What is the difference between the gospel to the Jews and the gospel to the gentiles?

[St. SteVen]

That's because the death, burial and resurrection is NOT the gospel.

Several respondents have named this as the one gospel.

St. SteVen said:
Yet another gospel. [edit]

The same one. At least, Paul tells me so. I think those who tell me that Paul was the one proclaiming a different gospel, are the ones confused.

Wasn't Paul's gospel "Christ and Him crucified"?

 

[St. SteVen]

Repentance is included in Abraham's story. "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."

That doesn't sound like repentance to me. What was he repenting of?

 

[amigo de christo]

"obey the Son"
That's a tall order.

Matthew 10:8 NIV
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons.
Freely you have received; freely give.

Deconstrution leads only to destruction . You sat under and loved the wrong stuff my friend .
And it will be your ruin . Might i suggest you start over fast IN JUST the bible for yourself .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Deconstrution leads only to destruction . You sat under and loved the wrong stuff my friend .
And it will be your ruin . Might i suggest you start over fast IN JUST the bible for yourself .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

He who calls JESUS a liar has not e ternal life .
Even if they can use his Name , its all in vain .
We cannot preach both b eleif and unbelief . so many will wail my friend . Even many who said LORD , LORD
and yet allowed unbelief to be taught . We bet ter all watch out for that one my friend .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Inclusivists BELIEVE JESUS saved them , heck they beleive BECAUSE JESUS IS THE SAVOIR of the world
IT MEANS ALL are saved . whether ya believe or did not beleive .
THAT is only the working of anti christ . Because HE WHO BELEIVES NOT
the testimony that GOD g ave OF HIS SON , IS CALLING GOD A LIAR .
And th e last time i checked , JESUS darn sure made it clear
about having to BELEIvE ON HIM to HAVE THIS ETERNAL LIFE and be saved
and man did he warn those who DID NOT BELIEVE ON HIM of their worse than sodom for you OUTCOME .
SATAN is a liar and he knows how to seem like a loving fellow indeed who only cares for you . HE IS A LIAR .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

BIBLE . You seen it . YOU see what he d oes with it and tries to imply .
DECONSTRUCTION my friend leads only to ones DESTRUCTION .
Let us alll say it , DECONSTRUCTION leads only to ones own DESTRUCTION .
The bible ought never to have been twisted and words omitted and etc .

@amigo de christo

 

[rvmb]

I think you need to follow the plot here starting at post #178

""Then he laid hands on them"" Not today.
Rom- Philemon, what is required to receive HS >>> Eph 1:13
""The type that aligns with the Abrahamic covenant as gospel.""
Really ? Then explain how Abraham was saved by the Gospel Christ taught Paul - Gal 1:11-12.
""Perhaps that is four gospels right there?""
What verses teach that ?
******************
So you are unable to refute my post with Scripture.
No surprise

 

[St. SteVen]

So you are unable to refute my post with Scripture.

I am unable to follow your unhinged logic. - LOL

 

[Soyeong]

There is a biblical warning about not preaching any OTHER gospel.
But it seems that there was a gospel message to the Jews and a gospel message to the gentiles.
Because the two audiences were completely different.

- The Jews, of course were expecting a Messiah. The gentiles weren't.
- The Jews were raised under the law. The gentiles weren't.

What other key differences altered the gospel message to the Jews as opposed to the gentiles?

In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Law of Moses was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace, which Paul also taught based on the Law of Moses:

Acts 14:21-22 When they had preached the gospel to that city and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra and to Iconium and to Antioch, 22 strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.

Acts 20:24-25 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom will see my face again.

Acts 28:23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.

 

[rvmb]

I am unable to follow your unhinged logic. - LOL

Your inability to understand hinged Scripture is loud & clear LOL
***
""Then he laid hands on them"" Not today.
Rom- Philemon, what is required to receive HS >>> Eph 1:13
""The type that aligns with the Abrahamic covenant as gospel.""
Really ? Then explain how Abraham was saved by the Gospel Christ taught Paul - Gal 1:11-12.
""Perhaps that is four gospels right there?""
What verses teach that ?

 

[GodsGrace]

He who calls JESUS a liar has not e ternal life .
Even if they can use his Name , its all in vain .
We cannot preach both b eleif and unbelief . so many will wail my friend . Even many who said LORD , LORD
and yet allowed unbelief to be taught . We bet ter all watch out for that one my friend .

Jesus stated what you're saying above:

Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.


John 8:24
24...... unless * you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."

 

[GodsGrace]

"obey the Son"
That's a tall order.

Matthew 10:8 NIV
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons.
Freely you have received; freely give.

That is your reply?


Are YOU an Apostle?

Did Jesus tell YOU to raise the dead, cleanse leprosy and drive out demons?

I don't think so.

 

[GodsGrace]

"obey the Son"
That's a tall order.

Matthew 10:8 NIV
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy,[a] drive out demons.
Freely you have received; freely give.

PS

So since you cannot raise the dead....
does this imply that you believe we are NOT to obey Jesus??

 

[Brakelite]

What if understanding doctrine never happens??
Is the person still saved??

As Lambano so eloquently pointed out, the sheep and the goats aren't to be judged by the knowledge of doctrine.

 

[Brakelite]

That is not at all what I'm saying. I said these things are very important to learn, they should be taught to the babes in Christ. Doctrine DOES matter.
I said people need to know these things, NOT people need to know these things BEFORE COMING TO GOD. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I am sorry, but that's not the message you were implying. You quoted Steven about not needing to know doctrine... He was saying this in relation to coming to Christ. I was speaking to that context, presuming you were doing the same seeing you were quoting him.

 

[St. SteVen]

So since you cannot raise the dead....
does this imply that you believe we are NOT to obey Jesus??

Good question.

When God instructs me to perform a miracle, He also empowers me.
Therefore I can indeed raise the dead when instructed and empowered to do so.
We should always obey Jesus. Especially His direct orders.

My point was that if you take all His instruction in general, no one has measured up.
In total, it's a tall order.

 

[St. SteVen]

That is your reply?


Are YOU an Apostle?

Did Jesus tell YOU to raise the dead, cleanse leprosy and drive out demons?

I don't think so.

Miracles are listed among the manifestations of the Spirit (gifts) in 1 Corinthians chapter 12.
The list is for the whole church even today.

An apostle is a "sent out one". Are you an apostle?

 

[St. SteVen]

In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, and the Law of Moses was how his audience knew what sin is (Romans 3:20), so repenting from our disobedience to it is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace, which Paul also taught based on the Law of Moses:

Acts 14:21-22 When they had preached the gospel to that city and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra and to Iconium and to Antioch, 22 strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.

Acts 20:24-25 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom will see my face again.

Acts 28:23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.

With that in mind, what is the one gospel?
Or do you believe in several gospels?
(I count several in your post)

 

[Soyeong]

With that in mind, what is the one gospel?
Or do you believe in several gospels?
(I count several in your post)

There is one Gospel, through there are multiple ways of describing it that all boil down to the message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand. For example, in Titus 2:14, Jesus gave himself to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so the way to believe in the Gospel that Jesus spent his ministry teaching and accomplished through the cross is by repenting and becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to the Law of Moses (Acts 21:20).