So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

[rockytopva]

You're kidding right?

An interesting humor for a servant from the other side of the globe, thank you.

Based on scripture in context, James is pro-Israelites for their salvation and Paul is pro-Gentiles for their salvation.

They had their differences based on the Gentile believer's matter Paul brought to Peter, until Peter had to step in to conclude the matter.

And when James sent his party of men to look for Peter, upon seeing them Peter got up from the table he was dinning with the Gentiles.

(Looks like the church in Jerusalem are unsure about Gentile believers and their salvation, as likewise Peter was prior at Simon the tanner's house in Joppa)

This offended Paul very much and he rebuked Peter then and there openly, and just imagine his friendship with James will turn out to be.

Looks like Paul stand to no nonsense, even he had a dispute with Barnabas in regards Mark, and as a result they parted ways.

Therefore to conclude, there's no way James and Paul can get along well even to have a lot of interesting conversation together, nevertheless a short one yes.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.

Paul - Knew very little of the life of Jesus
James - Being the Lord's brother... Knew a whole lot more!

I would say Paul had a lot of questions for James!

 

[Fred J]

Paul - Knew very little of the life of Jesus
James - Being the Lord's brother... Knew a whole lot more!

I would say Paul had a lot of questions for James!

Don't get me wrong but there's no account of that in the scripture, even to them breaking bread.

 

[rockytopva]

Don't get me wrong but there's no account of that in the scripture, even to them breaking bread.

Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. - Mark 6:3

But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. - Galatians 1:19

 

[Aunty Jane]

Therefore after Jesus the promised one, Joseph and Mary became normal married couple and furthermore fruitful parents.

Jesus had 3 brothers and 2 sisters, looks like after Jesus the 'firstborn', Joseph and Mary became crazy in love with each other and made more babies.

Hallelujah in Jesus name!

But ironically certain denominations claim, Mary died a virgin and the other kids were of their relatives and are Jesus' cousins.

Very disturbing....

Those who think Mary and Joseph had no more children, have an agenda....in order to keep Mary a virgin, it fits in with what they adopted as a way to venerate Mary as someone other than what she really was. She was the mother of Jesus and that is all the Bible says about her.

Even if Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived, she would certainly not be so physically, after his birth. Mother goddess worship was actually grafted over Mary, giving her almost equal status with her son.

There was no Scriptural reason for Mary and Joseph to remain celibate as the Scriptures clearly state that Joseph did not have relations with his wife until after the birth of the child who had no earthly father.

It is disturbing to imagine that the church in question can graft things over biblical accounts to make them seem to say what they never did. And if they can slip in something like that...what else have they grafted over Scripture to say what it never taught.
We know that the Protestant Reformation changed many things that were formerly believed in the CC, but did the purging go far enough?

 

[Taken]

So Joseph married Mary but didn’t have sex?

Of course they had sex!

They were Chosen AND Accepted Gods Plan For Them… to Obey Gods Word…
Procreation … man and woman Join together and multiply.

They “Joseph and Mary” Accepted the established WAIT time to consummate their marriage AND the Traditional wait time to engage in marital sex after the delivered birth of a son.

Totality… 9 months (average pregnancy) + 40 days after birth of a son.
Lev. 12:1-4

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

You're kidding right?

An interesting humor for a servant from the other side of the globe, thank you.

Based on scripture in context, James is pro-Israelites for their salvation and Paul is pro-Gentiles for their salvation.

They had their differences based on the Gentile believer's matter Paul brought to Peter, until Peter had to step in to conclude the matter.

And when James sent his party of men to look for Peter, upon seeing them Peter got up from the table he was dinning with the Gentiles.

(Looks like the church in Jerusalem are unsure about Gentile believers and their salvation, as likewise Peter was prior at Simon the tanner's house in Joppa)

This offended Paul very much and he rebuked Peter then and there openly, and just imagine his friendship with James will turn out to be.

Looks like Paul stand to no nonsense, even he had a dispute with Barnabas in regards Mark, and as a result they parted ways.

Therefore to conclude, there's no way James and Paul can get along well even to have a lot of interesting conversation together, nevertheless a short one yes.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord.

And thusly, "they had many interesting conversations......"

 

[Fred J]

But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. - Galatians 1:19

Okay i surrender, you've had me at this verse, before reading your post this verse came to mind yesterday and i looked it through.

Apparently they would have had conversation with each other during the fifteen days, and surely Jesus' topic would be an interesting one.

i believe for James, as Jesus was the big brother and moreover his transformation came from Jesus, and that'll be his cherished moments to bring to the table.

And for Paul, as a person born outside of wedlock sort of, and where he didn't get to meet Jesus, wish he would, would eager to know from James.

And not forgetting Peter as well who lived with Jesus for more than 3 years on a personal level, the good and bad moments he had with the disciples, Israelites and Jesus, would be a subject on the table as well.

But prior Paul did not meet Jesus, i don't think so, he would have occasionally and time to time, mainly in Jerusalem or the Temple, a loose canon to be put to death.

Since Jesus by the Sanhedrin was known as a heretic, a blasphemer and He did it openly for everyone to see.

Moreover, Jesus regularly confronted the Pharisees and they did Him in Jerusalem and on the Temple ground.

Paul was a student since young of Gamaliel a Sanhedrin at that time, and became a Pharisee himself, surely he would had the same encounter being with them.

And he moved up the rank as chief persecutor, and after Jesus he targeted the Apostles and church saints, and Stephen was his first victim.

Only thing his confession after being saved that he didn't get to meet the Lord, probably based on a personal level as the disciples did.

And i believe the term he used, 'someone born outside of wedlock', meaning, he was 'born again' at the wrong time and place and missed the chance to witness and know the Lord on a personal level.

Who won't be?

Personally as a commoner and if am not born again, i would see Jesus in the carnal and worldly lens, 'a man who have serious issues and He's asking for trouble.

Besides that whatever he says and does from then on, i would not listen, ignore and stay away from, same as Saul would before becoming Paul.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Fred J]

Those who think Mary and Joseph had no more children, have an agenda....in order to keep Mary a virgin, it fits in with what they adopted as a way to venerate Mary as someone other than what she really was. She was the mother of Jesus and that is all the Bible says about her.

Well done Ms Jane, you put a smile on my face!

Noted and furthermore, 'the mother of our Lord', proclaimed Elisabeth herself having the Holy Ghost.

And, 'a blessed woman among all other women', the world will remember her as.

Based on the saying of this world, 'she would have rolled over her grave' witnessing heresy about her.

But in her case the extend of heresy about her, 'she would have rolled many times' in disgust unable to stop them.

Even if Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived, she would certainly not be so physically, after his birth. Mother goddess worship was actually grafted over Mary, giving her almost equal status with her son.

i believe it is the Greek paganism god and goddess, adopted by the Romans, and brought back again by Constantine and continued by one of the split church in the Roman empire that became the CC.

There was no Scriptural reason for Mary and Joseph to remain celibate as the Scriptures clearly state that Joseph did not have relations with his wife until after the birth of the child who had no earthly father.

True!

The latest discovery of Ron Wyatt finding the blood substance on the 'Mercy Seat' of the Ark of the Covenant is one thing.

And the same blood that he sent to the lab in Israel, miraculously had 'living cells' in it to produce results.

And truly enough it had no 'male chromosomes' at all, but rather only female chromosomes.

And the lab technicians were 'perplexed' and asked brother Wyatt, 'Who's blood is this?"

He answered them, "It is the blood of your Messiah."

Ron Wyatt testified to us that after them hearing it, the 'screamed'.

It is disturbing to imagine that the church in question can graft things over biblical accounts to make them seem to say what they never did. And if they can slip in something like that...what else have they grafted over Scripture to say what it never taught.
We know that the Protestant Reformation changed many things that were formerly believed in the CC, but did the purging go far enough?

Indeed disturbing, because satan and his angels are cast down to earth.

And here they 'deceive' not only man but overall the inhabitants of the earth according to Revelation of John.

It did, until the Protestant and Reformers' born again church grew worldwide and CC quieten down and behaved, but not truly repented.

But am afraid slowly the born again church themselves are 'backsliding' on the other hand equal to CC.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[rockytopva]

Okay i surrender, you've had me at this verse, before reading your post this verse came to mind yesterday and i looked it through.

Apparently they would have had conversation with each other during the fifteen days, and surely Jesus' topic would be an interesting one.

i believe for James as Jesus was the big brother and moreover his transformation came from Jesus and that'll be his cherished moments to bring to the table.

And for Paul, as a person born outside of wedlock sort of, and where he didn't get to meet Jesus, wish he would, would eager to know from James.

And not forgetting Peter as well who lived with Jesus for more than 3 years on a personal level, the good and bad moments he had with the disciples, Israelites and Jesus, would be a subject on the table as well.

But prior Paul did not meet Jesus, i don't think so, he would have occasionally and time to time, mainly in Jerusalem or the Temple, a loose canon to be put to death.

Since Jesus by the Sanhedrin was known as a heretic, a blasphemer and He did it openly for everyone to see.

Moreover, Jesus regularly confronted the Pharisees and they did Him in Jerusalem and on the Temple ground.

Paul was a student since young of Gamaliel a Sanhedrin at that time, and became a Pharisee himself, surely he would had the same encounter being with them.

And he moved up the rank as chief persecutor, and after Jesus he targeted the Apostles and church saints, and Stephen was his first victim.

Only thing his confession after being saved that he didn't get to meet the Lord, probably based on a personal level as the disciples did.

And i believe the term he used, 'someone born outside of wedlock', meaning, he was 'born again' at the wrong time and place and missed the chance to witness and know the Lord on a personal level.

Who won't be?

Personally as a commoner and if am not born again, i would see Jesus in the carnal and worldly lens, 'a man who have serious issues and asking for trouble.

Besides that whatever he says and does from then on, i would not listen, ignore and stay away from, same as Saul would before becoming Paul.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ

Good stuff! Well researched! I would have loved to have listened into the conversation!

 

[Fred J]

And thusly, "they had many interesting conversations......"

That's not scripture...

 

[David in NJ]

That's not scripture...

Sure it is, you will find it in Acts

 

[Fred J]

Sure it is, you will find it in Acts

Then quote the verse for readers!

"They had many interesting conversations............."

 

[David in NJ]

Then quote the verse for readers!

Far BETTER that the readers find it themselves.................like i did = makes you STRONGER in the Truth

 

[Fred J]

Far BETTER that the readers find it themselves.................like i did = makes you STRONGER in the Truth

There's no verse that read, "They had many interesting conversations....."

Why make things up?

 

[David in NJ]

There's no verse that read, "They had many interesting conversations....."

Why make things up?

There is a passage that says they spoke to one another!!!

You and i do not know how many times nor all that was conversed.

Without a doubt = they had many interesting conversations!

And i know those conversations continued in Heaven with Greater CLARITY and with Greater Understanding

 

[Fred J]

There is a passage that says they spoke to one another!!!

You and i do not know how many times nor all that was conversed.

Without a doubt = they had many interesting conversations!

Not scriptural but they're your own words adding to the scripture, i get it.

And i know those conversations continued in Heaven with Greater CLARITY and with Greater Understanding

So Paul, Peter and James are already in Heaven?

 

[David in NJ]

So Paul, Peter and James are already in Heaven?

Where else would they be???

 

[MonoBiblical]

Far BETTER that the readers find it themselves.................like i did = makes you STRONGER in the Truth

He can use.... .... the BLB

 

[David in NJ]

He can use.... .... the BLB

Blue Letter Bible

i never checked it out

What's it about?

 

[MonoBiblical]

Blue Letter Bible

i never checked it out

What's it about?

Has a reverse interlinear of the KJV and perhaps other translations which it covers. Has awesome Greek and Hebrew tools.