IS THERE ONLY WATER BAPTISM?

[Doug]

that is law we live under grace you can have your water baptism salvation which == works we do .i am no longer in this strange fire discussion

Just saying you said it wasnt Biblical, I showed it was, dispensational is another matter altogether
Finally you continue to say I teach water baptism for our salvation, which I do not

 

[Ezra]

I teach water baptism for our salvation, which I do not

when you say water baptism saves that's what your saying. 1peter 1:21
The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,..beyond that i done been called moron because i disagreed .. my good nature wears thin when it becomes name calling.. ..you never did answer why Jesus was baptized immersed in water . i have read and witnessed mockery of how he was baptized

 

[doctrox]

why Jesus was baptized immersed in water . i have read and witnessed mockery of how he was baptized

What of Jesus' baptism? John protested:

But John forbade [Jesus], saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? (Mat. 3:14).

And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. (Mat. 3:15).

Jesus was the perfect spotless Lamb of God; he didn't need his sins washed away. Rather, Jesus asked John to accommodate him, because it made sense for them "to fulfill all righteousness". So John went ahead and baptized Jesus. The end of the old, and the start of the new.

So what does "to fulfill all righteousness" mean?

Well, Jesus was born into a Jewish family; circumcised at 8 days of age; taken to the temple at 12 years of age; raised in all the disciplines of the Jewish religion. And now he does this one final Jewish ritual, marking the end of his Jewishness and the start of a deeper revelation. The end of the old, and the start of the new.

Jesus came to replace, fulfill, render useless, the law of Moses:

The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it (Luke 16:16). The end of the old, and the start of the new.

There is only one Lord, one faith, and one baptism via the Holy Ghost!

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body... (1 Cor. 12:13).

 

[Ezra]

There is only one Lord, one faith, and one baptism via the Holy Ghost!

For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body... (1 Cor. 12:13).

i agree with you ,,but lol i was wanting doug to answer .he is so heavy on water baptism saves john baptism was of repentance external only Jesus baptism spirit--eternally

 

[doctrox]

i agree with you ,,but lol i was wanting doug to answer .he is so heavy on water baptism saves john baptism was of repentance external only Jesus baptism spirit--eternally

Ok! It's a blessing that it's not our job to convict anyone. We declare the truth and we move on.

 

[Doug]

when you say water baptism saves that's what your saying. 1peter 1:21
The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,..beyond that i done been called moron because i disagreed .. my good nature wears thin when it becomes name calling.. ..you never did answer why Jesus was baptized immersed in water . i have read and witnessed mockery of how he was baptized

Unless I am wrong way back you said we should be water baptized following salvation. I asked why there is no instructions for it if we should do it.
Water baptism washed away Israel's sin NOT OURS. Water baptism saved believing Israel to enter the kingdom on earth

[John 1:31 KJV] "And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water."...........Jesus's water baptism was to make him known to Israel
[Matthew 3:14 KJV] "But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?"
[Matthew 3:15 KJV] "And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.".............Jesus was baptized to fulfill. all righteousness. The law required priest's to be washed with water and Jesus is High Priest. Jesus was baptized along with sinful Israel.
[Matthew 3:16 KJV] "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"
[Matthew 3:17 KJV] "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."..................Jesus fulfilled the prophets at his baptism...............[Psalm 2:7 KJV] "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee."

 

[Ezra]

Water baptism washed away Israel's sin NOT OURS. Water baptism saved believing Israel to enter the kingdom on earth

nope no amount of water ever washed any sins away .. it may represent symbolically . beyond that every o.t sacrifice was of the blood .. Cain and Abel sacrifice able brought a yearling--- brought of the first lings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: in the tabernacle there was a blood sacrifice.. the priest did have go through a ceremonial cleaning to enter the tabernacle ,,beyond that it was all Blood even at that in the o.t it was only temporal .. where Christ sacrifice is eternal


Hebrews 9:13
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Hebrews 10

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.


4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.


5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:.


once again if you hold to water forgiving of sins have at it

 

[Doug]

nope no amount of water ever washed any sins away .. it may represent symbolically . beyond that every o.t sacrifice was of the blood .. Cain and Abel sacrifice able brought a yearling--- brought of the first lings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: in the tabernacle there was a blood sacrifice.. the priest did have go through a ceremonial cleaning to enter the tabernacle ,,beyond that it was all Blood even at that in the o.t it was only temporal .. where Christ sacrifice is eternal


Hebrews 9:13
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Hebrews 10

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.


4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.


5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:.


once again if you hold to water forgiving of sins have at it

[Hebrews 10:4 KJV] "For [it is] not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins."............The blood of bulls and goats couldnt take away sins yet God accepted it for the forgiveness of Israel's sins..............[Leviticus 17:11 KJV] "For the life of the flesh [is] in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it [is] the blood [that] maketh an atonement for the soul."

God accepted the blood of animals and water baptism to forgive their sins based on the shed blood of Christ.

 

[Ezra]

God accepted the blood of animals and water baptism to forgive their sins based on the shed blood of Christ.

sure he has gezz i dont know what doctrine your using ..but it aint Bible ..i am have shot your water baptism down several times.. were done