Let's examine Revelation 20:4 yet again.

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Dear Sister,

The doctrine of "we are in satan's little season" is of Satan and it is a LIE

Dan_7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

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(Chaldee); from H2165; the same as H2165: - season, time.
Total KJV occurrences: 11
 

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Dan_7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

H2166
זְמָן
zemân
zem-awn'
(Chaldee); from H2165; the same as H2165: - season, time.
Total KJV occurrences: 11
The word rendered “think” signifies to keep in mind or to intend to do something. To change times and laws is the prerogative of Yahweh alone, as Daniel records in Daniel 2:21. There, the term “times” refers to changes in the course of history, which are under Yahweh’s control: “He has determined the times before appointed” in relation to the nations (Acts 17:26).

However, Catholicism has arrogated to itself the divine right to alter the course of history. Through its political interference with nations, it seeks to shape events according to its own policies and whims. The expression, therefore, also applies to the Papacy’s claim, by supposed divine authority, to direct the course of history through political machinations.

The word “laws” is singular in the Chaldee, but used collectively. The Papacy assumes the divine right to change laws or decrees at will. Its policies are often devious, supporting one thing today and opposing it tomorrow. It attempts to alter national “times” and adjust “laws” to align with its political and ecclesiastical agenda, securing its authority and continuity. In this, however, it will ultimately fail.
 

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Dan_7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

H2166
זְמָן
zemân
zem-awn'
(Chaldee); from H2165; the same as H2165: - season, time.
Total KJV occurrences: 11
Which season?
Will he have power thru 'HARRP' and other technology to alter the weather to such a point that the actual seasons change?
Could this be part of 2 Thess 2:9 ???

Changing laws = we understand = Revelation chapters 12&13
 

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Which season?
Will he have power thru 'HARRP' and other technology to alter the weather to such a point that the actual seasons change?

I meant change season like we are in the little season but it being a lie.
 

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like a five pointed pebble in a shoe on a twenty mile walk . VERY PAINFUL INDEED it is . As in VERY
as in time to take that pebble OU TTA that shoe .
Have a blessed day now . This people seems to desire the love of a lie rather than the LOVE of the Truth .
And thus always work to omit the dire reminders of just how DIRE NECESSARY it is TO BELEIVE ON JESUS .
Cause just as eternal life is real and ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST
so too is eternal damantion , which all who rejected HIM will surely face .
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Dear Sister,

The doctrine of "we are in satan's little season" is of Satan and it is a LIE

JESUS Said: "See that no one deceives you" - Matt 24:4

TRUTH FACT = If the "Mystery of God" was "finished", you could not be SAVED
Satan's little season will be at the end of the millennium , as we agree, except that I believe the millennium rule of Christ is now, this age......I don't know if Satan's little season spoken of is quite here yet, but these are at least the days leading up to it, I believe. The "nations" (Gentiles) which once were Christian are being deceived by Satan as we speak, true? And doesn't Christendom resemble Sodoma and Gomorrah these days? (to the Jew first, then the Gentile)

Did you see how in Rom 9, where it says He will "FINISH the work and cut it short in righteousness" is linked to the destruction of Jerusalem/Israel which was to shortly occur in 70AD? John in Revelation wrote that Jerusalem was likened to Sodom and Egypt.

The mystery of God.......the gospel of the new covenant was finished being established and instituted.in 70AD, as that is the time the old covenant was completely finished with. The things prophesied to Israel ((eg, Daniel) surrounding the messiah and gospel (new covenant) and things to do with it being established were finished in 70AD. Terms (like "finish", or "earth") mean and apply to what God intends by them, not what we may assume they mean and apply to because of how we usually speak colloquially. Finishing the work I believe was God finishing with unbelieving Israel and old covenant, and giving the gospel to the Gentiles as prophesied, who it was hoped would produce the fruits thereof. It doesn't mean finishing 'with' the gospel and new covenant (Mystery of God), but I believe it means to finish establishing it, to COMPLETE it, by fulfilling the prophecies and being finished with the old covenant and old wineskin (Israel), so to speak.

The time from Jesus to 70AD was a transitional time for the old covenant in which it was old and obsolete and "fading away". It was Israel's last days and THEIR "end time". But after the judgment of 70AD the OC was no longer fading away, but gone...the Lord was completely done with it and no longer accepting it. There was no longer an Israel to preach the gospel to, so it went almost entirely to the Gentiles from then on, in accordance with that whole CONTEXT of "He will finish the work" in Rom 9. Please do look at the context of Rom 9 surrounding v. 27-29 brother....I hadn't noticed it until yesterday morning, by God's grace.....another piece of the puzzle for me thankfully, because I always have such great difficulty with Revelation.

The book of Revelation seems to me to be all about the glorious and powerful gospel of Christ and gospel age, the establishment and fulfillment of it.......it is like a reiteration, summation and confirmation of all the scriptures and prophecies that came before it.....and Satan's little season almost comes across to me like a little footnote at the end. We must not be like the world and ignore and dismiss what happened to Israel in the first century....it was HUGE, prophetically and apocalyptically. If I'm not mistaken I think Josephus, a Jewish historian, was the only one to bother writing about it...correct me if I'm wrong but to my knowledge there are no other historical accounts in any detail that I have heard of. It seems to have been largely hidden in the mists of time....and yet was HUGELY significant and pivotal in terms of God and His prophecies and the gospel. How like Him to REVEAL what was hidden. It's like He revealed it in the book of Revelation before it happened.....the early church, which was Jewish, would have understood it very well, I believe. And Jesus had warned them to flee Jerusalem before it all came crashing down. Two thousand years later, we have to try and put ourselves in their shoes at that time, to try and understand as they would have understood it.
 
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I meant change season like we are in the little season but it being a lie.
Yes, that part i understood - thank you = and this does agree with scripture

Also we have things such as "tax season" christmas and easter = these could all be rearranged as well.

christmas may even be one of the "seasons" that has already been changed as Christ was not born in December
 

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Satan's little season will be at the end of the millennium , as we agree, except that I believe the millennium rule of Christ is now, this age....
Every TRUTH of GOD Begins from His Mouth = Matthew 4:4

Every LIE of Satan begins from his mouth = John 8:44

GOD Spoke First in Genesis chapters 1 thru 2

Satan spoke next in Genesis chapter 3

How do you know who is speaking to you, Lizbeth???

Here is how i KNOW = Matthew 4:4


By the Word of GOD = it is IMPOSSIBLE that we are in the 1,000 Year Millennium = for GOD never lies

GOD has Spoken to you Lizbeth and to all of us = John 6:35-40

And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up at the last day.
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.


Anyone who reject the words of CHRIST will automatically believe in error!!!

On any given subject that proceeds from the Mouth of GOD, we either believe God's words or error.
 
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Every TRUTH of GOD Begins from His Mouth = Matthew 4:4

Every LIE of Satan begins from his mouth = John 8:44

GOD Spoke First in Genesis chapters 1 thru 2

Satan spoke next in Genesis chapter 3

How do you know who is speaking to you, Lizbeth???

Here is how i KNOW = Matthew 4:4


By the Word of GOD = it is IMPOSSIBLE that we are in the 1,000 Year Millennium = for GOD never lies

GOD has Spoken to you Lizbeth and to all of us = John 6:35-40

And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing,
but should raise it up at the last day.
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.


Anyone who reject the words of CHRIST will automatically believe in error!!!

On any given subject that proceeds from the Mouth of GOD, we either believe God's words or error.
I do not in any way reject the words of Christ, but we need to understand what He was saying in spirit, do we not? Needing ears to hear.

I believe Jesus was talking to Israel FIRST, the the Gentile. "To the Jew first, then the Gentile" is from the mouth of God. There was a last day for Israel of old, wasn't there.... just as there will be a last day for the Gentiles. Israel was judged first, and the Gentiles/world/nations are fast approaching their judgment, I believe, in the end of this age.
 

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I do not in any way reject the words of Christ, but we need to understand what He was saying in spirit, do we not? Needing ears to hear.

I believe Jesus was talking to Israel FIRST, the the Gentile. "To the Jew first, then the Gentile" is from the mouth of God. There was a last day for Israel of old, wasn't there.... just as there will be a last day for the Gentiles. Israel was judged first, and the Gentiles/world/nations are fast approaching their judgment, I believe, in the end of this age.
YES = the Gospel was to Israel first but NOTICE what JESUS Said BEFORE He went to the Cross

Matthew 24:14 - And this Gospel will be preached to ALL nations and then the end will come.

GOD did not establish a "last day" for Israel.
Israel rejected CHRIST/Salvation = not vice versa!!!

GOD has always kept a remnant of Jews AND a remnant of Gentiles = Romans 11:1-6

I ask then, did God reject His people? Certainly not! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
God did not reject His people, whom He foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says about Elijah, how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars. I am the only one left, and they are seeking my life as well”?

And what was the divine reply to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

In the same way, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.
And if it is by grace, then it is no longer by works. Otherwise, grace would no longer be grace.

Since Israel must come to Repentance, and they will = at His Second Coming = Matthew 23:37-39

You and i are waiting for the First Resurrection = John 6:35-40 and Revelation 20:4-6

"satan's little season now" and "amil today" are both major error and falsehood
 
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YES = the Gospel was to to Israel first but NOTICE what JESUS Said BEFORE He went to the Cross

Matthew 24:14 - And this Gospel will be preached to ALL nations and then the end will come.

GOD did not establish a "last day" for Israel.
Israel rejected CHRIST/Salvation = not vice versa!!!

GOD has always kept a remnant of Jews AND a remnant of Gentiles = Romans 11:1-6

I ask then, did God reject His people? Certainly not! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
God did not reject His people, whom He foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says about Elijah, how he appealed to God against Israel: “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars. I am the only one left, and they are seeking my life as well”?

And what was the divine reply to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

In the same way, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.
And if it is by grace, then it is no longer by works. Otherwise, grace would no longer be grace.

Since Israel must come to Repentance, and they will = at His Second Coming = Matthew 23:37-39

You and i are waiting for the First Resurrection = John 6:35-40 and Revelation 20:4-6

"satan's little season now" and "amil today" are both major error and falsehood
The gospel had been preached to all the inhabited Gentile world of that era by 70AD had it not?....according to the epistles and the Rev letters to the seven churches. But after 70AD it went wholesale to the Gentiles and no longer to Israel because Israel no longer was. The faithful remnant of believing Jews who were left remaining alive from the persecution fled Jerusalem and Israel as per Jesus' prophetic instruction and went to Gentile lands.

Israel's judgment had been prophesied....not that it was God's express will, but according to His foreknowledge. Israel sadly died in childbirth one could say, like Rachel foreshadowed this. Israel gave birth to the Messiah and His church before her travail/tribulation/birth pangs/sorrows came upon her in 70AD.

Isa 66:6-8

“A voice of uproar from the city, a voice from the temple,
The voice of the LORD who is rendering recompense to His enemies.

“Before she travailed, she brought forth;
Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.

“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be [fn]born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons. (those believing Jews who fled Jerusalem)

The bible says we have "part" in the first resurrection, so I would say we waiting for our "part" in it.
 

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The gospel had been preached to all the inhabited Gentile world of that era by 70AD had it not?....according to the epistles and the Rev letters to the seven churches. But after 70AD it went wholesale to the Gentiles and no longer to Israel because Israel no longer was. The faithful remnant of believing Jews who were left remaining alive from the persecution fled Jerusalem and Israel as per Jesus' prophetic instruction and went to Gentile lands.

Israel's judgment had been prophesied....not that it was God's express will, but according to His foreknowledge. Israel sadly died in childbirth one could say, like Rachel foreshadowed this. Israel gave birth to the Messiah and His church before her travail/tribulation/birth pangs/sorrows came upon her in 70AD.

Isa 66:6-8

“A voice of uproar from the city, a voice from the temple,
The voice of the LORD who is rendering recompense to His enemies.

“Before she travailed, she brought forth;
Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.

“Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be [fn]born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons. (those believing Jews who fled Jerusalem)

We must believe His words = Matthew ch24 and John 6:35-40

JESUS Prophecy of Matthew 24:14 includes His Second Coming = "Gospel preached to every nation UNTIL the END"
The END is the "Last Day" when CHRIST Returns/2nd Coming for the Resurrection = Matthew 24:29-31 and John 6:35-40

The bible says we have "part" in the first resurrection, so I would say we waiting for our "part" in it.
YES YES YES
The First Resurrection is only for all whom the FATHER Calls to CHRIST = John 6:35-40

CHRIST will not Return until JESUS Prophecy of John 6:35-40 is completed.

When the FATHER is satisfied with the Gospel to all nations and the FATHER has Secured all whom HE places in CHRIST, then the END Comes = CHRIST 2nd Coming


CHRIST did not Return in 70AD

CHRIST is Coming Soon and HE is bringing all the Saints with Him = 1 Thessalonians 3:11-13 , 4 13-18 , Jude 1:14 , Zech 14:5

THINK TRUTH = If CHRIST had come in 70AD then we are lost in our sins and we have missed the Resurrection.

Believe the TRUTH = 2 Timothy 2:14-19
Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness.
And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

Believe the TRUTH = 1 Corinthians 15:20-24
But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
Then comes the end,
 

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We must believe His words = Matthew ch24 and John 6:35-40

JESUS Prophecy of Matthew 24:14 includes His Second Coming = "Gospel preached to every nation UNTIL the END"
The END is the "Last Day" when CHRIST Returns/2nd Coming for the Resurrection = Matthew 24:29-31 and John 6:35-40


YES YES YES
The First Resurrection is only for all whom the FATHER Calls to CHRIST = John 6:35-40

CHRIST will not Return until JESUS Prophecy of John 6:35-40 is completed.

When the FATHER is satisfied with the Gospel to all nations and the FATHER has Secured all whom HE places in CHRIST, then the END Comes = CHRIST 2nd Coming


CHRIST did not Return in 70AD

CHRIST is Coming Soon and HE is bringing all the Saints with Him = 1 Thessalonians 3:11-13 , 4 13-18 , Jude 1:14 , Zech 14:5

THINK TRUTH = If CHRIST had come in 70AD then we are lost in our sins and we have missed the Resurrection.

Believe the TRUTH = 2 Timothy 2:14-19
Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness.
And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

Believe the TRUTH = 1 Corinthians 15:20-24
But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
Then comes the end,
God/Jesus/scripture are speaking in spirit, not two-dimensionally like we speak day to day about earthly things (and if the Lord gives a word through a human vessel they also are speaking in spirit). We're told to compare spiritual with spiritual in the scriptures....doesn't that TELL us the scriptures are speaking in spirit?

Fear not brother, I am not saying "our" resurrection is past.....I believe (and am testing) at this point that all believers who came after the first century are part of the "rest of the dead" (when we die) who will be resurrected at the end of this age. Jesus will indeed be coming to gather us to Himself, and to judge the "world"...Gentiles.

Do you see how even Jerusalem being "surrounded by armies" is the same as the camp of the saints being "compassed about" in Rev 20...? Both are describing a siege, and Rev is confirming or reiterating what Jesus said. I believe these were prophesying BOTH Jerusalem being under siege at the end of that age, as well as how it will ALSO be in the end of this age concerning the church, which is mostly Gentile....like a dual fulfillment. It happened to the Jews FIRST...and then later will happen concerning the Gentiles..
 

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Verse 5 “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.”

This statement cannot refer to those who died before Christ’s coming, for vast multitudes of them will never rise from the grave (Ps 49:19–20; 88:5; Isa. 26:14; Eph. 2:12). Yet the passage before us indicates that a particular class will rise from the dead at the conclusion of Christ’s thousand-year reign.

Nor can it refer to the responsible wicked, since they will rise together with the righteous at Christ’s coming for judgment (Dan. 12:2; Matt. 13:49–50; 26:64; Luke 12:8–9; 13:24–30; Rom. 2:6–12, 16).

The “dead” mentioned in this verse, therefore, can only refer to those who die after Christ’s return, during his millennial reign. Scripture indicates that death will continue during the Millennium (Isa 65:20; Ezek 44:22).

The redeemed are described as “the firstfruits” (James 1:18), implying that they constitute only a portion of the total harvest, with the remainder gathered during Christ’s reign on the earth. The force of this statement appears to be that no further admission to immortality will occur until “the thousand years are finished.”

Thus, “the rest of the dead” refers to those who die during the Millennium.

For example. Adam was a mortal and almost lived an entire 1K years. Why then would it be unreasonable to think that mortals can live an entire 1K years in the future? Except some of you have mortals dying all throughout the millennium even though it's not until after the millennium any mortals die(Revelation 20:9).

The rest of the dead are meaning the dead before the millennium, the fact they don't live again until after the millennium. Those in Revelation 20:9 are not dead during the millennium. They are alive during the millennium since they just don't pop out of nowhere all of a sudden, after the millennium.
 
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Dan_7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

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(Chaldee); from H2165; the same as H2165: - season, time.
Total KJV occurrences: 11

I understood David to be referring to the little season mentioned in Revelation 20:3, which many Christians always equate with the times, times and a half a time you are referring to.
 

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God/Jesus/scripture are speaking in spirit, not two-dimensionally like we speak day to day about earthly things (and if the Lord gives a word through a human vessel they also are speaking in spirit). We're told to compare spiritual with spiritual in the scriptures....doesn't that TELL us the scriptures are speaking in spirit?

Fear not brother, I am not saying "our" resurrection is past.....I believe (and am testing) at this point that all believers who came after the first century are part of the "rest of the dead" (when we die) who will be resurrected at the end of this age. Jesus will indeed be coming to gather us to Himself, and to judge the "world"...Gentiles.

Both are describing a siege, and Rev is confirming or reiterating what Jesus said. I believe these were prophesying BOTH Jerusalem being under siege at the end of that age, as well as how it will ALSO be in the end of this age concerning the church, which is mostly Gentile....like a dual fulfillment. It happened to the Jews FIRST...and then later will happen concerning the Gentiles..
Rev 20:5 "the rest of the dead" are NOT part of the First Resurrection

Do you see how even Jerusalem being "surrounded by armies" is the same as the camp of the saints being "compassed about" in Rev 20...?
Absolutely NOT the same = No way, No how!!!

70AD Jerusalem was destined for destruction because they rejected the SON of GOD.

The "CAMP of the Saints" in Rev 20 are the Resurrected Saints = No Judgment upon them!!!

Think my Sister in CHRIST = Think TRUTH
Did FIRE come down from Heaven in 70AD and destroy the Roman Army??? = Absolutely NOT


They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Satan/the Devil, is NOT locked up AND he is NOT in the Lake of Fire AND neither are the Beast and False Prophet

These words that i am speaking to you Lizbeth, they are spirit and they are life for these are the words of GOD.

Falsehood is = "we are in satan's little season now/today"


 
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I understood David to be referring to the little season mentioned in Revelation 20:3, which many Christians always equate with the times, times and a half a time you are referring to.
me or the other David's ???
 

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For example. Adam was a mortal and almost lived an entire 1K years. Why then would it be unreasonable to think that mortals can live an entire 1K years in the future? Except some of you have mortals dying all throughout the millennium even though it's not until after the millennium any mortals die(Revelation 20:9).

The rest of the dead are meaning the dead before the millennium, the fact they don't live again until after the millennium. Those in Revelation 20:9 are not dead during the millennium. They are alive during the millennium since they just don't pop out of nowhere all of a sudden, after the millennium.

IMO the trouble with all these views is two-fold:

1. The words of Jesus in the gospels, of the apostles in Acts and in the epistles, and in Revelation 11:18 places the judgment of all the dead at the time of the return of Christ.

2. There are other themes in the Revelation and statements in the epistles (for example 2 Peter 3:10-14) that place the commencement of the New Heavens and New Earth immediately afterward.

Plus there is the fact that:

(a) The words "but the remainder [G3062 loipoy] of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished." (Revelation 20:5a)

- are not found in the Bible’s oldest Greek manuscript of the Revelation, the Codex Sinaiticus. Nor are they found in the oldest Aramaic manuscript, the Khabouris Codex.

(b) The words are listed as spurious in Tischendorf "List of spurious texts".

(c) The words appear to contradict the scriptures that talk about a day when the dead are raised:

"God has set A DAY on which he is going to judge the world in righteousness, by a man whom he designated, having provided proof to everyone by raising him from the dead."
(Acts 17:31).

(d) Omitting the sentence does not affect the meaning of what is being said regarding the souls John saw, who had been beheaded:

"and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:4-6, with the sentence omitted).

Many Bible translators believe the words regarding "the rest of the dead" are an interpolation - words which were first written as notes by scribes on the sides or under the text of some of the Byzantine manuscripts, and were copied into the text by later scribes who were not sure whether or not the words "should be" in the text (following the principle: "An accidental addition (if that's the case) is better than a deliberate omission, bearing Revelation 22:18-19 in mind").

Whatever the case may be, that first part of the sentence in Revelation 20:5a cannot be used as an argument for anything regarding Premillennialism or regarding the judgment of the dead - i.e regarding "the rest of the dead" being judged later, at the time of Revelation 20:11-15, when Revelation 11:18 and all Jesus's statements and later statements by the apostles regarding the Day of Judgment imply otherwise.

- also because of point # 2 at the top of this post.

These things are facts, not a matter of interpretation.
 
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me or the other David's ???

You. @ewq1938 was quoting your post and I searched for it but it's become a needle in a haystack already.

Here's his post that I was replying to where he quoted your post:

 
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