Can States Secede from the US?

[Chihuahua]

Oops, I got the date wrong. Google AI has a nice summary:

The Texas Supreme Court hasn't ruled on secession recently, but the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark 1869 case, Texas v. White, decided that states cannot unilaterally secede, declaring the Union "perpetual" and secession unconstitutional, a precedent upheld in modern times by legal scholars and recent court refusals to hear new secession cases, like one in 2023. While some pro-secession groups argue for an implied right based on the Constitution's silence on withdrawal, the established legal consensus, rooted in Texas v. White, maintains that states lack the legal authority to leave the Union.

 

[Chihuahua]

What would be interesting is the five states thing. Texas was admitted with the understanding it could become five states. Is that still valid and would that not need congressional approval anyways? Oklahoma was to be admitted as two states, but Congress for political reasons wanted to restrict them to one state with two senators instead of two with four.

California and Texas are honestly kinda stupid. If they divided up, they'd have more power in the Senate and more freedom regionally.

Also, isn't it interesting that West Virginia seceded from Virginia at the start of the war and that's... okay.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

God is going to clean house!

No, the majority of what passes for "Christianity" here in the US is doctrines of demons so by default these "christians" are being led by the devil and they will get the devil's reward.

God cannot be mocked, we reap what we sow, sowing to the flesh reaps corruption and this is why islam will continue to gain more strength here in the US

This is what false doctrine brings forth

 

[maria878]

Secession is not legally supported under the US Constitution; the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional after the Civil War. Any state attempting it would face federal legal and potentially military opposition. The post-secession geopolitical fallout would be massive.

 

[Triumph1300]

Whatever, God is going to clean house.

Can't wait for THAT.
The sooner the better.

 

[Triumph1300]

No, the majority of what passes for "Christianity" here in the US is doctrines of demons so by default these "christians" are being led by the devil and they will get the devil's reward.

That's where "God's House cleaning" comes in.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Secession is not legally supported under the US Constitution; the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional after the Civil War. Any state attempting it would face federal legal and potentially military opposition. The post-secession geopolitical fallout would be massive.

Yeah well when the fed goes broke due to the dollar crashing - they won't be in much of a position to prevent states from leaving the union

 

[Jack]

No, the majority of what passes for "Christianity" here in the US is doctrines of demons so by default these "christians" are being led by the devil and they will get the devil's reward.

God cannot be mocked, we reap what we sow, sowing to the flesh reaps corruption and this is why islam will continue to gain more strength here in the US

This is what false doctrine brings forth

That's basically what I meant. Demons have filled most churches in America.

 

[Jack]

Can't wait for THAT.
The sooner the better.

It's not gonna be pretty.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

That's where "God's House cleaning" comes in.

He's not forcing them out, He's turning them over to a reprobate mind and those that want to follow after the reprobates will become reprobates themselves.

You seem to be suggesting the Lord is going to remove the tares now instead at the end as Jesus taught

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Any state that tries to succeed needs to orepare.

Yeah orepare is really important.

They need to import all the orepare that they can ya know

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Does making fun of the blind girl over a typo make you feel better somehow?

1 - I had no knowledge of anybody being blind.
2 - What does someone being blind have to do with anything?
2 - IF a blind person is going to engage others, they should learn how to use software that let's them know when a word is misspelled.

 

[Jack]

He's not forcing them out, He's turning them over to a reprobate mind and those that want to follow after the reprobates will become reprobates themselves.

You seem to be suggesting the Lord is going to remove the tares now instead at the end as Jesus taught

Many in the churches will be saved by rejecting the Mark of the Beast, beheading!

The US of Islam!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Many in the churches will be saved by rejecting the Mark of the Beast, beheading!

Nowhere in scripture do we see the Lord saying one can obtain salvation by getting body parts chopped of.

One must be saved before facing the threat of death

 

[Jack]

Nowhere in scripture do we see the Lord saying one can obtain salvation by getting body parts chopped of.

One must be saved before facing the threat of death

I think BILLIONS of humans in churches will receive a LAST opportunity to be saved.

Revelation 20:4 Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Getting one's head cut off does not automatically make one saved.

Jesus said few find the narrow path that leads to life so it's definitely NOT going to be billions.

The majority of people will end up in hell, many of whom had been born again but backslid

 

[Jack]

Getting one's head cut off does not automatically make one saved.

Jesus said few find the narrow path that leads to life so it's definitely NOT going to be billions.

The majority of people will end up in hell, many of whom had been born again but backslid

The thief on the cross had a 'last chance'. He was saved.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The thief on the cross had a 'last chance'. He was saved.

And he didn't get any body parts chopped off either.

Are you claiming Jesus lied???

Matthew 7:14
strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Everyone has plenty of opportunity to get saved during their lives so there is no guarantee of any one last chance since they've had so many opportunities

 

[Jack]

And he didn't get any body parts chopped off either.

He didn't have to.-

Are you claiming Jesus lied???

Matthew 7:14
strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Everyone has plenty of opportunity to get saved during their lives so there is no guarantee of any one last chance since they've had so many opportunities

So you don't believe in death bed salvation? I do.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

So you don't believe in death bed salvation? I do.

I'd like to see scripture where the Lord promises one last chance at the end of one's live after having rejected Him across an entire lifetime.

Romans 1:26-32 tells us God allows people to follow their sinful inclinations when they refuse to accept and live for Him and He turns them over to a reprobate mind.