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quietthinker
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The undeveloped mind will categorise so it doesn't need to think too deeply. Life is easier that way.
Taken
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Not so Simple, when Spiritual Works and Spiritual Understanding In regards to Spiritual things regarding a man.
Body=mortal flesh
Breaths=Oxygen Air inhaled.
Alive Body=Flowing Blood
Flowing Blood=Heart beat.
Lack of Heart beat=body dying or dead.
Living Soul In Alive Body=A Born Body
(Adam / Eve exception)
Living Soul In Body=Body senses Activated
No heart beat, No body senses Activity=
Body Dead.
…Living Soul has Departed the Dead Body.
Natural spirit in An Alive, Living Body=
…Natural “Heartful Truth” of that specific Body.
A Born Again spirit in An Alive, Living Body=
…That specific Heart has been;
Spiritually Circumcised…
Has Spiritually been Given Gods Seed…
Spirit Has been Born Again.
Has Been Given Gods Holy Spirit of Gods Truth.
A Saved Living Soul=Departs out of a Dead Body…IS Escorted to Heaven.
A Born Again Spirit=Departs out of a Dead Body…Goes up to Heaven.
A Departed Unsaved Living Soul=Is Sent to Hell.
A natural Spirit, NOT born Again=Dies with the Body.
Dead Body Decays.
Living departed Soul, continues Living.
stevesonthebay
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Thats the problem. Other denominations will say the same. Thats what causes the division.
All it takes is a belief in the gospel. The partaking in the Body of Christ.
""All it takes is a belief in the gospel. The partaking in the Body of Christ.""
What do you understand is the SAVING gospel for today ?
I understand it's Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13.
stevesonthebay
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Beebster
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The spirit is the spirit of life that God breathes into man's body. That body BECOMES a LIVING SOUL.
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, (Body) and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (Spirit); and man became a living soul. (Soul) (Gen 2:7)
When God takes that spirit of life back that LIVING SOUL becomes a DEAD SOUL and is in the state of death i.e sheol/hades. There is no consciousness, you have no memory you are dead and God likens death to sleep.
Peace.
Every religion claiming to be Christian claims to have holy spirit-Yet are a mass of confusion proving they do not have holy spirit. Only 1( 1Cor 1:10) religion has Jesus and holy spirit.
I don't kill anyone. The Jw,s went to prision and concentration camps instead of standing on both sides of the wars of hatred. By applying Jesus truth--Known by love amongst yourselves.
Heaven = a higher plain of existence. The bible teaches-144,000 are bought from the Earth to heaven( Rev 14:3)
Jesus' teachings prove the JW,s are correct-in every translation on Earth. Is he the one you are calling delusional?
I have studied since 1961--I attended different trinity religions-they teach little of the bible and what Jesus actually teaches to the flocks. The JW,s teach us Every utterance from God, it never stops-Why, because they listen to Jesus-Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God. Thus without fail, the teachers who have Jesus teach every utterance from God without fail.
Beebster
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Are you seriously contending that the breath of life is not the spirit of life?
All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils (Job 27:3)
Taken
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Sorry you think Jesus’ teaching is twisted and dark.
I noticed you made not one challenge to what I said.
Taken
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Man’s breath OF Spiritual Life IS Expressly the Truth “IN his HEART.
Man’s offer is to Receive a New Seed, Spiritual new Birth, Gods Spiritual Truth in his Heart.
Prov 23:
[7] For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
1 Cor 2:
[11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1 Pet 1:
[23] Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Man’s natural Spirit is of a mans Seed…
Corruptable and subject to Death.
Man’s natural carnal Breath is Oxygen, delivered to the Lungs.
Ready, Learn, Trust the Word of God.
Rockerduck
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I firmly stated Born Again from above. Christianity is a catch phrase, but they are not born again from above. If you cannot say, without a shadow of doubt, you are going to Heaven, then you aren't born again from above and you do not have the Holy Spirit.
Earburner
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That right there is the foul, religious belief of church-ianity, aka "the wisdom of men".
All UNsaved people (who are not born again of God's Holy Spirit) have NOooo... eternal existence of any kind.
God breathed into Adam's nostrils Oxygensted AIR, and man BECAME a living soul.
As the scriptures do reveal, Adam and all other AIR breathing creatures were never given, nor did they receive the Satanic belief of everyone possessing an eternal, immortal soul.
Gen.2
[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man BECAME a living soul. In other words, he was never given a soul!!
Gen.6
[17] And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.
Gen.7
[15] And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.
[22] All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all [flesh] that was in the dry land, died [suffocated/drowned].
The Hebrew word for "soul" is "nephesh", which means: "animal life".
As for "the natural man", God does not distinguish the difference between the "natural" life of animals and humans. All equally do breathe "the breath of life", which is Oxygenated AIR.
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Rockerduck
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"nephesh" means more than that. In the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:5), loving God with all one's nephesh = offering one's entire life, desires, and whole being to Him. Jesus quoted this as the first of the two greatest commandments.
Deuteronomy 6:5 -You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.
Earburner
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Once again, as with all who are duped by church-ianity, you are unknowingly misapplying the word "soul" to the reason of HOW one BECAME a [mortal] living soul.
We are not to be looking at what a soul is, but rather how man became a [mortal] living soul.
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