Not so. Your reply didn’t address any of my points, you simply continued with your own line of reasoning.
Here’s a clear example: I provided these proof texts to show that God granted His Son eternal life when He raised Jesus from the dead. Not one person in this forum has been able to deal with these verses (you are now included).
As David wrote, “He (Jesus) asked life of You (God), and You (God) gave it to him, length of days forever and ever” (Psalm 21:4).
Jesus affirmed, “The Father has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).
Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life” (John 6:35) and, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father (for Life) except through me” (John 14:6).
“I live because of the Father” (John 6:57), and again, “As the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).
You replied:
You ignored John 5:26; 6:35; and 6:57, and you avoided addressing how Psalm 21:4 applies directly to Christ, especially how Jesus himself draws on this in John 5:26.
How vague is “it could relate to Jesus”? Do you understand how profoundly Messianic that Psalm is, arguably among the most explicit of all the Psalms? If you downplay Psalm 21, what else are you missing in your understanding?
Where's your problem?
If God raised Jesus and granted him eternal life, then Jesus cannot be God, such a notion is impossible because God is inherently immortal. It also confirms that Jesus truly died, was buried in the grave, and ceased to exist until God raised him from the dead.
If you live because of the Father
AND
Jesus lives because of the Father
Then you have a major problem!
No problem sir.
It is YOU that is misunderstanding Psalm 21:4
Sometimes the OT is prefiguring Jesus
and sometimes it's literal.
Not every psalm is about Jesus.
I gave you the correct interpretation....
not my responsibility to make you accept it.
I can only tell you that it's about King David.
Here is my explanation again:
From my post no. 316
Here is what it means:
Psalm 21:4
4He asked you for life, and you gave it to him—
length of days, for ever and ever.
It's speaking about King David.
Kind David gets his strength from God.
David rejoices in the victories God allowed him to have. Verse 1
God gave David the desires of his heart
God gave him everything he asked for Verse 2
God gave to him a royal welcome by placing a crown on his head. Verse 3
God gave to him a good life and a long life. Verse 4
in a prophetic sense it could relate to Jesus. (as a foreshadowing)
Where's the problem?
It is NOT specifically referring to Jesus.
Please align this with the other verses you've stated if you think it is.
You posted:
John 5:26
26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.
The Father is the source of life.
This life is shared with Christk who receives life from the Father and shares it with us.
It's up to YOU to make the connection, not me.
I do NOT AGREE that there's a connection.
I cannot find a reputable theologian that makes this connection between Psalm 21:4 and John 5.26.
Because it does not exist.
You are MISUNDERSTANDING both scriptures and this happens because you're not following
orthodox Christianity but heterodox Christianity which causes many problems.
And Acts 3:15 kills your theory:
Acts 3:15
15And you killed the Author of life, whom God raised from the dead. To this we are witnesses.
Peter is addressing Jews in Israel.
Do you believe Peter?
He's stating that they killed THE AUTHOR OF LIFE.
Because God Father and God Son are ONE UNITED GOD....
What the Father does the Son does.
BOTH Father and Son are the authors of life because they were always united.
John 5:19
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
If God did not raise Christ from the dead and grant him Eternal Life then you have no life in him as you quoted:
“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father (for Life) except through me” (John 14:6).
I'm seeking intellectual honesty and if you want to appear vague or dismissive with the Word then best, we move right along.
YOU may want to move right along,,,
but I don't plan to.
What could be more honest than explaining a verse to you that YOU started no one was willing to explain?
And, you also never replied to all my verses about Jesus being both man AND God.
Those are clear and straight out of the NT and written by the Apostles.
You do not agree with what the Apostles taught?
WHO raised Jesus from the dead?
YOU say God did...
Let's see:
GOD FATHER RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD:
Romans 6:4
4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Galatians 1:1
1Paul, an apostle—not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead—
THE SON RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD
John 10:18
18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.
John 2:19
19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
Again...BOTH raised Jesus.
Because both are God and both are united in nature/essence/substance.
Both work together as one.
The Trinity explains the perfect cohesion between the two PERSONS...Father and Son.
