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Terrible isn't it, spend 415 million on new players and end up with a worse performing team
Yeah, they have lost their star power. There's no talented forward/striker that can change the flow and adapt to new situations real time on the pitch. Salah was one who could...
 

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True, where are you from?
My kingdom is not of this world . Lets get real b usy preaching JESUS and the DIRE NEED
to believe on HIM .
For many now have come to lead many away from THE FAITH
by means of a false love , a unifying force seen all over the ecumenical realm .
ITS NOT I who come to lead people from the faith , ITS THEM .
YOU N EED to see their interreligious dialgoue . ITS ALL A LIE . it always was .
THEY duped them all and now will bring this lie unto them .
 
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My kingdom is not of this world . Lets get real b usy preaching JESUS and the DIRE NEED
to believe on HIM .
For many now have come to lead many away from THE FAITH
by means of a false love , a unifying force seen all over the ecumenical realm .
ITS NOT I who come to lead people from the faith , ITS THEM .
YOU N EED to see their interreligious dialgoue . ITS ALL A LIE . it always was .
THEY duped them all and now will bring this lie unto them .
What exactly is THE FAITH, my friend? And what does it signify to have deep believe to faith in Yeshua? Certainly, both questions are charged and potentially sensitive, which is understandable. You are not obligated to respond if you feel uneasy.
 
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What exactly is THE FAITH, my friend? And what does it signify to have deep believe to faith in Yeshua? Certainly, both questions are charged and potentially sensitive, which is understandable. You are not obligated to respond if you feel uneasy.
Who we beleive is who our faith is in . So if we beleive not IN JESUS the Christ then our faith is not in THE FATHER who sent Him .
And if we believe not HIS WORDS , well then our faith be not IN HIM .
What a man loveth is what a man doeth . whether it be men who please the flesh
OR GOD , HIS WORDS , HIS WORD which has and does teach us TO DENY the lusteful desires of the f lesh .
A man can tell me all day HE loves GOD
But if a man loves NOT JESUS THE CHRIST , then HE loves NOT the Father who sent Him . so THAT JUST RULED OUT
every false religoin .
And now for another reminder
IF even a man within christendom stands and says oh i LOVE GOD , I LOVE JESUS
and yet that man twists HIS sayins , omits some of them , picks and chooses
THAT MAN LOVETH NOT GOD , NOT HIS CHRIST . HE loves the flesh and thus HE chooses
to sit under men that PANDER TO THE FLESH . NOT GOD . HOpe that helps . we need to get back
into the bible and fast and examine ourselves and see WHO and what WE TRUL Y DO LOVE .
has it been twisted doctrines of men , OR IS IT THE PURE AND HOLY words OF TRUTH , OF GOD and OF THE LAMB
that we do love . that we do honor , that we do obey from the heart .
THE SPIRIT itself , which is given ONLY TO TRUE BELEIVERS
would have surely PUT THAT LOVE UPON OUR HEARTS . TO love TRUTH is TO LOVE GOD who is T RUTH .
Thus if a man hates his words , HIS WORD , well then prepare to wail .
 

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Who we beleive is who our faith is in . So if we beleive not IN JESUS the Christ then our faith is not in THE FATHER who sent Him .
And if we believe not HIS WORDS , well then our faith be not IN HIM .
What a man loveth is what a man doeth . whether it be men who please the flesh
OR GOD , HIS WORDS , HIS WORD which has and does teach us TO DENY the lusteful desires of the f lesh .
A man can tell me all day HE loves GOD
But if a man loves NOT JESUS THE CHRIST , then HE loves NOT the Father who sent Him . so THAT JUST RULED OUT
every false religoin .
And now for another reminder
IF even a man within christendom stands and says oh i LOVE GOD , I LOVE JESUS
and yet that man twists HIS sayins , omits some of them , picks and chooses
THAT MAN LOVETH NOT GOD , NOT HIS CHRIST . HE loves the flesh and thus HE chooses
to sit under men that PANDER TO THE FLESH . NOT GOD . HOpe that helps . we need to get back
into the bible and fast and examine ourselves and see WHO and what WE TRUL Y DO LOVE .
has it been twisted doctrines of men , OR IS IT THE PURE AND HOLY words OF TRUTH , OF GOD and OF THE LAMB
that we do love . that we do honor , that we do obey from the heart .
THE SPIRIT itself , which is given ONLY TO TRUE BELEIVERS
would have surely PUT THAT LOVE UPON OUR HEARTS . TO love TRUTH is TO LOVE GOD who is T RUTH .
Thus if a man hates his words , HIS WORD , well then prepare to wail .
@amigo de christo
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Who we beleive is who our faith is in . So if we beleive not IN JESUS the Christ then our faith is not in THE FATHER who sent Him .
And if we believe not HIS WORDS , well then our faith be not IN HIM .
What a man loveth is what a man doeth . whether it be men who please the flesh
OR GOD , HIS WORDS , HIS WORD which has and does teach us TO DENY the lusteful desires of the f lesh .
A man can tell me all day HE loves GOD
But if a man loves NOT JESUS THE CHRIST , then HE loves NOT the Father who sent Him . so THAT JUST RULED OUT
every false religoin .
And now for another reminder
IF even a man within christendom stands and says oh i LOVE GOD , I LOVE JESUS
and yet that man twists HIS sayins , omits some of them , picks and chooses
THAT MAN LOVETH NOT GOD , NOT HIS CHRIST . HE loves the flesh and thus HE chooses
to sit under men that PANDER TO THE FLESH . NOT GOD . HOpe that helps . we need to get back
into the bible and fast and examine ourselves and see WHO and what WE TRUL Y DO LOVE .
has it been twisted doctrines of men , OR IS IT THE PURE AND HOLY words OF TRUTH , OF GOD and OF THE LAMB
that we do love . that we do honor , that we do obey from the heart .
THE SPIRIT itself , which is given ONLY TO TRUE BELEIVERS
would have surely PUT THAT LOVE UPON OUR HEARTS . TO love TRUTH is TO LOVE GOD who is T RUTH .
Thus if a man hates his words , HIS WORD , well then prepare to wail .
@amigo de christo
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Who said I was embarrassed?
You did in post #157:
instead of trying to embarrass me into revealing it to you here. I won't tell you, no matter how much you try to mock me.
Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant. Nevertheless, why won't you share what you know? Isn't that why most people participate in these forums - to learn more about God's word to us, and to help others to learn more too?

You don't know about those Acrostics in the Book of Esther, it is obvious. Thus you're claim in your other posts with TRYING to make others believe you know, has been CHALLENGED, and you are found wanting!
I had to remind myself (I have a poor memory). However, you claimed (in post #157 again) that:
you actually do not know that YHWH is not GOD's Name written in the Hebrew manuscripts.
yet the hidden acrostics in Esther spell out the name YHVH - יְהוָֹה‎ (backwards in Esther 1:20 and 5:13, forwards in Esther 5:4 and 7:7). There is one acrostic spelling 'I will be' (הָיָה‎) backwards in Esther 7:5. (Source hidden-codes-book-of-esther.) Perhaps that's why you refused to tell us, because you knew that you were wrong and that you were deliberately trying to mislead - it sure seems like it!
 
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John 20:17 WEB
(17) Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”​

Jesus plainly says that our God and heavenly Father (YHVH) is also Jesus' God and Father. It is therefore quite clear that Jesus is not God.

I suspect that some people get confused because Jesus is referred to as a god, and whenever the word is capitalised they think it is referring to the almighty God YHVH. But that isn't the case. God has an only begotten Son who He has appointed to rule over all of His creation, and therefore He rightly refers to His Son as a god/God. A god is a mighty ruler, but there is only one god who is almighty, mightier than all other gods, and that is our heavenly Father, YHVH. Hebrews 1:8-9 UASV

(8) But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of his kingdom.​
(9) You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions."​

God's Son is not God - obviously! The Son is not the God of himself, nor has he anointed himself!

Consider 2 Corinthians 4:4 WEB

(4) in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.​

The "god of this world" is referring to Satan. That's the same Greek word that's translated as god (theos) that's used to refer to almighty God YHVH later in the verse, which is written in the English translation with a capital G out of reverence to God. But we should not let the translator's choice of whether or not to capitalise the word god confuse us.
 

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Who we beleive is who our faith is in . So if we beleive not IN JESUS the Christ then our faith is not in THE FATHER who sent Him .
And if we believe not HIS WORDS , well then our faith be not IN HIM .
What a man loveth is what a man doeth . whether it be men who please the flesh
OR GOD , HIS WORDS , HIS WORD which has and does teach us TO DENY the lusteful desires of the f lesh .
A man can tell me all day HE loves GOD
But if a man loves NOT JESUS THE CHRIST , then HE loves NOT the Father who sent Him . so THAT JUST RULED OUT
every false religoin .
And now for another reminder
IF even a man within christendom stands and says oh i LOVE GOD , I LOVE JESUS
and yet that man twists HIS sayins , omits some of them , picks and chooses
THAT MAN LOVETH NOT GOD , NOT HIS CHRIST . HE loves the flesh and thus HE chooses
to sit under men that PANDER TO THE FLESH . NOT GOD . HOpe that helps . we need to get back
into the bible and fast and examine ourselves and see WHO and what WE TRUL Y DO LOVE .
has it been twisted doctrines of men , OR IS IT THE PURE AND HOLY words OF TRUTH , OF GOD and OF THE LAMB
that we do love . that we do honor , that we do obey from the heart .
THE SPIRIT itself , which is given ONLY TO TRUE BELEIVERS
would have surely PUT THAT LOVE UPON OUR HEARTS . TO love TRUTH is TO LOVE GOD who is T RUTH .
Thus if a man hates his words , HIS WORD , well then prepare to wail .
Indeed, we embody a way of life reflecting Christ's character and mindset that delights God, with both spirits residing within us to guide us toward this ideal. This is the faith I also trust in, hope for, and rely on daily, which is distinct and fundamentally different from the world's faith in itself and its people who belong to this 'broken' world.
 

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John 20:17 WEB
(17) Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”​

Jesus plainly says that our God and heavenly Father (YHVH) is also Jesus' God and Father. It is therefore quite clear that Jesus is not God.

I suspect that some people get confused because Jesus is referred to as a god, and whenever the word is capitalised they think it is referring to the almighty God YHVH. But that isn't the case. God has an only begotten Son who He has appointed to rule over all of His creation, and therefore He rightly refers to His Son as a god/God. A god is a mighty ruler, but there is only one god who is almighty, mightier than all other gods, and that is our heavenly Father, YHVH. Hebrews 1:8-9 UASV

(8) But of the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of his kingdom.​
(9) You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions."​

God's Son is not God - obviously! The Son is not the God of himself, nor has he anointed himself!

Consider 2 Corinthians 4:4 WEB

(4) in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.​

The "god of this world" is referring to Satan. That's the same Greek word that's translated as god (theos) that's used to refer to almighty God YHVH later in the verse, which is written in the English translation with a capital G out of reverence to God. But we should not let the translator's choice of whether or not to capitalise the word god confuse us.
It's a small g?

So which god is 2 Cor 4:4 referring to?
 
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I know you have to deflect from answering my question concerning this anyway you can, but even so, you don't have to bear false witness do you? In a previous post I said God referred to Christ with the title God in that verse. I will repeat it. In Heb 1:8 God refers to Christ with the title God. In the next verse God states he is Christ's God. So, if Christ is titled the one true God, who is the God of the one true omnipotent God? Will you answer? I very much doubt it

Your continuing to complain about your question not having been answered is just hot air. Each Bible Scripture I posted that proves Jesus Christ's place in the triune Godhead answered you. BUT YOU REJECT THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD INSTEAD TO PUSH YOUR FALSE POLITICAL AGENDA AGAINST THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE.
 

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In a previous post I said God referred to Christ with the title God in that verse. I will repeat it. In Heb 1:8 God refers to Christ with the title God. In the next verse God states he is Christ's God. So, if Christ is titled the one true God, who is the God of the one true omnipotent God? Will you answer? I very much doubt it

SEE THIS BRETHREN IN CHRIST:

Look at how saved by grace 101 tries... to change what the Hebrews 1:8 verse states, which is a quote from Psalms 45:6-7 about Christ's future reign...

Heb 1:8-9
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But unto the Son He saith, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of Thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;
therefore God, even Thy God, hath anointed Thee with the oil of gladness above Thy fellows.
KJV


That phrase "Thy throne, O God" is The FATHER saying that to The Son Jesus Christ, calling Christ as God.

But saved by grace 101 attempts vainly to REMOVE that part, and instead claim The Father was only speaking that "O God" about HIMSELF, simply because of the existence in the next verse of that "therefore God, even Thy God" phrase, pointing to The Father as Christ's God.

But thank God He gave us MANY OTHER BIBLE WITNESSES that "O God" Title The Father said to Christ Jesus is indeed meant for Jesus Christ as written. The subject of Psalms 45 and Hebrews 1 makes this obvious. And yet the Matthew 1:23 Scripture defining Christ's Title of "Emmanuel" to mean "God with us" is even MORE Biblical proof to support this Hebrews 1:8 phrase "O God" applies to Jesus Christ.

And the unbelieving JEWS even have Old Testament Scripture proving The Christ as God in that Isaiah 9:6-7 Scripture which uses the Titles "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" applied to the child referred to back in Isaiah 7:14 that was to be born of a virgin, i.e., Jesus Christ!

In my PREVIOUS POSTS here, I have given MORE THAN ONE BIBLE SCRIPTURE EXAMPLE to show Christ Jesus' place in the triune Godhead of 3 Persons, The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. And saved by grace 101 steers away from those Bible witnesses that Christ is God.
 

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You did in post #157:

I most certainly did not! You need to go over your reading comprehension. I said you were TRYING to make me feel embarrassed by not revealing God's Name from the Book of Esther to you.

I said in my post #157:

"So it's up to you to now do your own homework on that, instead of trying to embarrass me into revealing it to you here."


How long have you been accustomed to telling LIES against others? Is it just Christians that stay in God's written Word that you hate?
 

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I had to remind myself (I have a poor memory). However, you claimed (in post #157 again) that:

yet the hidden acrostics in Esther spell out the name YHVH - יְהוָֹה‎ (backwards in Esther 1:20 and 5:13, forwards in Esther 5:4 and 7:7). There is one acrostic spelling 'I will be' (הָיָה‎) backwards in Esther 7:5. (Source hidden-codes-book-of-esther.) Perhaps that's why you refused to tell us, because you knew that you were wrong and that you were deliberately trying to mislead - it sure seems like it!

Lets see, and your claim was that God's Name was what, YHWH?

How then is it, that what you discovered from the Book of Esther prove ME wrong? Are you back to telling LIES again?
 
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That phrase "Thy throne, O God" is The FATHER saying that to The Son Jesus Christ, calling Christ as God.

But saved by grace 101 attempts vainly to REMOVE that part, and instead claim The Father was only speaking that "O God" about HIMSELF,

My oh my obviously no point in chatting to you anymore, deliberately misstating what I wrote, have you no shame?
 

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John 20:17 WEB
(17) Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold me, for I haven’t yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”​

Jesus plainly says that our God and heavenly Father (YHVH) is also Jesus' God and Father. It is therefore quite clear that Jesus is not God.

That's just in YOUR OWN DECEIVED MIND that Jesus is not God.

You haven't even begun... to address the Bible Scriptures I have already shown that proves Jesus is God, and part of The Godhead as God The Son.

What does it mean when someone, ON PURPOSE, steers around those existing Scripture proofs, and instead makes FALSE STATEMENTS direct against those Scriptures as written?? It means those kind of persons are LIARS. And Apostle Paul didn't have good things to say about where the LIARS of the world will wind up when Jesus returns.
 
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Indeed, we embody a way of life reflecting Christ's character and mindset that delights God, with both spirits residing within us to guide us toward this ideal. This is the faith I also trust in, hope for, and rely on daily, which is distinct and fundamentally different from the world's faith in itself and its people who belong to this 'broken' world.
Not both spirits . THERE be only ONE SPIRIT . THE SPIRIT OF GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF
The Spirit of CHRIST . one Spirit . other than that , the rest was lovely .