The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

[Zao is life]

IF Moses and Elijah were both taken ALIVE [ZAO] IN THEIR BODIES to heaven THEN they were ALIVE [ZAO] when they appeared with Jesus

AND

they were both given eternal LIFE [ZOE] IN CHRIST - EVEN BEFORE He died and rose again.

- but there is A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB

- WHO HAD ALL D-I-E-D AND WERE STILL D-E-A-D when Jesus told the Sadducess they would RISE AGAIN FROM THE DEAD because God is not the God of the D-E-A-D but of those who are A-L-I-V-E.

God is not the God of D-E-A-T-H but of L-I-F-E [ZOE] and of THOSE WHO ARE A-L-I-V-E.

God BREATHED L-I-F-E [ZOE] into Adam, and THAT IS WHY Adam became a L-I-V-I-N-G [ZAO] soul.

AND THE SAME GOES FOR LAZARETH WHEN JESUS TOLD MARTHA HE WOULD RISE AGAIN FROM THE D-E-A-D

- AND WHOEVER BELIEVES IN JESUS - EVEN THOUGH HE D-I-E, that one who believes in Jesus would L-I-V-E [ZAO] again because JESUS IS the RESURRECTION and the L-I-F-E [ZOE].

Mainstream church theology conflates being alive [zao] forever with the life [zoe] that is the source of being alive [zao] where Jesus spoke to the Sadducees, and where He spoke to Martha.

* The One God who exists from eternity unto eternity is a Spirit (John 4:24) and the source of all existence, and all life [zoe]. The life [zoe] that is in Him is eternal life [zoe aionios].

* God alone has/possesses life [zoe] in Himself (John 1:4; John 5:26).

Paul wrote:

"There is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we IN HIM; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we BY him." (1 Corinthians 8:6);

and:

"In Him (God) we live | are alive [zao], and move, and have our being; For we are also his offspring." (Acts 17:28).

God is omnipresent. The Spirit of God is omnipresent.

"And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath (spirit) of life." (Genesis 7:15).

"In Him (God) we live | are alive [zao], and move, and have our being; For we are also his offspring." (Acts 17:28).

So what happens to the human spirit when the body dies?

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Solomon).

Genesis 6:17 says,
"And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath (spirit) of life [zoe], from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die."

All flesh died in the flood because ever since the fall of Adam, the breath (spirit) of life [zoe] which is in the flesh does not remain in the flesh eternally - and that which is born of the flesh, is flesh:

The breath (spirit) of life [zoe] which is in the flesh does not remain in the flesh eternally - and that which is born of the flesh, is flesh:

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Solomon).

When Jesus raised a young girl from the dead, the gospel of Luke tells us that:

"her spirit came again, and she arose straightway: and he commanded to give her meat." (Luke 8:55). *

John 3
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Adam was alive [zao] forever (immortal) but he sinned, and the moment he sinned, his body began to die.

(The only source of the breath of life - the spirit - is God - and the above occurred before Jesus had died and had risen again bodily from the dead).

* There is only one Spirit who was the source of life [zoe] that enabled Adam to live [zao] forever before he sinned, lost his connection to the source of life, and his body began to slowly die;

and there is only one Spirit who is the source of life [zoe], by which human beings can live | be alive [zao] FOREVER (be immortal) after having been resurrected from the dead.​

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No so-called 'dead human spirit' being "quickened" (or "regenerated from death") is going to be a source or 'another' source of life [zoe] enabling the seed of Adam to live [zao] forever. The Spirit of Christ alone is that source of life.

Not born again:

1. Body dies. Soul goes to hades. "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Solomon).

2. Body will be resurrected through Christ's resurrection. The soul will not be found in the Lamb's book of Life. Revelation 20:15 tells you the rest.

Born again:

1. Body dies. Soul and (God-breathed) spirit goes to be with Christ, who is our life.

2. Body will be resurrected: "When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).​

 

[rwb]

* There is only one Spirit who was the source of life [zoe] that enabled Adam to live [zao] forever before he sinned, lost his connection to the source of life, and his body began to slowly die;

and there is only one Spirit who is the source of life [zoe], by which human beings can live | be alive [zao] FOREVER (be immortal) after having been resurrected from the dead.

I find much I agree with you here but would point out that natural man does not have the Holy Spirit for life, but they still possess mortal life through spirit naturally in them.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The connection you speak of that man lost when they sinned is the Holy Spirit. That's why man came under condemnation of death and would no longer physically live forever. If the Holy Spirit had not departed from man when they sinned, mankind would not have become destined to die, because the life we receive from the Holy Spirit is never ending (eternal spiritual life). That's why we must be born again of the Spirit to again possess not only eternal spiritual life now; in this age of time, but also immortal physical life we shall possess when Christ comes again.

From the moment A&E disobeyed God, being deceived, the Spirit that gave them everlasting life departed, and the spirit in man made them natural and of another master the Devil.

 

[David in NJ]

John 3​

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Adam was alive [zao] forever (immortal) but he sinned, and the moment he sinned, his body began to die. When Jesus raised a young girl from the dead, the gospel of Luke tells us that:

Elohim said that in the day you eat you will die = not the next day and not 930 years later!

Adam and Eve died the very moment they ate the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil" "and their eyes were opened".

Death took Effect Immediately upon them breaking Elohim's Commandment.

Elohim made man in three parts = body , soul , spirit

Adam's body did not die the same day they ate the fruit.

Adam's soul did not die the same day they ate the fruit.

That only leaves us with Adam's spirit = which DIED thru SEPARATION from the Spirit of Elohim

Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a leader of the Jews. He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs You are doing if God were not with him.”

Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

“How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked. “Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?”

Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

@Zao is life was born into this world DEAD in trespasses and sins = Ephe 2:1-3

@Zao is life was given a body and soul and spirit at conception

@Zao is life only knew the life that was/is his body and soul coming into the world until you were "Born-Again" from Above

It was your spirit that was Born-Again = not your body!!!

Because your soul is attached to your spirit, your soul expresses that which came ALIVE in your spirit.

Always believe every word of God = John 3:1-8 and 1 Corinthians 2:11
For who among men knows the things of the man, except the spirit of the man within him?
So also, no one knows the things of God, except the Spirit of God.

 

[rwb]

That only leaves us with Adam's spirit = which DIED thru SEPARATION from the Spirit of Elohim

Adam's spirit did not die when they disobeyed God, because life, both natural physical/mortal life, and supernatural spiritual eternal life is of the spirit that alone gives life. Natural physical life comes from natural spirit in man, and supernatural eternal spiritual life comes from the Holy Spirit we receive when we are born again.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 3:5-6 (KJV) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

[Zao is life]

That's why we must be born again of the Spirit to again possess not only eternal spiritual life now; in this age of time, but also immortal physical life we shall possess when Christ comes again.

From the moment A&E disobeyed God, being deceived, the Spirit that gave them everlasting life departed, and the spirit in man made them natural and of another master the Devil.

Thanks for the reply. I agree with you up to this point - and I've highlighted the word you used.

The reason I highlighted that word is very important - it's because that word "possess" has resulted in a LOT of confusion among the brethren.

The only human being ever to walk the face of the earth who possessed eternal in Himself, was the Son of God.

- For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself - John 5:26

- He is the Word of God in whom is life (John 1:4) who became flesh (John 1:14).

And this is the record, that God has given to us everlasting life, [zoe aionios]

- and this life [zoe] is in His Son.

- He who has the Son has (everlasting) life [zoe); he who does not have the Son of God does not have (everlasting) life [zoe]. - 1 John 5:11-12

- because He is the Word of God in whom is life [zoe] (John 1:4), who became flesh (John 1:14), died for our sins, and rose again from the dead, and as the Father has life [zoe] in Himself, so He has given to the Son to have life [zoe] in Himself (John 5:26).

- and so He is the last Adam, in whom is life [zoe], and as death came through the first Adam, so eternal life is in the last Adam.

Creator: All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life [zoe], and the life was the light of men. -- John 1: 3-4.

There is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we IN HIM; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we BY him. -- 1 Corinthians 8:6.

In Him (God) we live | are alive [zao], and move, and have our being; For we are also his offspring. -- Acts 17:28.

The created human beings and their seed do not possess life in ourselves

- the first lie began with the words "You will not surely die".

- therefore since the fall of Adam until Christ, the creature did not have ETERNAL life [zoe aionios] - the source of immortality.

Creator life given IN creation (but not TO the creation): For as the Father has life [zoe] in Himself, so He has given to the Son to have life [zoe] within Himself. -- John 5:26

- We do not POSSESS life in ourselves (it's given to us IN CHRIST, who alone POSSESSES life IN HIMSELF)

- so no so-called 'dead human spirit' being "quickened" (or "regenerated from death") is ever going to be a source or 'another' source of life [zoe] enabling the seed of Adam to live [zao] forever (be immortal).

- The Spirit of Christ alone is that source of eternal life.

"When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).

I agree with this below, but I want to explain my agreement:

I find much I agree with you here but would point out that natural man does not have the Holy Spirit for life, but they still possess mortal life through spirit naturally in them.

"For the life [Hebrew: nephesh] of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls [nephesh]: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul [nephesh] | Greek: psuchḗ]." (Leviticus 17:11).

- The above Hebrew verse is using the same word for the life of the flesh that it's using for the soul of the flesh.

- The Greek New Testament uses the equivalent word psuche interchangeably for the mind, the life, and the soul:-

Sarx: The flesh.
Soma: The body.
Pneuma: Spirit.
Psuche: The soul, the mind, and the life of the flesh
Greek words.

For example,

"He that loveth his life [psuche] shall lose it; and he that hateth his life [psuche] in this world shall keep it unto life [zōḗ] eternal." (John 12:25).

Born of the Spirit Genesis 1:1 & 26-27, and Genesis 2:7:

Created: When YHVH God created [bara] man,

Formed: He formed [yatsar] man of the dust of the ground; and

Breathed: breathed (naphach) into his nostrils the breath (nshamah) of life (chay); and

Became: the man became [H1961 haya] a living [chay] soul (nephesh).

"The Spirit breathes where He desires, and you hear His voice,but you do not know from where He comes, and where He goes; so is everyone who is born [γεννάω gennáō] of the Spirit." (John 3:8).

"That which is born [gennáō] of the flesh (body) is flesh, and that which is born [gennáō] of the Spirit is spirit." ( John 3:6).

- but all life and all existence is of God, and in God. The life that is in us when we are born, is psuche, but that life is still of God and provided by the Spirit of God. God IS life.

- but the life which is in us when we are born of the flesh is not ETERNAL life - we need to be born of the Spirit and placed in Christ - the Word in whom is life who became human, died for our sins and rose again from the dead - because HE possesses (eternal) life IN HIMSELF. The last Adam.

- Created human beings and their seed will never possess life in ourselves.

- but Jesus DOES - hence He is alive forevermore - possessing His immortality:

-- "I am the First and the Last, and the Living [zao] One, and I became dead [nekros], and behold, I am alive [zao] to the ages of the ages, Amen. And I have the keys of hades and of death." (Revelation 1:17-18).

"He (Christ) alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen." (1 Timothy 6:15-16).

Though we will be immortal following the resurrection, the seed of Adam and Eve cannot ever possess our own immortality any more than Adam and Eve did - because we do not possess life IN OURSELVES.

I've quoted all the New Testament verses using the word psuche in reference to the life, the mind, and the soul of the flesh HERE

Copy @David in NJ

@David in NJ will never possess either eternal life or immortality IN HIMSELF because God did not create life and existence that exists outside of God or alongside God when He created your ancestors and mine. All life / spirit is OF GOD. IN HIM we live and move and have our being and ONLY CHRIST possesses life IN HIMSELF and our eternal life is given to us IN HIM.

POSSESSION OF LIFE IS THE KEY.

YOUR UNDERSTANDING THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION FROM SIN AND DEATH IS FAULTY, David.

 

[David in NJ]

Adam's spirit did not die when they disobeyed God, because life, both natural physical/mortal life, and supernatural spiritual eternal life is of the spirit that alone gives life. Natural physical life comes from natural spirit in man, and supernatural eternal spiritual life comes from the Holy Spirit we receive when we are born again.

John 6:63 (KJV) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

John 3:5-6 (KJV) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

These two verses you posted PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt the Truth in Post 3

Live my dear friend = on His every word, for they are Spirit and they are LIFE

 

[rwb]

Thanks for the reply. I agree with you up to this point - and I've highlighted the word you used.

The reason I highlighted that word is very important - it's because that word "possess" has resulted in a LOT of confusion among the brethren.

The only human being ever to walk the face of the earth who possessed eternal in Himself, was the Son of God.

I agree, but I was referring to what we shall possess after Christ comes again and all things have been made new.

1 John 3:2 (KJV) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

The created human beings and their seed do not possess life in ourselves

Life is of the spirit breathing life into our mortal flesh. The spirit gives all breathing creatures life until the moment when the breath of life (spirit) leaves the body of flesh to return to God.

Genesis 6:17 (KJV) And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

Just as spirit in natural man gives man physical life, so too the Spirit of God that man receives when they are born again of God, gives natural man supernatural spiritual life that shall never die.

Job 33:4 (KJV) The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

- therefore since the fall of Adam until Christ, the creature did not have ETERNAL life [zoe aionios] - the source of immortality.

Before Christ came those of Old could not attain eternal life through Christ until Christ came to make atonement for sin and defeat death. In the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, Christ shows there was a distinction between those of Old who died in faith and those who died in unbelief. After death faithful Lazarus was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom, while the rich man dying in unbelief was simply buried. The faithful of Old, believing in the promise of the Messiah to come, died waiting for Christ to come to rescue them from death. Before ascending to heaven Christ first descended to the lower parts of the earth (the bosom of Abraham) to set the captives free through His Spirit. (see Lu 16:19-31) The place of the grave (Abraham's bosom) of the faithful dead is empty and can no longer hold saints of Christ in bondage to death.

Ephesians 4:8-10 (KJV) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

After Pentecost with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit faithful saints spiritually ascend to heaven even while in bodies of flesh, possessing eternal spiritual life through Him, and
when our body breathes its last (the spirit departs to return to God).

It is true that all faithful saints who have been born again have eternal life through spirit, immortal life of flesh shall not be until the final trumpet sounds and our mortal body is resurrected changed from mortal to immortal alive through the spirit that returns with Christ.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 (KJV) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

so no so-called 'dead human spirit' being "quickened" (or "regenerated from death") is ever going to be a source or 'another' source of life [zoe] enabling the seed of Adam to live [zao] forever.

I don't believe there can be any form of life whatsoever in mortal flesh without having the breath of life (spirit). I agree before man has been born again of the Spirit sent from Christ, we are not spiritually dead. What we are is without the Spirit of Christ who makes us SPIRITUALLY ALIVE forever the moment we have been born again. That's why whosoever desires to have eternal life must be born again.

- We do not POSSESS life in ourselves (it's given to us IN CHRIST, who alone POSSESSES life IN HIMSELF,

The flesh of man has physical life through the breath of life (spirit) every living breathing, because we are flesh + spirit = living soul.

 

[David in NJ]

YOUR UNDERSTANDING THE GOSPEL OF SALVATION FROM SIN AND DEATH IS FAULTY, David.

But you haven't proved that = and cannot since i am the only one here obeying His Commandment = Matt 4:4

THE Answer you will Find
when you look at the Divine
Apostle John, yea he knew
i suggest you SEE from his View
now here is the Clue:
"Light that gives to each man that lives"

 

[Zao is life]

But you haven't proved that = and cannot since i am the only one here obeying His Commandment = Matt 4:4

THE Answer you will Find
when you look at the Divine
Apostle John, yea he knew
i suggest you SEE from his View
now here is the Clue:
"Light that gives to each man that lives"

Do you believe that the source of eternal life is IN the created thing?

Because your theology proves that you believe that the created thing has been given eternal life in itself, so that the source of eternal life is IN the created thing, i.e that the created thing has become its own source of eternal life.

When Adam and Eve departed from the Word of God in whom alone is that life, they died.

The eternal life we have been given is in Christ alone. We must continually eat of the tree of life and continually drink of the living water - of the river of the water life.

PS: Just in case what I said to you above becomes misconstrued by others, I did not say you have departed from the Word of God. The Word of God is Jesus, and eternal life is in Him, and you believe in Him.

But like Adam and Eve, you believe that because His life is in you (because IN CHRIST God has given eternal life to you), you believe that you automatically retain that eternal life

- as in you believe the words "You will not surely die"

- but you have not sinned by departing from Christ the Word of God and disobeying a commandment that brings either life if it is obeyed, or death if it is disobeyed.

The eternal life we have been given is in Christ alone. We must continually eat of the tree of life and continually drink of the living water - of the river of the water life.

Time for you to believe the words of Jesus:

--- I am the vine, ye are the branches. Abide in me, and I in you, because if a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned, and as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. --- (John 15:4-6, verses rearranged).

Most of the church does not believe Jesus (the Word of God) with regard to this - they believe their own interpretation Of His words and of His apostles' words

2 Thessalonians 2 show that most of the church will be deceived by Satan and his man of sin.

Revelation 20:7-9 shows that most of the resurrected body of Christ will be deceived by Satan

- and this is the reason why:

The words "You will not surely die" empowered by faith in the lie that the eternal life that is given to you by God in Christ is something you will always retain and cannot lose.

- just like our ancestors Adam and Eve.

Your poems that you believe apply to others who disagree with you - but not to you - will not help you, or give you life.
Your poems that you believe apply to you and not to those who disagree with you will not help you, or give you life.

The only way to retain the eternal life that God has given you and continues to give you IN CHRIST is to remain in Christ (the Vine)

- because by so doing you will be continually drinking of the living water in the river of the water of life, i.e partaking continually of the fruit of the tree of life which God gives to you in Christ - who alone possesses it IN HIMSELF.

 

[Zao is life]

Thank you again for replying. I partially agree and partially disagree with your statements - but I've had to divide my replies to you into different posts due to character limit:

I agree, but I was referring to what we shall possess after Christ comes again and all things have been made new.

1 John 3:2 (KJV) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

Life is of the spirit breathing life into our mortal flesh. The spirit gives all breathing creatures life until the moment when the breath of life (spirit) leaves the body of flesh to return to God.

Genesis 6:17 (KJV) And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

The above I agree with - but IMO your statement below falls short of identifying the source in full - it only partially identifies the source:

Just as spirit in natural man gives man physical life, so too the Spirit of God that man receives when they are born again of God, gives natural man supernatural spiritual life that shall never die.

The supernatural spiritual life that shall never die is IN CHRIST - who is our life - who alone possesses that life IN HIMSELF.

"No one has seen God at any time; the Only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father *, He has made Him known." (John 1:18).

* The Only-begotten Son "lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see." (1 Timothy 6:16):

"He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen."

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The created human beings - Adam and Eve - did not eternally possess eternal life in themselves - it was continually given IN CHRIST - who is the Word of God who created all things

- and it was continually given through "the tree of life"

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- it is the river of the water of life that flows continually and is continually given in Christ

- the tree of life.

--- I am the vine, ye are the branches. Abide in me, and I in you, because if a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned, and as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. --- (John 15:4-6, verses rearranged).

- and we are the seed of those same created human beings.

Eternal life [zoe] is given IN CHRIST JESUS to the seed of created human beings - to those who have been born of His Spirit. (John 1:4; John 5:26; John 14:6; 1 John 5:11-12; and Colossians 3:4);

but unlike the Man Christ Jesus, life [zoe] is not something we will ever possess IN OURSELVES - for us it IS (and always will only be) IN CHRIST - hence life / eternal life never becomes the possession of the seed of created human beings that we will possess in ourselves

Life itself only exists in the Word (John 1:4) - who died for our sins and rose again from the dead and is alive forevermore

-- "I am the First and the Last, and the Living [zao] One,
and I became dead [nekros], and behold, I am alive [zao] to the ages of the ages, Amen.
And I have the keys of hades and of death." --
(Revelation 1:17-18).​

For a human being, to be immortal is to live | to be alive [zao] forever, the source of which is eternal life [zoe], which Christ alone possesses in Himself. We need to continually be drinking of the river of the water of life, which flows continually.

Jesus told those who believe in Him and belong to Him:

"I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
(John 14:19b-20b)​

This is why Jesus also told the seed of created human beings that we must be born of the Spirit (John 3:3-8) in order to perceive, experience, and have knowledge of the Kingdom of God, which He said,

"does not come with external evidence (that can be observed). Nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For take heed, be discerning, and perceive this:

The kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21).​

In Colossians 1:27 Paul talks about "the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints,

which is Christ IN you, the hope of glory."​

Paul also wrote, "When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).

What I said above is what you say below - but again, you use the wrong word:

 

[Zao is life]

Job 33:4 (KJV) The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Before Christ came those of Old could not attain eternal life through Christ until Christ came to make atonement for sin and defeat death.

attain
v 1: to gain with effort; "she achieved her goal despite setbacks" [syn: achieve, accomplish, attain, reach]
-- dict.org

We are incapable of attaining to eternal life - it is given to us IN CHRIST by God. It is a free gift.

I believe you do understand this, and forgive me please for always correcting your choice of words - but I believe the words we use are extremely important - because words have a way of causing misunderstanding in the minds of many Christians, which has resulted in, and still results in, false doctrine.

In the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, Christ shows there was a distinction between those of Old who died in faith and those who died in unbelief. After death faithful Lazarus was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom, while the rich man dying in unbelief was simply buried.

His body was buried, his soul went to hades. You have omitted verse 23:

Luke 16
22 And it happened that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. The rich one also died and was buried.

23 And in hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented.

26 And besides all this, there is a great chasm fixed between you and us; so that they desiring to pass from here to you cannot, nor can they pass over to us from there.

Jesus did not simply say, "the rich man was simply buried".

The faithful of Old, believing in the promise of the Messiah to come, died waiting for Christ to come to rescue them from death.

The faithful old died believing the Word of God in whom is life - the way Noah did, the way Abraham did, and no doubt the way Seth, the son of Adam did

The Word of God is Jesus - no matter how much or little due a lack of knowledge they may have understood. They believed God - unlike Adam and Eve after the serpent contradicted the Word of God.

- and though it is not stated explicitly, I believe it is implied by Eve's words that Adam and Eve believed in the seed to come who would save them from the consequences of their rejection of the Word of God - which (rejection of the Word of God) was what they needed to have done in order to believe the "You will not surely die" lie - which is what produced their sin - their disobedience to the Word of God.

All who believed (the Word of) God were in Abraham's bosom.

 

[Zao is life]

Before ascending to heaven Christ first descended to the lower parts of the earth (the bosom of Abraham) to set the captives free through His Spirit. (see Lu 16:19-31) The place of the grave (Abraham's bosom) of the faithful dead is empty and can no longer hold saints of Christ in bondage to death.

Christ descended into the lowest part of hades and all hades was conquered by Him - Abraham's bosom being the part that was separated from the rest of hades by a great chasm. So yes, He set the captives that were in Abraham's bosom free. Paul says explicitly that (the souls / spirits of) the believers of the Word (Jesus) who are no longer at home in the body will be at home with the Lord - who is in the bosom of the father.

Next up will be the resurrection of their bodies from the dead:

"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." (Revelation 6:9-11).

After Pentecost with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit faithful saints spiritually ascend to heaven even while in bodies of flesh

Again, I believe you know this - but according to your choice of words, once again:

You left out the key words: IN CHRIST

So what you say above is false according to the gospel. No seed of created human beings has ever ascended to heaven - nor could we or can they - only Christ has ascended to heaven - from whence He had descended. So again you left out the key words: IN CHRIST

IN CHRIST we who have been born of His Spirit ascend to heaven - because the Holy Spirit CAME DOWN and filled His Temple. So we are seated with Christ in heavenly places because HIS Spirit is IN US and we are IN HIM - and HE ascended to heaven.

There is a lot of confusion in churches because of clumsy wording used by theologians and teachers of the gospel, resulting in faith in a corrupted gospel.

possessing eternal spiritual life through Him

The created human beings - Adam and Eve - did not eternally possess eternal life in themselves - it was continually given IN CHRIST - who is the Word of God who created all things - and it was continually given through "the tree of life" - and we are the seed of those same created human beings. Life never becomes something we ourselves possess in ourselves. Like Adam and Eve we must continually drink of the living water of the river of life.

and
when our body breathes its last (the spirit departs to return to God).

Yes - but the soul of the one who died in Christ remains in Christ because the spirit of that one is in Christ, and has been given eternal life IN CHRIST.

The souls of those who are not in Christ go to hades:

Revelation 20
13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and Death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each one was judged according to his deeds.
14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death - the lake of fire.
15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, that person was thrown into the lake of fire.

 

[Zao is life]

It is true that all faithful saints who have been born again have eternal life through spirit, immortal life of flesh shall not be until the final trumpet sounds and our mortal body is resurrected changed from mortal to immortal alive through the spirit that returns with Christ.

Yes. It is true:

1 Thessalonians 4:14 (KJV) For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

I don't believe there can be any form of life whatsoever in mortal flesh without having the breath of life (spirit). I agree before man has been born again of the Spirit sent from Christ, we are not spiritually dead.

Glad to know we agree on the above.

What we are is without the Spirit of Christ who makes us SPIRITUALLY ALIVE forever

I would agree, were it not for your wrong and faulty choice of words again - which when used by some (actually many) saints - both feeds off and feeds false doctrine:

Before we were born of the Spirit we were without the eternal spiritual life OF CHRIST that God gives to us IN CHRIST - who alone possesses that life IN HIMSELF (John 5:26; 1 John 5:11).

It is "the tree of life" from which we may now once again freely eat, the river of the water of life which flows continually and from which we must continually drink in order to remain eternally alive [zao] following the resurrection of the body from the dead.

- it is IN THE WORD OF GOD which Adam and Eve departed from, losing their access to the tree of life, and as a result receiving DEATH in their bodies.

That's why whosoever desires to have eternal life must be born again.

I agree. The key word above being eternal - eternal life - because it is IN CHRIST and is GIVEN to those who are IN CHRIST.

The flesh of man has physical life through the breath of life (spirit) every living breathing, because we are flesh + spirit = living soul.

Yes, I agree.

 

[David in NJ]

Thank you again for replying. I partially agree and partially disagree with your statements - but I've had to divide my replies to you into different posts due to character limit:



The above I agree with - but IMO your statement below falls short of identifying the source in full - it only partially identifies the source:



The supernatural spiritual life that shall never die is IN CHRIST - who is our life - who alone possesses that life IN HIMSELF.

"No one has seen God at any time; the Only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father *, He has made Him known." (John 1:18).

* The Only-begotten Son "lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see." (1 Timothy 6:16):

"He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen."

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The created human beings - Adam and Eve - did not eternally possess eternal life in themselves - it was continually given IN CHRIST - who is the Word of God who created all things

- and it was continually given through "the tree of life"

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- it is the river of the water of life that flows continually and is continually given in Christ

- the tree of life.

--- I am the vine, ye are the branches. Abide in me, and I in you, because if a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned, and as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. --- (John 15:4-6, verses rearranged).

- and we are the seed of those same created human beings.

Eternal life [zoe] is given IN CHRIST JESUS to the seed of created human beings - to those who have been born of His Spirit. (John 1:4; John 5:26; John 14:6; 1 John 5:11-12; and Colossians 3:4);

but unlike the Man Christ Jesus, life [zoe] is not something we will ever possess IN OURSELVES - for us it IS (and always will only be) IN CHRIST - hence life / eternal life never becomes the possession of the seed of created human beings that we will possess in ourselves

Life itself only exists in the Word (John 1:4) - who died for our sins and rose again from the dead and is alive forevermore

-- "I am the First and the Last, and the Living [zao] One,
and I became dead [nekros], and behold, I am alive [zao] to the ages of the ages, Amen.
And I have the keys of hades and of death." --
(Revelation 1:17-18).​

For a human being, to be immortal is to live | to be alive [zao] forever, the source of which is eternal life [zoe], which Christ alone possesses in Himself. We need to continually be drinking of the river of the water of life, which flows continually.

Jesus told those who believe in Him and belong to Him:

"I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
(John 14:19b-20b)​

This is why Jesus also told the seed of created human beings that we must be born of the Spirit (John 3:3-8) in order to perceive, experience, and have knowledge of the Kingdom of God, which He said,

"does not come with external evidence (that can be observed). Nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For take heed, be discerning, and perceive this:

The kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21).​

In Colossians 1:27 Paul talks about "the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints,

which is Christ IN you, the hope of glory."​

Paul also wrote, "When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).

What I said above is what you say below - but again, you use the wrong word:

i believe in saying Good Morning

 

[rwb]

Thank you again for replying. I partially agree and partially disagree with your statements - but I've had to divide my replies to you into different posts due to character limit:



The above I agree with - but IMO your statement below falls short of identifying the source in full - it only partially identifies the source:



The supernatural spiritual life that shall never die is IN CHRIST - who is our life - who alone possesses that life IN HIMSELF.

"No one has seen God at any time; the Only-begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father *, He has made Him known." (John 1:18).

* The Only-begotten Son "lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see." (1 Timothy 6:16):

"He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen."

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The created human beings - Adam and Eve - did not eternally possess eternal life in themselves - it was continually given IN CHRIST - who is the Word of God who created all things

- and it was continually given through "the tree of life"

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- it is the river of the water of life that flows continually and is continually given in Christ

- the tree of life.

--- I am the vine, ye are the branches. Abide in me, and I in you, because if a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned, and as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. --- (John 15:4-6, verses rearranged).

- and we are the seed of those same created human beings.

Eternal life [zoe] is given IN CHRIST JESUS to the seed of created human beings - to those who have been born of His Spirit. (John 1:4; John 5:26; John 14:6; 1 John 5:11-12; and Colossians 3:4);

but unlike the Man Christ Jesus, life [zoe] is not something we will ever possess IN OURSELVES - for us it IS (and always will only be) IN CHRIST - hence life / eternal life never becomes the possession of the seed of created human beings that we will possess in ourselves

Life itself only exists in the Word (John 1:4) - who died for our sins and rose again from the dead and is alive forevermore

-- "I am the First and the Last, and the Living [zao] One,
and I became dead [nekros], and behold, I am alive [zao] to the ages of the ages, Amen.
And I have the keys of hades and of death." --
(Revelation 1:17-18).​

For a human being, to be immortal is to live | to be alive [zao] forever, the source of which is eternal life [zoe], which Christ alone possesses in Himself. We need to continually be drinking of the river of the water of life, which flows continually.

Jesus told those who believe in Him and belong to Him:

"I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."
(John 14:19b-20b)​

This is why Jesus also told the seed of created human beings that we must be born of the Spirit (John 3:3-8) in order to perceive, experience, and have knowledge of the Kingdom of God, which He said,

"does not come with external evidence (that can be observed). Nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For take heed, be discerning, and perceive this:

The kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:21).​

In Colossians 1:27 Paul talks about "the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints,

which is Christ IN you, the hope of glory."​

Paul also wrote, "When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory." (Colossians 3:4).

What I said above is what you say below - but again, you use the wrong word:

I agree, the life we receive through Christ is of His Spirit in us. The Spirit of Christ in living humans has quickened/is quickening (made/making alive) our spirit to live forever. Which is why Christ says whoever lives and believes in Me shall NEVER die. When Christ says we shall never die, He was speaking of our eternal spirit, telling us though our body of flesh shall die the spirit in man indwelt with His Spirit will live forever. Christ spoke these words at the time He physically resurrected Lazarus to life again.

I believe this is why Christ tarried, allowing Lazarus to succumb to physical death, that He might teach them/us that death of our body is not the end for whosoever lives and believes in Him. They believed that man could not live forever once our bodies of flesh died, without understanding man's natural bodies are all destined to die from the curse, but death of the body would not prevent believers in Christ from being alive with Him even after our mortal flesh is dead and buried. In raising Lazarus from the dead, Christ shows us that physical death for believers is as if we sleep then awake again. They believed physical death to be the cessation of all life until the physical resurrection that shall be at the last day. Christ wants us to know the life we receive from Him even after bodily death is forever.

John 11:5-6 (KJV) Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus. When he had heard therefore that he was sick, he abode two days still in the same place where he was.

John 11:11-15 (KJV) These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye may believe; nevertheless let us go unto him.

John 11:17 (KJV) Then when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four days already.

John 11:21-27 (KJV) Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

John 11:34 (KJV) And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and see.

John 11:37-45 (KJV) And some of them said, Could not this man, which opened the eyes of the blind, have caused that even this man should not have died? Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it. Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him.

 

[rwb]

We are incapable of attaining to eternal life - it is given to us IN CHRIST by God. It is a free gift.

I believe you do understand this, and forgive me please for always correcting your choice of words - but I believe the words we use are extremely important - because words have a way of causing misunderstanding in the minds of many Christians, which has resulted in, and still results in, false doctrine.

None of us are capable of attaining to eternal life without the presence of the Holy Spirit in us. I don't believe eternal life is the free gift offered to fallen man. I believe the gospel or message about Christ and what He has done for us is what is freely offered to all of mankind, and those who hear the gospel proclaimed and believe through the power of grace and the Holy Spirit are given eternal life, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."

I'm not offended with civil discourse. There is nothing you've so far said that needs my forgiveness.

His body was buried, his soul went to hades. You have omitted verse 23:

Luke 16
22 And it happened that the beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. The rich one also died and was buried.

23 And in hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented.

26 And besides all this, there is a great chasm fixed between you and us; so that they desiring to pass from here to you cannot, nor can they pass over to us from there.

Jesus did not simply say, "the rich man was simply buried".

I didn't intentionally omit vs 23. I believe this is depicting the difference between the spiritual fate of the rich man who died in unbelief, and Lazarus. Before the advent of Christ being dead and buried was to go into the place of the dead reserved for all who die in unbelief. There is no peace or comfort there, only torment. But for those who died in faith as Lazarus did were carried by the angels into the bosom of Abraham. I believe this same place in Rev 6 was to be "under the altar", waiting for the promised Messiah to come and deliver them from death.

Revelation 6:9-11 (KJV) And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

This place of Old, Abraham's bosom, under the altar is according to promise being covered by the blood of the Messiah who would come to rescue them. Christ did this through His cross and resurrection defeating both sin and death, then through His Spirit descending into the place reserved for the righteous dead called Abraham's bosom Christ took the Old Covenant captives of death, spiritual body, as living souls with Him to heaven when He ascended there.

The faithful old died believing the Word of God in whom is life - the way Noah did, the way Abraham did, and no doubt the way Seth, the son of Adam did

The Word of God is Jesus - no matter how much or little due a lack of knowledge they may have understood. They believed God - unlike Adam and Eve after the serpent contradicted the Word of God.

- and though it is not stated explicitly, I believe it is implied by Eve's words that Adam and Eve believed in the seed to come who would save them from the consequences of their rejection of the Word of God - which (rejection of the Word of God) was what they needed to have done in order to believe the "You will not surely die" lie - which is what produced their sin - their disobedience to the Word of God.

All who believed (the Word of) God were in Abraham's bosom.

Yes, I agree, Christ is the Word of God in whom eternal/immortal life is found. Those of Old who believed the Law and Prophets foretelling the promised Messiah to come indeed did believe God and were saved by grace through faith by the power of the Word and Spirit. Because Scripture tells us that faith to believe Christ comes by hearing the Word. Old those of Old who died in faith heard the Word and are saved.

Yes, all who believed the Word of God the promised Messiah who would come rested after death in Abraham's bosom.

 

[David in NJ]

None of us are capable of attaining to eternal life without the presence of the Holy Spirit in us. I believe the gospel or message about Christ and what He has done for us is what is freely offered to all of mankind, and those who hear the gospel proclaimed and believe through the power of grace and the Holy Spirit are given eternal life, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God."

@Zao is life

@rwb - 100% CORRECT and AMEN to that which is from your post above EXCEPT for the sentence i CUT OUT and have pasted below.

I don't believe eternal life is the free gift offered to fallen man.

The LORD JESUS CHRIST is the FREE GIFT of Eternal Life offered to fallen man BUT can Only be Accessed by the Will of God in bringing us to Christ AND our submission and receiving this FREE GIFT thru Faith in His Word and the Blessing/Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT

Here is the Direct Evidence = John 17:1-3
When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come.
Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may glorify You. For You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him.
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ,
whom You have sent.

 

[Zao is life]

@Zao is life

@rwb - 100% CORRECT and AMEN to that which is from your post above EXCEPT for the sentence i CUT OUT and have pasted below.



The LORD JESUS CHRIST is the FREE GIFT of Eternal Life offered to fallen man BUT can Only be Accessed by the Will of God in bringing us to Christ AND our submission and receiving this FREE GIFT thru Faith in His Word and the Blessing/Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT

Here is the Direct Evidence = John 17:1-3
When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come.
Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may glorify You. For You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him.
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ,
whom You have sent.

Yes. The gospel is the good news of salvation from sin and death and the free gift of eternal life IN CHRIST (who ALONE among human beings possesses life IN HIMSELF).

The gospel does not promise the seed of Adam and Eve that we will possess eternal life in ourselves - it promises eternal life IN CHRIST.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. The gospel is the good news of salvation from sin and death and the free gift of eternal life IN CHRIST (who ALONE among human beings possesses life IN HIMSELF).

The gospel does not promise the seed of Adam and Eve that we will possess eternal life in ourselves - it promises eternal life IN CHRIST.

HalleluYAH my Brother in CHRIST in Eternal Life which no man has!!!

That means that JESUS is "no man" but HE is "the WORD that was with GOD and was GOD"

Immanuel = God with us

So He/Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

 

[Zao is life]

HalleluYAH my Brother in CHRIST in Eternal Life which no man has!!!

There is a Man who has eternal life in Himself.

John 5
26 For just as the Father has life [zoe] in himself, thus he has granted the Son to have life [zoe] in himself,
27 and he has granted the Son authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man.

1 John 5:11-12
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life [zoe aionios]

- and this life [zoe] is in his Son.

- He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Colossians 3
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

That means that JESUS is "no man" but HE is "the WORD that was with GOD and was GOD"

Jesus is fully God and fully man - the Son of Man who represents man to God and the Son of God who represents God to man

- the only mediator between God and men - the Man, Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 2
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

Immanuel = God with us

Yep.

So He/Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

1 John 3
23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

* The One God who exists from eternity unto eternity is a Spirit (John 4:24) and the source of all existence, and all life [zoe].
* The life [zoe] that is in Him is eternal life [zoe aionios].
* God alone has/possesses life [zoe] in Himself (John 1:4; John 5:26).

There is a Man who has eternal life in Himself.

John 5
26 For just as the Father has life [zoe] in himself, thus he has granted the Son to have life [zoe] in himself,
27 and he has granted the Son authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man.

The first man, Adam, did not have eternal life in himself. The last Man, Adam, DOES:

1 Corinthians 15
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.