WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH

[Doug]

He's saying doesn't matter the gifts of the Holy Ghost he may hold, even tongues of angels one of them, but without 'charity', means nothing at all.

Gifts of the Holy Ghost is not given to a believer to serve oneself, but in charity to serve the congregation rather, and even an outsider who walks in.

For believers who have the gift of tongues in the congregation, apparently are the tongues of angels, tongues how angels in Heaven communicate with GOD.

Therefore here on earth the believer speak in same tongues communicate with GOD in Heaven, and in charity interpret for the congregation to understand.

Henceforth at the end the whole congregation in agreeance finish by confessing "Amen", and as a result everyone is 'edified'.

When angels speak in scripture what they are saying is understood

 

[Doug]

And where will the Church be while the body is in heaven

Believing Israel is the church which will inherit the kingdom on earth

 

[Doug]

Did they ALL worship the same Christ ?

Yes and all are in Christ

 

[talons]

Yes and all are in Christ

Last post .
My only message for you @Doug is to find a church that still believes the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today .
Pray for God to send you the gift(s) of the Holy Spirit that you need as you follow Christ .
No reply needed .

 

[Button]

How does someone come to speak in tongues?

 

[Hillsage]

How does someone come to speak in tongues?

My testimony is this;
1CO 14:39 So, my brethren, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues;

When I was FIRST taught about this 'third baptism' of the Great commission, it scared me. And it took a week of studying the scriptures shared 'that night' to 5 of us, before FEAR was replaced with an 'earnest desire' to receive. Upon going back to the couple's house, two more things had to happen to speak in the prayer tongue of my born again spirit.

Those two things were; 'the faith to believe in my heart and confess with my lips'.....in an unknown tongue. That was in 1972.

Why are you asking Button? @Button

 

[Button]

My testimony is this;
1CO 14:39 So, my brethren, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues;

When I was FIRST taught about this 'third baptism' of the Great commission, it scared me. And it took a week of studying the scriptures shared 'that night' to 5 of us, before FEAR was replaced with an 'earnest desire' to receive. Upon going back to the couple's house, two more things had to happen to speak in the prayer tongue of my born again spirit.

Those two things were; 'the faith to believe in my heart and confess with my lips'.....in an unknown tongue. That was in 1972.

Why are you asking Button?

Because of the atmosphere that is in this thread and insisting women cannot speak in tongues because they're female.
The 1st Corinthians verse tells us that is not true.

When God isn't the one who prohibits this,the source must be elsewhere.

 

[Hillsage]

Because of the atmosphere that is in this thread and insisting women cannot speak in tongues because they're female.
The 1st Corinthians verse tells us that is not true.

Don't feel toooo bad about that. I've been told from many a cessationist that nobody is supposed to speak in tongues anymore. But my testimony disagrees with their theological opinion.

When God isn't the one who prohibits this,the source must be elsewhere.

I met "the source" the night I received. And it wasn't human. All 5 of us received our prayer language 'that night'. And before leaving the house, brother Art, who taught us the week before, shared a warning before we left the house. His warning was; "You have just become a greater threat to the kingdom of Satan than you ever were before. And he is going to try to take this from you." That was my experience when I got home that night. I lived alone and unlocked the door, went in and went to the bathroom and was standing there doing male stuff. When all of a sudden the floor shook from what felt like someone standing right behind me with a 'foot slam' on the floor, demanding I turn around in pure fear and SEE HIM face to face. It scared me big time and I was in the process of doing that very thing. That's when I 'heard' with spiritual ears something I'd never heard before or since...."FEAR KNOCKED, FAITH ANSWERED AND NOBODY WAS THERE!!!!" (Red Letter for a reason). I wasn't even turned far enough to see anything when that 'WORD' froze me in my tracks. I stopped, I thought "Fear Knocked".....Yes Lord...."FAITH ANSWERED".....Yes Lord....I believed I finished business and turned in faith to see "NOBODY WAS THERE". Then I cleaned the stool lid, because it was kind of wet.

I hope "the atmosphere of this thread" (I wouldn't know, I just got here) isn't the atmosphere where you go to be with in fellowship.

 

[Fred J]

Believing Israel is the church which will inherit the kingdom on earth

Prior to this to support such claim, Dough gave us Revelation 14:1-5

Church, be not deceived by false brethren, whom we're trying to help and expose their fallacy.

This chapter does not say the believing Israel 144,000 of them inherit the kingdom on earth.

But rather it says, the remnant saved under the election of grace 144,000 of them received the Kingdom of GOD and Gospel here on earth through Jesus.

Since they're born again by water and the Holy Ghost likewise gifted from above, they were able to sing the new song here on earth which was sung in Heaven in worship.

They have not been resurrected nor raptured yet, because verse 6 states, that the angels have the everlasting Gospel to preach unto all nations.

And remember according to the Gospel those of the remnant are the ones brought the Gospel unto all nations, made disciples and baptized, besides the angels.

Henceforth verse 8, mentions about the last days when Babylon is fallen and the reign of anti-Christ, and punishment to those who obey and follow him.

After this we know that the 'first resurrection' takes place of those who are dead in Christ and living, including the born again 144,000 remnant of Israelites and Gentiles.

And since the Gospel has been preached to all nations cum the full number of Gentiles have come in, therefore besides the remnant 144,000 saved by grace, all Israel shall be saved by mercy of GOD in the end.

To conclude for you church, i don't see this chapter supports the claim of Dough repeatedly and is false.

 

[Fred J]

My testimony is this;
1CO 14:39 So, my brethren, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues;

When I was FIRST taught about this 'third baptism' of the Great commission, it scared me. And it took a week of studying the scriptures shared 'that night' to 5 of us, before FEAR was replaced with an 'earnest desire' to receive. Upon going back to the couple's house, two more things had to happen to speak in the prayer tongue of my born again spirit.

Those two things were; 'the faith to believe in my heart and confess with my lips'.....in an unknown tongue. That was in 1972.

Why are you asking Button? @Button

That's great, but can you 'interpret' to a common language all understand like English?

 

[Fred J]

Because of the atmosphere that is in this thread and insisting women cannot speak in tongues because they're female.
The 1st Corinthians verse tells us that is not true.

When God isn't the one who prohibits this,the source must be elsewhere.

False brethren or heretics.

Christ through Paul, allow a woman to pray for and prophesy to, the congregation provided with a covering.

As to speak unknown to earth Heavenly tongues, is addressed to man that he should in charity interpret for the 'edification' of the church, and not oneself.

 

[talons]

How does someone come to speak in tongues?

Pray and ask God for the Gift of tongues .
I was not a Christian but I was observing my wife when she was moving in the power of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues . I said to myself this is the kind of relationship I want with God , not really understanding what was going to happen to me when I did turn over my life over to Jesus .
I received the Gift of Tongues at salvation, before I left the spot at the front of the church where I received my salvation . I stood there at the altar and words were wanting to come out of my mouth that were NOT my words . I was shocked and thought what is happening to me and I did not let The Holy Spirit have the utterance . Over the next few weeks I came to understand that The Holy Spirit was wanting to speak through me when I was at the altar . At a later church service anyone with a need went to the altar for prayer and I went and was prayed for and began speaking in tongues . No training , no teaching it just flowed . Now have I ever gave a message out in tongues in a church service , no I have not . When I am alone in prayer is when I will pray in tongues . Sometimes a melody come with the words and I sing my prayer , this is not very often but so great when it does happen :) .

 

[talons]

That's great, but can you 'interpret' to a common language all understand like English?

I once under the power of the Holy Spirit spoke to a group of people in their own language .

 

[quietthinker]

WOMEN AREN'T TO SPEAK IN TONGUES IN THE CHURCH​

If you're a babbler, then cut it. If you can't or don't want to, then at least shut up in the meeting of God's people.

 

[Fred J]

When angels speak in scripture what they are saying is understood

Apparently they can speak in the tongues of human when they're here on earth to convey a message from above.

But in Heaven they have their tongues of Heaven communicating with GOD day and night.

The same born again church of the Kingdom of GOD here on earth also receive the same unknown tongues from the Holy Ghost to communicate with GOD in Heaven.

The congregation will also come to know to participate when the speaker in charity 'interprets' what is communicated into the common human tongues they understand.

Therefore at the end of the communication, all understand and in agreeance together they finish by saying, "Amen"

Spiritual gifts should be met with charity as servants of the Kingdom of GOD on earth and at hand, to serve the congregation and a stranger who walks in.

For it is written, "To serve and not to be served."

And, "To become the greatest in Heaven is to become the servant of all here on earth."

Together, "My food is to do My FATHER's will."

Gift to speak in tongues of human to proclaim the Gospel and make disciple of all nations is also the Kingdom of GOD here on earth and at hand with the born again.

Nevertheless, the full Kingdom of GOD to come and HIS will to be done here on earth as it is in Heaven, have not yet come.

Every born again nation is Christian and from above and they at present a merely sojourners here to proclaim the Gospel and make disciples of all nations.

And baptize them in the name of the FATHER, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

For it is written, "GOD is not an author of confusion but of peace."

Therefore shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ

 

[Fred J]

I once under the power of the Holy Spirit spoke to a group of people in their own language .

Thank you and what tongues of human was that, Italian, Japanese, Korean etc.?

 

[Fred J]

Pray and ask God for the Gift of tongues .
I was not a Christian but I was observing my wife when she was moving in the power of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues . I said to myself this is the kind of relationship I want with God , not really understanding what was going to happen to me when I did turn over my life over to Jesus .
I received the Gift of Tongues at salvation, before I left the spot at the front of the church where I received my salvation . I stood there at the altar and words were wanting to come out of my mouth that were NOT my words . I was shocked and thought what is happening to me and I did not let The Holy Spirit have the utterance . Over the next few weeks I came to understand that The Holy Spirit was wanting to speak through me when I was at the altar . At a later church service anyone with a need went to the altar for prayer and I went and was prayed for and began speaking in tongues . No training , no teaching it just flowed . Now have I ever gave a message out in tongues in a church service , no I have not . When I am alone in prayer is when I will pray in tongues . Sometimes a melody come with the words and I sing my prayer , this is not very often but so great when it does happen :) .

Great, do you understand what is spoken, and can you interpret to a common language like English?

Am a bit confused here, do you speak the tongues of human or the tongues of angels?

 

[Brakelite]

It doesnt say women were present at Pentecost only men
All these verses refer to men only...........
[Acts 2:5 KJV] "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven."
[Acts 2:6 KJV] "Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language."
[Acts 2:8 KJV] "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"
[Acts 2:14 KJV] "But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all [ye] that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:"

“14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. ”
Acts 2:14-21 KJV

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Are there only men living in Jerusalem because Peter said...

“And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. ”
Acts 2:5 KJV

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[Fred J]

As Apostle Paul mentioned in ch. 13, there's 2 gifts of tongues from the Holy Ghost.

One is the tongues of men and the other tongues of angels.

Tongues of men is the one the Apostles received on the day of Pentecost, to proclaim the Gospel to those of other nations in their mother tongue as a sign.

i believe it was a place of commerce and mostly men did the dealings there, and also there are ones who came from other nations as well.

The other is the tongues of angels, as unknown tongues to man, given to conduct in the gathering of born again believers as a sign.

This tongues of Heaven is spoken by gifted individuals and interpreted for the congregation to participate together, in communicating and worshiping GOD in Heaven, as the angels do day and night.

This gift met with charity in interpreting for the congregation to understand and together finish by 'Amen', results to the whole congregation getting 'edified'.

As Jesus prophesied to the the Samaritan woman who spoke about the division of the Israelites worshiping GOD;

"There'll come a day, neither the Jews worship in the Temple and the Samaritans worship at Mount Sinai. But true worshipers (even Gentiles) who'll worship GOD in spirit and truth."

 

[soberxp]

But what if angles speak the tongues of Chinese,English! Or the tongues of wind.....