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Triumph1300

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So now this administration is kidnapping sitting presidents in other countries. :rolleyes:
Let there be no further talk of law, of order, of rights.
It is a victory for Trump in Venezuala.
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It's the end of Ukraine and Taiwan.
Next: Greenland.
 
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Big Boy Johnson

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So now this administration is kidnapping sitting presidents in other countries.

Hilarious!

No, Maduro was indicted on federal charges back in 2020 for flooding our nation with drug dealing murderous gang members

Read all about it here - United States v. Nicolás Maduro

He has been arrested so he could be put on trial, not kidnapped.

I know you liberals have an affinity for drug dealing murderous gang members cause you people like your dope.



Let there be no further talk of law, of order, of rights.

We know, we know - all you liberals support the murderous drug dealers

It stands to reason since you people support killing babies (abortion)


Looks like / sounds like America First to me.

It is because we cannot allow America's enemies (China, Iran, etc) to move in to our backyard which is what Venezuela was doing in addition to flooding our nation with drug dealing murderous gang members

All Trump is doing is going back to effectively honoring the Monroe Doctrine which is what the US used to honor back in the day

the Monroe Doctrine is back!
 
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Hilarious!

No, Maduro was indicted on federal charges back in 2020 for flooding our nation with drug dealing murderous gang members

Read all about it here - United States v. Nicolás Maduro

He has been arrested so he could be put on trial, not kidnapped.
Abducting a sitting President of a sovereign nation is a violation of international law. Furthermore, this will do nothing but create a power vacuum that will be filled by another Maduro-like figure.
 

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It is because we cannot allow America's enemies (China, Iran, etc) to move in to our backyard which is what Venezuela was doing in addition to flooding our nation with drug dealing murderous gang members

All Trump is doing is going back to effectively honoring the Monroe Doctrine which is what the US used to honor back in the day

the Monroe Doctrine is back!

I’m a resident alien.
 

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Abducting a sitting President of a sovereign nation is a violation of international law. Furthermore, this will do nothing but create a power vacuum that will be filled by another Maduro-like figure.
Thank you for your support of a total criminal ! who kills how many People in the USA, not to mention in his own Nation ! or the Hell he has cause in how many peoples lives !
Is it that you clearly could not give a cracker for such people ! or are you a drug dealer ?
 

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This video sums it up nicely.
Of course I know some of you , Trump loving prosperity preaching Christians, will not watch it.
But that's ok.
In the end most people will actually see the truth.

 
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This video sums it up nicely.
Of course I know some of you , Trump loving prosperity preaching Christians, will not watch it.
But that's ok.
In the end most people will actually see the truth.

Mr. Sachs is the voice of reason.

This was all about the oil. The Trump admin said they're going to "run Venezuela" until someone else takes over. That means a full scale military occupation. Iraq 2.0.

 
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Abducting a sitting President of a sovereign nation is a violation of international law.

The United States goes by our own Constitution and our national defense come way way before international law

If you liberals had your way, the US would give up it's sovereignty and become a communist state that licks the boots of communist china who the liberals see as heroes and role models.


this will do nothing but create a power vacuum that will be filled by another Maduro-like figure.

No, Venezuela is not full if moslems.

They are smart enough to want peace and want to have a good economy so this will work out much better than in the middle east.

Of course you liberals are required to tow the party line and do all the fear mongering you can on every outlet possible.

Your boy Maduro over played his hand.
 

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The United States goes by our own Constitution and our national defense come way way before international law.
Then the United States is in no position to criticize Russia for violating international law by invading Ukraine.

No, Venezuela is not full if moslems.

They are smart enough to want peace and want to have a good economy so this will work out much better than in the middle east.
Give me one example of this regime change policy leading to success.
 
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Then the United States is in no position to criticize Russia for violating international law by invading Ukraine.

Russia was acting in their own perceived self defense as we are.

After the Soviet Union fell, NATO promised to not have countries bordering Russia to become NATO members or to be used by NATO for military build up which Russia perceived as being a threat to their national security.

In the follow years NATO and the US both sought to get these boarding countries in to NATO or otherwise use them for military build up which is what was going on in Ukraine.

So the west caused what is going on now.


Give me one example of this regime change policy leading to success.

Feel free to believe the US has not done any good in the world.

You liberals will never admit it because you people claim the US is evil and as such liberals should be deported or at very least sent to re-education camps or to psychiatric care facilities
 

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This video sums it up nicely.
Of course I know some of you , Trump loving prosperity preaching Christians, will not watch it.
But that's ok.
In the end most people will actually see the truth.

Well, we don't want the TRUTH and SANITY to get in the way of demented individuals.
 

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Russia was acting in their own perceived self defense as we are.

After the Soviet Union fell, NATO promised to not have countries bordering Russia to become NATO members or to be used by NATO for military build up which Russia perceived as being a threat to their national security.

In the follow years NATO and the US both sought to get these boarding countries in to NATO or otherwise use them for military build up which is what was going on in Ukraine.

So the west caused what is going on now.
I agree.

Feel free to believe the US has not done any good in the world.
Why do you put up a straw man instead of offering an example of regime change being successful like I asked for? Be a big boy and just admit that there are no examples.

You liberals
Disagree with Big Boy = liberal. Very profound indeed.

In other news, Trump has confirmed what those of us with a pulse already knew: It wasn't about drugs. It was about the oil.

"The US president wants American oil firms to pile billions of dollars into the South American country, which has the largest crude oil reserves on the planet, to mobilise the largely untapped resource."

 
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Big Boy Johnson

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Wrong. Saying Trump puts himself first is NOT attacking Trump's policies; its attacking him personally.

Trump is mostly big boy so he can take care of himself.


The other is attacking a person's character by saying they're deranged. It's the definition of ad hominem and it's something Trump does very often when he's losing the debate.

Trump is just doing what the liberals do right back at them.

It's pretty funny to see liberals get all bent out of shape when Trump calls them names. Hilarious! laughing15.gif

Liberals deserve it.


Fair enough. But it isn't deranged to say that Trump puts Trump first.

He's no different than the liberals

Liberals always put liberals first


it’s so rich that when Trump fights back, the Left claims to be a victim.

Yep, much of what Trump is doing to liberals is payback that the liberals deserve and have coming.

Liberals can dish it out but they can't take it. Liberals are sissies and lightweights


So now this administration is kidnapping sitting presidents in other countries.

Maduro is a criminal and he was apprehended, taken in to custody

He will spend the rest of his life at a federal supermax prison which is what he deserves for crimes against US citizens.
 

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The United States goes by our own Constitution and our national defense come way way before international law

If you liberals had your way, the US would give up it's sovereignty and become a communist state that licks the boots of communist china who the liberals see as heroes and role models.




No, Venezuela is not full if moslems.

They are smart enough to want peace and want to have a good economy so this will work out much better than in the middle east.

Of course you liberals are required to tow the party line and do all the fear mongering you can on every outlet possible.

Your boy Maduro over played his hand.
We are no longer a "constitutional" country, at least Trump doesn't think so as he say's to a congressman recently when the congressman asked about the constitution, Trump say's "What are you whining about"!! You surely did not watch the video...that is in the first
What law is is that applies to a dictator who stays in office after his term expired?
Who cares what law applies to a dictator, we are not a LAWLESS country, at least we used to not be. The one who is occupying the office of president of the U.S. acts, looks and TALKS like a dictator. It is clear as day to a logical person that he definitely wants to be a, dictator.
 
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Who cares what law applies to a dictator, we are not a LAWLESS country, at least we used to not be. The one who is occupying the office of president of the U.S. acts, looks and TALKS like a dictator. It is clear as day to a logical person that he definitely wants to be a, dictator.
TDS. I provided the law authorizing POTUS to act. Did you read it?

Claims that his actions are illegal lack an actual citation. When questioned on the factual basis for your claim is who cares. Wow, Guilt by accusation.

The lawlessness is on the Left, supposing there is no such thing as illegal immigration.
 

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TDS. I provided the law authorizing POTUS to act. Did you read it?

Claims that his actions are illegal lack an actual citation. When questioned on the factual basis for your claim is who cares. Wow, Guilt by accusation.

The lawlessness is on the Left, supposing there is no such thing as illegal immigration.
YOU SAID:
"What law is is that applies to a dictator who stays in office after his term expired?" <---THIS is what I was commenting on, clearly. I would expect a dictator like Maduro to break international law, and up till this administration, I would also have expected BETTER from our country.