING peace on earth .
AND IT WASNT JESUS . HE did not come to bring peace on earth but rather division .
BUT ANTI CHRIST SURE DOES . and by PEACE shall destroy many .

Currently = Allah is the "god of fortresses" spoken by Daniel the OT prophet.

"Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain."

666 in order of History

6 - unrepentent Jews
6 - RCC along with all the protestant churches who join her = Gentiles
6 - Islam = mix of Jew and Egyptian

These three have been together to condemn and slaughter the saints of the Most High = as they already have been doing