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A follow-up to a previous topic:


Respondents had great difficulty in defining what the one gospel is.
Disagreeing with me that there were many gospels, they brought more gospels of their own.

There was no consensus about what the ONE gospel is.

This topic is to focus on "WHAT is the one gospel?"

The one gospel - What is it?
 
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In the previous topic I came to this conclusion:

"It occurs to me now that this may be the essence of the gospel message. (duh)
Turn to God. Which infers turning away from all else. When everything else has failed.

A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.
It's a decision made when one hits the bottom and has nowhere else to go but up."


Is there more?
In Acts chapter two Peter says:
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you,
in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
 

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In the previous topic I came to this conclusion:

"It occurs to me now that this may be the essence of the gospel message. (duh)
Turn to God. Which infers turning away from all else. When everything else has failed.

A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.
It's a decision made when one hits the bottom and has nowhere else to go but up."


Is there more?
In Acts chapter two Peter says:
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you,
in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins.
And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I keep coming back to the Damascus Road experience of Saul. (Paul)
An encounter with the living God.
 

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A follow-up to a previous topic:


Respondents had great difficulty in defining what the one gospel is.
You're the one struggling STV. Stop blaming everyone else.
Disagreeing with me that there were many gospels, they brought more gospels of their own.

There was no consensus about what the ONE gospel is.

This topic is to focus on "WHAT is the one gospel?"

The one gospel - What is it?
It's a choice of believing the Bible is God's Word or burning in Hell Forever as Jesus warned several times.

And you made your choice saying, "no wonder I don't trust the Bible"!
 
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The biblical term "the gospel is foolishness" came to mind. A search provided this.

The phrase "the gospel is foolishness to those perishing" refers to the idea that the message of the cross and salvation through Jesus Christ seems absurd or nonsensical to those who do not believe. However, for those who are being saved, it is recognized as the power of God.

Understanding the Message of the Cross​

The Perception of the Cross​

The message of the cross is often seen as foolishness by those who are perishing. This perspective is rooted in a rejection of the gospel, leading to a misunderstanding of its significance. For many, the idea of salvation through a crucified Christ appears absurd and illogical.

The Power of God for the Saved​

In contrast, for those who are being saved, the message of the cross represents the power of God. Believers understand that this act of sacrifice is central to their faith and offers hope and redemption. It signifies God's love and the means by which humanity can be reconciled with Him.

Biblical Context​

This concept is articulated in 1 Corinthians 1:18, which states that "the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." This division highlights the differing responses to the gospel based on one's spiritual state.

Conclusion​

The cross serves as a pivotal point in Christian belief, embodying both folly and power, depending on one's relationship with God. For believers, it is a source of strength and salvation, while for others, it remains a stumbling block.
 

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The biblical term "the gospel is foolishness" came to mind. A search provided this.

The phrase "the gospel is foolishness to those perishing" refers to the idea that the message of the cross and salvation through Jesus Christ seems absurd or nonsensical to those who do not believe. However, for those who are being saved, it is recognized as the power of God.

Understanding the Message of the Cross​

The Perception of the Cross​

The message of the cross is often seen as foolishness by those who are perishing. This perspective is rooted in a rejection of the gospel, leading to a misunderstanding of its significance. For many, the idea of salvation through a crucified Christ appears absurd and illogical.

The Power of God for the Saved​

In contrast, for those who are being saved, the message of the cross represents the power of God. Believers understand that this act of sacrifice is central to their faith and offers hope and redemption. It signifies God's love and the means by which humanity can be reconciled with Him.

Biblical Context​

This concept is articulated in 1 Corinthians 1:18, which states that "the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." This division highlights the differing responses to the gospel based on one's spiritual state.

Conclusion​

The cross serves as a pivotal point in Christian belief, embodying both folly and power, depending on one's relationship with God. For believers, it is a source of strength and salvation, while for others, it remains a stumbling block.
This begs the question: Who is the gospel for? The saved or the unsaved?
For whom, is it actually good news?

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The biblical term "the gospel is foolishness" came to mind. A search provided this.

The phrase "the gospel is foolishness to those perishing"
Reminds me of your comment, "no wonder I don't trust the Bible".
 

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A follow-up to a previous topic:


Respondents had great difficulty in defining what the one gospel is.
Disagreeing with me that there were many gospels, they brought more gospels of their own.

There was no consensus about what the ONE gospel is.

This topic is to focus on "WHAT is the one gospel?"

The one gospel - What is it?
In the previous topic, I answered saying that the gospel is that "God is present, active, powerful, and working through us."

I still think that's a good answer... for a one-line response. But like most one-line responses, a more complete answer can be given with a little more time/effort invested. So I'll try harder. The gospel can be stated in a number of different ways. Let's look at some of them.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND
According to Matthew, Mark, and Luke, this was the gospel message preached by Jesus, by John the Baptist before Him, and by His apostles after Him. Like most things Jesus says, it's a little opaque - to find the meaning takes a little digging, and it seems that's how Jesus wanted it to be.

Matthew 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'

Digging in a little, the Greek word (Ἤγγικεν) here translated "at hand," is actually a verb. It usually means "to draw close" but in this case it expresses a completed act. If we put it in modern terms, we might say "has arrived." So, Jesus was more-or-less walking into various towns and announcing, "God's kingdom has now arrived!"

The word translated kingdom (βασιλεία) is also ambiguous. While it CAN refer to a physical kingdom, it most literally refers to the AUTHORITY to rule, rather than the territory that is ruled. Given the repeated statements of "My kingdom is not of this world," and His insistence that this kingdom is within them (quote below), it makes more sense that it refers to God's AUTHORITY than a physical kingdom.

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Let's put context to that. The people Jesus is addressing this gospel to (Israelites but mostly not from the tribe of Judah) were looking for a Messiah to come, or at least a prophet, because they hadn't had a recognized prophet for several hundred years. Many were looking for deliverance from Roman rule.

All of these views hold God as being far away, at a distance, even absent.

The "good news" delivered here is that God is not absent, nor is He far away, at some distance. His AUTHORITY lives inside of us. His agency to work in this world is THROUGH us.

I said previously the gospel is that "God is present, active, powerful, and working through us." That is the message here.

YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST
Across Romans, both epistles to the Corinthians, and Ephesians, Paul proclaims that the church functions as the Body of Christ (or at least ought to).

1Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. ... 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

The modern church seems to take this as a metaphor. I suggest that Paul means it entirely literally. God is a Spirit, yes, and Christ ascended to the right hand of the Father. Yet, our Lord still has a physical body here in the world. It's us. We are literally His hands and feet. We're how He rules and reigns, now.

And this is the same gospel we just saw above. God is present, and powerful, and works through us.

THE TEMPLE OF LIVING STONES
Peter, too, offers us the same basic message:

1Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 7 Unto you therefore which believe [he is] precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, [even to them] which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: 10 Which in time past [were] not a people, but [are] now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Paul calls the church a body, composed of many body parts, under the head, Jesus. Peter calls us a temple, composed of living stones, fitted together with the chief cornerstone and capstone, again Jesus. We are the royal priesthood that serves in that temple. The message is the same. God indwells those who believe. We carry out His will and work. He is present, and powerful, and works through us.

To sum up, Jesus, Paul, Peter, John the Baptist, and the rest of Jesus' disciples present the same message. To those waiting around for God to show up, you need not wait because He is already here. You only need to align yourself with God and the rest of the His people (aka repentance) to enter the unity of the faith. Those who do so will exercise God's authority in the world to rule and to reign.
 

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In the previous topic, I answered saying that the gospel is that "God is present, active, powerful, and working through us."

I still think that's a good answer... for a one-line response. But like most one-line responses, a more complete answer can be given with a little more time/effort invested. So I'll try harder. The gospel can be stated in a number of different ways. Let's look at some of them.
Terrific post, thanks.

I wonder whether this could be packaged as a relevant message to the unsaved?

Something like:
"If you are feeling powerless in this world, please understand that God is active today to work through us."
(Here is what He is doing in my life...)

To sum up, Jesus, Paul, Peter, John the Baptist, and the rest of Jesus' disciples present the same message. To those waiting around for God to show up, you need not wait because He is already here. You only need to align yourself with God and the rest of the His people (aka repentance) to enter the unity of the faith. Those who do so will exercise God's authority in the world to rule and to reign.
Again, what would make this a relevant message for today?
I know of no one today that is waiting for God to show up.
More like they missed the boat.
But they likely feel that He is distant from us and uncaring.
 

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Terrific post, thanks.

I wonder whether this could be packaged as a relevant message to the unsaved?

Something like:
"If you are feeling powerless in this world, please understand that God is active today to work through us."
(Here is what He is doing in my life...)
I think the message is powerful. Power is actually at the core of the message.

The problem is... well, the church doesn't exactly model it, do we? Are we really out there acting in unity, exercising divine authority to rule and to reign?

I don't say that to place blame. For myself, I wouldn't march into a church and tell people to follow me as I follow Christ (as Paul did). My life doesn't shine as an example of God's authority made manifest in the world like that. :ummm:
Again, what would make this a relevant message for today?
I know of no one today that is waiting for God to show up.
No? I've know more than my fair share of believers who were holding out for a rapture, for Jesus to return. The gospel as I've stated it here is at loggerheads with that sentiment.
More like they missed the boat.
But they likely feel that He is distant from us and uncaring.
I think that the idea of God as an absent Father or landlord is one of the world's most enduring deceptions.
 

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The problem is... well, the church doesn't exactly model it, do we? Are we really out there acting in unity, exercising divine authority to rule and to reign?

I don't say that to place blame. For myself, I wouldn't march into a church and tell people to follow me as I follow Christ (as Paul did). My life doesn't shine as an example of God's authority made manifest in the world like that. :ummm:
This is a major problem. And one of the issues that is distancing me from the church.

No? I've know more than my fair share of believers who were holding out for a rapture, for Jesus to return. The gospel as I've stated it here is at loggerheads with that sentiment.
I meant unbelievers today waiting for God to show up.

I think that the idea of God as an absent Father or landlord is one of the world's most enduring deceptions.
Agree.
And I believe that all too often it is modeled to children through their earthly fathers.
I work hard to make myself accessible to my family.
 

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The Good News is, "God reigns". And His Kingdom, and His King, are close by.
 

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The one gospel - What is it?​


Don't you know? Just another of your MANY attacks on God of the Bible, STV?
 
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This topic is to focus on "WHAT is the one gospel?"

The one gospel - What is it?
I'm involved in one of those discussions now.

I came to the conclusion that the "one Gospel" is that Jesus, crucified and risen from the dead, is Lord.

Everything else is just commentary.
 
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A follow-up to a previous topic:


Respondents had great difficulty in defining what the one gospel is.
Disagreeing with me that there were many gospels, they brought more gospels of their own.

There was no consensus about what the ONE gospel is.

This topic is to focus on "WHAT is the one gospel?"

The one gospel - What is it?

The Gospel is the story of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the explaining of its significance in terms of the Old Jewish Tanach and surrounding pagan religions and greater metaphysical and existential themes and issues.
 

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The Gospel is the story of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the explaining of its significance in terms of the Old Jewish Tanach and surrounding pagan religions and greater metaphysical and existential themes and issues.
Nothing to worry about then?
You either know, or you don't know?
Anything required?
 

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Nothing to worry about then?
You either know, or you don't know?
Anything required
Nothing to worry about then?
You either know, or you don't know?
Anything required?
The Gospel literally is described in two Pauline epistle verses as "the Life, Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ". I was reminded of this in recent times of dealing with Seventh Day Adventists that have an extremely expansive Gospel that includes such things as the reform of one's diet for alleged health benefits. But by definition the focus needs to be on the Life, Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ and how belief in that establishes relationship with the One, True God of the Universe.

Beyond all that there is also a rejection of the World System as far as what the top priority of one's life is. Like the merchants driven out of the temple courtyard you can pursue Christianity for the wrong ends like getting rich, or getting power etc. Besides that there are ideologies that also win over disciples and compete with Christ.
 
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