Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

[GodsGrace]

What it means to be made in the image of God?
Jesus Christ obey the will of God not the will of himself, that's called the image of God.

Since Adam and Eve not obey the word of God, they are not the image of God anymore......and lost life.

Jesus Christ is the image of God, so you thinking he is God..... That's not right not wrong,but never understand what is the image of God anymore.......

If you see Jesus Christ then you see the father, you see the God but the image of God that Jesus Christ shows it to you,because of God made the first Adam in the image of himself.

Jesus Christ shows what was the Adam made by God in his own image.
Who is the second Adam?

And what is the meaning of God said :"made in our image?"

The second Adam around with God and God said :"made in our image"

The first will be the last, the last will be the first.

But Genesis says that MAN was made in the image of God.

HOW is man made in the image of God?

You have not replied to the question.

It's easy nowadays SX.
It didn't used to be this easy.
Study was actually NECESSARY.
And study from authorized sources
NOT the internet.

So, try agian.
I'll be Gemini knows how we're made in the image of God.

YOU should also know.

 

[GodsGrace]

It is the Trinitarians who have preached another Jesus and another gospel.

Prove it.

Study some church history and study the NT and the OT and then come back and we'll discuss.

You're not ready for this conversation yet.

 

[GodsGrace]

It is the Trinitarians who have preached another Jesus and another gospel.

BTW,,,,could you introduce to us Christians
the Jesus that YOU know?

 

[soberxp]

BTW,,,,could you introduce to us Christians
the Jesus that YOU know?

Jesus Christ said: follow me!
If you think he is God, how can be man follow the God?
And run our best as Jesus Christ??

And God made man in his own image.
Jesus Christ is the image of God.
This is God's consistent purpose.

Obey the word of God from the beginning to the end, if not then you are the image of Satan, not the image of God.

So we need a Saviour the Jesus Christ, shows that what is the image of God is.

Obey the word of God. It's simple to explain but difficult to understand for you.

 

[GodsGrace]

Jesus Christ said: follow me!
If you think he is God, how can be man follow the God?
And run our best as Jesus Christ??

So Jesus is just a man or maybe a Prophet?
Muslims believe Jesus is a man and Prophet.

So are you a Muslim?

And God made man in his own image.
Jesus Christ is the image of God.

Oh.....I see.
God made man in His own image...
and Jesus is a MAN....

OK.

So are WE like Jesus?

See folk...
this is what incorrect theology leads to.

This is God's consistent purpose.

Obey the word of God from the beginning to the end, if not then you are the image of Satan, not the image of God.

So we need a Saviour the Jesus Christ, shows that what is the image of God is.

Can a MAN save us?
Could you post some scripture that teaches that a mere man can save humanity?

Obey the word of God. It's simple to explain but difficult to understand for you.

Oh. Yeah.
But YOU understand everything perfectly.
Gotcha.

So ISLAM means to be subjected to God.
So Muslims obey God.

So are you a Muslim?

 

[soberxp]

So Jesus is just a man or maybe a Prophet?
Muslims believe Jesus is a man and Prophet.

So are you a Muslim?



Oh.....I see.
God made man in His own image...
and Jesus is a MAN....

OK.

So are WE like Jesus?

See folk...
this is what incorrect theology leads to.


Can a MAN save us?
Could you post some scripture that teaches that a mere man can save humanity?

Oh. Yeah.
But YOU understand everything perfectly.
Gotcha.

So ISLAM means to be subjected to God.
So Muslims obey God.

So are you a Muslim?

IT is not about Muslim, but a book called the Quran or the Koran from God, whatever reason you believe it or not.

And where is the word in the Bible clearly says Jesus Christ is the God no other before him.

 

[Lambano]

That would be the end of the Christian faith---religion, as I've learned to say.

That may have already happened long ago, when we redefined ourselves from a religion taught by Jesus to a religion about Jesus.

 

[GodsGrace]

That may have already happened long ago, when we redefined ourselves from a religion taught by Jesus to a religion about Jesus.

Hey
Check out my signature line.
Isn't it the same?

Or, at least, it should be.

 

[GodsGrace]

IT is not about Muslim, but a book called the Quran or the Koran from God, whatever reason you believe it or not.

And where is the word in the Bible clearly says Jesus Christ is the God no other before him.

OK
This conversation will end here.

However, you MIGHT be Muslim for all I know.

And the Qur'an was from Muhammad.
Not to change the topic.

 

[Wrangler]

I don't know what you're speaking about.

Yes you do! You’re just being widely ignorant.

This is what I state:
Following Jesus does not a Christian make.

Not an answer to my question. What do you call someone who follows Jesus?

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes you do! You’re just being widely ignorant.


Not an answer to my question. What do you call someone who follows Jesus?

What's the problem here Wrangler?
Am I speaking English?
Want me to try in a different language?

It's not up to ME to tell you what someone is called that is "following" Jesus.

THIS is what I'm stating:
If a person does not beleive Jesus is God and thus does not accept the Trinity...
he is NOT a Christian.

He's some other odd religion I'm not familiar with.
I am not called to know what that odd religion is.

I DID state some denominations that think they're Christian but are not.
There are more.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
UNITARIAN
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE
LATTER DAY SAINTS
BAHA'I


John 8:24
24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that [a]I am, you will die in your sins.”

WHO is the I AM that will save you?
Some guy named Jesus?

 

[Wrangler]

It's not up to ME to tell you what someone is called that is "following" Jesus.

Not very intellectually honest. I'll leave the conversation now.

But before I do, I've read others who replied to you pointing out your lack of grace which is profound given your screen name. Something to think about.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes sir.
The Christian religion - and I DO say religion -
is being attacked from within.
Time to go to the trenches !

Christainity is being remolded
as have been even the false religoins from within .
THEY are all recreating an image of a god by means of a love
THAT ALL RELIGOINS will and can agree upon as being GOD and LOVE .
THIS IS WHY the diety of CHRIST had to be removed .
B ecause no other religoin , to include the sanhedrian and the muslims
BELIEVE JESUS to be THE SON of GOD let alone that the WORD was GOD .
THEY are remolding the image of Christ and thus of GOD .
The sad thing is THEY EVEN told us they were going to do that
years and years ago . new a gers and etc even made mention in books
and at times spoke it out loud
That they were going to infiltrate christendom , of course they thought it was because
our image of Christ and of GOD was wrong .
THEY even said this . Even back in the year two thousand
an elegant speaker said
THE ONE MAIN obstacle in the path to world peace , WAS BIBLICAL CHRISTAINTY .
People have no idea what purpose driven life books
and s eeker friendly , ecumeincalism was really all about . IT was about removing CORE doctrines
that got in the way and caused division . They also focused on bridge building strategies
By which they focused on what they had in common and some g ood works and talks of love.
THEY KNEW what they were doing ALL along . and sadly much of christendom bought into it over the years .
And now they bring the final phase in , WHICH WILL MERGE us with even the false religons to find common ground
and for all to beleive we are all serving the one same GOD . While in part it is true
They who do this and those who buy this are serving the agenda of the one same god . IT AINT GOD nor is it HIS LOVE
or HIS PLAN for world peace n safety . IT COMETH of another who has come in his own name
TO MERGE all of h umanity and its religoins to be as ONE MIND , ONE HEART and one people .
NO longer divided but UNITED under a common cause , only that cause is of anti christ NOT CHRIST .

 

[Grailhunter]

If a person does not believe in orthodox Christianity, which includes the Trinity,
they cannot define themselves as Christian.

Who defines orthodox Christianity?
I think Yeshua defined what it was to be a Christian and it was not about a word that is not in the scriptures.

 

[amigo de christo]

Catholics do not study the bible - generally speaking.


Are you serious?
Have I not been posting SCRIPTURE to you and explaining it all along?

Because YOU do not agree with scripture
means YOU are wrong...
not scripture.

Do you think I'm Catholic?
Not that there's anything wrong with it.

I believe there's an insult here somewhere, but we'll let it go.
Please just reply to my posts AND WITH SCRIPTURE.

AGAIN
It's not MY definiton.
The CHURCH defined Christianity 2 thousand years ago.
The APOSTLES taught that Jesus is God.
The APOSTLES taught that the Holy Spirit is God.
They are both GOD and PERSON.
They are both a divine BEING.
Since there is only ONE GOD....the plurality of God must be explained.
The trinity does this.

In case you haven't yet understood Trevor....
ALL Christian churches teach the Trinity.
If the Trinity is not believed, it is NOT a Christian church.

It might think it is....
but it is NOT.

And you really should keep any particular denomination out of this.
The Catholic Church believes Christian tenets.
It is a Christian church.


Well, Muslims also believe in Jesus and the Injl, which is the gospel.

Are THEY Christian?

If not, WHY not?


Because they are not following the tenets of what defines the crhistian faith/religion.

Exactly . even the muslims claim to beleive on JESUS .
And yet it is ANOTHER JESUS . they dont even beleive HIM to be the divine SON of GOD .
THIS is why the diety of CHRIST had to be removed .
IN order to merge the religoins ONE singular religion cannot be seen as THE ONLY WAY
let alone THAT IT BE OF GOD and that GOD HIMSELF be THE WORD .
cause for to say this , for to make such a cliam
ABSOLUTEY exposes all other religoins , and their cliams that all prophets in all religons
knew GOD and had some things right and etc .
CAUSE IF ONE made the cliams that no other Prophet of any other religoin ever did
MY GOODNESS that has got to be removed . THE VERY WORDS of JESUS himself would have proved
he was not a mere prophet at all . I am the FIRST and the LAST .
THEY had to remove this . Not only that but now they are even removing
BELEIF in JESUS as a means to be saved .
THIS keeps getting worse and all the time .
SO lets sum it up .
MANY religions can claim they BELEIVE GOD
but had they beleived GOD they would have BELIEVED CHRIST .
many within christendom claim to believe IN JESUS CHRIST
and yet had THEY BELIEVED IN HIM , THEY WOULD have BELIEVED HIS WORDS .
ITS ALL ABOUT CHILD LIKE BELIEEF , FAITH . for if a man trusts not IN HIS WORDS
THEY DO NOT TRUST IN OR BELEIVE HIM at all , but at most only another image of what THEY think be GOD or CHRIST .
The devil is very slick indeed but the sheep WILL Not hear and heed the voice of the s tranger .
JESUS has the sheep and ITS TRUTH that be their meat and HIS WORDS ARE TRUTH .

 

[amigo de christo]

Who defines orthodox Christianity?
I think Yeshua defined what it was to be a Christian and it was not about a word that is not in the scriptures.

Yes , JESUS the CHRIST does define this .
And yet HIS OWN words
I AM THE FIRST and the LAST
no other angel , no other prophet , no king of israel
EVER DARED to utter such words about himself .
BUT JESUS DID .
SO whether or not one understands the GODHEAD
STOP denying what is written .
AND IT DID NOT say a word or a god .
IT SAID THE WORD and it said WAS GOD . Its not me changing what was written
ITS MEN doing it with wise greek words and etc . They decieve this people.
And of course WE call him THE SON OF GOD . but just dont deny HIS words . leave it alone

 

[amigo de christo]

 

[GRACE ambassador]

And we're in a crisis period now when it's likely to redefine itself again.

Can't wait to hear "what that will be", eh?

 

[GodsGrace]

Not very intellectually honest. I'll leave the conversation now.

But before I do, I've read others who replied to you pointing out your lack of grace which is profound given your screen name. Something to think about.

Hmmm.
You don't understand.
Whatever.

It seems to me that YOU are not being intellectually honest.
But this really does not concern me.
I expect very little...

As to grace...
HERE is grace:

Grace is telling a person what the Christian religion teaches.
Grace is telling a person what the gospel is so that they can save their soul.
Grace is introducting Jesus - the Jesus that the Apostles taught...
NOT the one that some seem to have made up to be in the image of what THEY can understand...
as if they could understand God beyond what has been revealed.

And, as you leave the conversation,
YOU have not provided what someone can be called that just FOLLOWS Jesus as if He's just a nice teacher.

BUT
he certainly cannot be called a Christian.

 

[GodsGrace]

Christainity is being remolded
as have been even the false religoins from within .
THEY are all recreating an image of a god by means of a love
THAT ALL RELIGOINS will and can agree upon as being GOD and LOVE .
THIS IS WHY the diety of CHRIST had to be removed .
B ecause no other religoin , to include the sanhedrian and the muslims
BELIEVE JESUS to be THE SON of GOD let alone that the WORD was GOD .
THEY are remolding the image of Christ and thus of GOD .
The sad thing is THEY EVEN told us they were going to do that
years and years ago . new a gers and etc even made mention in books
and at times spoke it out loud
That they were going to infiltrate christendom , of course they thought it was because
our image of Christ and of GOD was wrong .
THEY even said this . Even back in the year two thousand
an elegant speaker said
THE ONE MAIN obstacle in the path to world peace , WAS BIBLICAL CHRISTAINTY .
People have no idea what purpose driven life books
and s eeker friendly , ecumeincalism was really all about . IT was about removing CORE doctrines
that got in the way and caused division . They also focused on bridge building strategies
By which they focused on what they had in common and some g ood works and talks of love.
THEY KNEW what they were doing ALL along . and sadly much of christendom bought into it over the years .
And now they bring the final phase in , WHICH WILL MERGE us with even the false religons to find common ground
and for all to beleive we are all serving the one same GOD . While in part it is true
They who do this and those who buy this are serving the agenda of the one same god . IT AINT GOD nor is it HIS LOVE
or HIS PLAN for world peace n safety . IT COMETH of another who has come in his own name
TO MERGE all of h umanity and its religoins to be as ONE MIND , ONE HEART and one people .
NO longer divided but UNITED under a common cause , only that cause is of anti christ NOT CHRIST .

Yes sir.
They are trying to remold Jesus
and thus God Himself.

But God cannot be remolded.
God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and forever for all eternity.
He will not change and will see to it that humans fail in attempting to change Him.