Trump has abandoned America First

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Riven

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Lap 2. The US military won almost every major battle in Vietnam. It was political manipulation that thwarted total victory from our own military.
Yes, the US military won many battles. But it lost the war. If we had chosen to stay and fight more, it would have ended up like Afghanistan. 20 years of fighting and dying with nothing to show for it.

You’re psychologically controlled by the ghost of Vietnam rather than the military excellence in Iraq. For instance, in the first 2 weeks, the US dropped more bombs than all 4 years of WWII. And they caught Saddam.
I pay attention to history and I notice patterns. We're supposed to learn from our mistakes.

How do you conclude the motivation is not to stop deadly fentanyl from killing Americans
Because if the goal is to prevent drugs from entering the United States, Trump would focus on the nation of Mexico instead of Venezuela. The overwhelming majority of illegal drugs, especially fentanyl, are produced in Mexico according to the DEA.

And how do you conclude the motivation is Venezuela's large abundance of oil and natural resources? Amazing fact free post. All you need is accusations and slander.
Because Venezuela has a large abundance of oil and natural resources. Do you honestly think the United States is going to engage in a full scale invasion of another country over drugs that aren't even being produced there?

There are parallels among all things in the same genus. Do you see any differences between this and the Iraq war in 2003?
Yeah. Back then we didn't realize what a disaster these regime change wars really are. And unlike in 2003, we don't have the money to try our hand at nation building again. This country is broke.
 

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Because if the goal is to prevent drugs from entering the United States, Trump would focus on the nation of Mexico instead of Venezuela
You don’t think Trump focused on Mexico?! You got to be kidding me.

Guess what? Mexico has cooperated with Trump. Not Venezuela. See the difference?
 

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Lap 2. The US military won almost every major battle in Vietnam. It was political manipulation that thwarted total victory from our own military.



You’re psychologically controlled by the ghost of Vietnam rather than the military excellence in Iraq. For instance, in the first 2 weeks, the US dropped more bombs than all 4 years of WWII. And they caught Saddam.



How do you conclude the motivation is not to stop deadly fentanyl from killing Americans?



And how do you conclude the motivation is Venezuela's large abundance of oil and natural resources? Amazing fact free post. All you need is accusations and slander.


There are parallels among all things in the same genus. Do you see any differences between this and the Iraq war in 2003?
I was told that Vietnam was informed by the UN of everything that the USA was planing, so that they were prepared beforehand to deal with how all actions of War was to be taking place.
That's why the War went on so long, because if the USA was let to take on how it did with Germany, the War in Vietnam would of been finnished a lot sooner.

Same dealings with the pathetic way the USA not to mention Australia had to deal with all of the Wars regarding all of the Arabs nonsense Afgahanistan Iraq you name it, It was all pathetic BS fighting with one hand behind their back dealing with the worst of worst dregs of what some call people !

Not to mention our people in the Australian Military were being cunningly totaly abused by morons within the top ranks and our Government !
The bastards up top tryed filthy games to play pathetic stupid idiot games on our own Military people and outright acts of malice and even slandering them.
The Head of the Military a queer inbreed jerk even trying all they could to undermine and create hatred of all of our SAS for a fact ! and the Media aided all such low life idiot attacks on our people in our Military !
Not to mention that the top dogs leading the Defence Force openly said that they hated the Aussie Men in the Defence Force ! and did not want such people, unless one was Gay as they all are up top ! or you were a woman or an Arab on non Australian. That's a fact !

It's the Government who puts deranged queers in to possitions of top Ranks in fact ! and demanded the very top priority to be demanded was for Political Correctness to be as their god ! seriously !

Same deal for the Police Service ! and that's why the people within are leaving in droves in fact ! because it's like living in a moronic control like that of Nazi Germany in fact ! being lorded over by so much stupid pathetic total BS !
But the Media will not tell the truth of why so many have had a gut full and are walking out the door for good !
It's the good people leaving and the gutless trash simplton robotic who stay on who are only hell bent on climbing the ladder!
They can not get enough Australians to become Cops nowadays, so they have to advertise to get people from other Nations to come over to be come Cops.

We even hire people from other Nations to man our Subs, because we can not get Aussies to do such ! not to mention that the Subs are total 3rd rate shocking rubbish that spend most of the time with issues that they are not in the water. and if in Dock they can so easy be a sitting target !
 

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And if the people of Denmark and Greenland want the protection of the US they should at very least allow the US to build a major military base there

This would be to prevent Russia and China from taking them over by force as Greenland is a strategic location to defend the northern hemisphere

They can let us in now, or be ignored and become our adversary when Russia and China take them over by force
The people of Greenland, like the Canadians, want to be left alone.

Filthy communication is demonic.
Cry some more.

Our own military has said if China, Russia, and all the nations in league with them all attack the US at once we would lose.
They don't want to attack us.

The Russians and the Chinese are already thinking about taking Greenland so who would you rather see occupy Greenland, them or us?
Where are you getting this from? The Russians have their hands full in Ukraine and the Chinese have their eyes on Taiwan. Those are real flashpoints.

You're obvious an amateur. China is preparing for war with the US and has been for years
They are preparing for war with Taiwan. The Chinese have no way to project force. Any attempt to attack the United States from the sea would result in the total defeat of the Chinese navy. Even attacking Taiwan is a huge risk for the Chinese navy.
 
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Not many, most. How does a country win most battles but lose the war?
By not achieving it's objectives.

You don’t think Trump focused on Mexico?! You got to be kidding me.

Guess what? Mexico has cooperated with Trump. Not Venezuela. See the difference?
There is no military build up on the southern border. Again, that's where the drugs are coming from.

Made but what about distribution?
I don't know. I'm not in the drug buisness. But I'm sure the DEA has some ideas. Ultimately, it's better to attack the source of the problem if one's intention is to stop the drugs from entering the country.

Trump has made it obvious that Venezuela situation is about oil. He ordered the US military to hijack oil tankers in the region. When asked by a reporter what we're going to do with the ship and the oil, he said we're going to keep both.

 
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Lap 3. The military achieved its objective but the civilian leaders had them stop before achieving total victory.
What objective was achieved in Vietnam and Afghanistan? In war, the objective is to win. The US military did not defeat the NVA, nor did it defeat the Taliban.
 
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What objective was achieved in Vietnam and Afghanistan? In war, the objective is to win. The US military did not defeat the NVA, nor did it defeat the Taliban.
You seem like a positive guy. Trump is great and I’m sure you only see the positive in all he says and does to MAGA.
 

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Previous post - Post 519. ------> What kind of person would post something like that on the internet?
What was the title of this thread again ,
it said TRUMP has abandoned america first again .
but what i say to one i say to all
It dont seem to matter what side a leader sits on , the right or on the left
It dont seem to matter what denomination one sits in
GOD FIRST < JESUS FIRST HAS LONG BEEN abandoned .
And i know the world was like that
buT man many churches have become that . ITS NOW lets TRUST IN MAN AGAIN
GOD has been abandoned , HIS GOPSEL abandonded
And now their idea of light is OF DARKNESS . but no marvel.
JESUS once warned IF the light that is in thee be darkness THEN G REAT is that darkness
and no marvel
cause SATAN WHO IS OF THE DARKNESS can potray himself as an angel of LIGHT
and so can his minstirs appear as men of righteousness .
THIS GENERATION is in dire deadly t rouble my friend .
 
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What was the title of this thread again ,
it said TRUMP has abandoned america first again .
but what i say to one i say to all
It dont seem to matter what side a leader sits on , the right or on the left
It dont seem to matter what denomination one sits in
GOD FIRST < JESUS FIRST HAS LONG BEEN abandoned .
And i know the world was like that
buT man many churches have become that . ITS NOW lets TRUST IN MAN AGAIN
GOD has been abandoned , HIS GOPSEL abandonded
And now their idea of light is OF DARKNESS . but no marvel.
JESUS once warned IF the light that is in thee be darkness THEN G REAT is that darkness
and no marvel
cause SATAN WHO IS OF THE DARKNESS can potray himself as an angel of LIGHT
and so can his minstirs appear as men of righteousness .
THIS GENERATION is in dire deadly t rouble my friend .
@amigo de christo
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