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Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

So, according to you, "the breath of the Almighty" is merely oxygenated air?


So God created Adam and Adam created the rest of the human race?

Physical gender sure, but what about spiritual gender?
Take Christ for instance.
Does Christ have feminabsolutely NOTine attributes?

Peace.
Absolutely NOT!!
Since you really do not know, Jesus is the FIRST born of that of a NEW Creature. The FIRST of a brand new SPIRITUAL race of beings who IS REALLY Eternal and Immortal.
Jesus NOW IS NOT Jew, Gentile, Male or Female!!!
 

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Absolutely NOT!!
Since you really do not know, Jesus is the FIRST born of that of a NEW Creature. The FIRST of a brand new SPIRITUAL race of beings who IS REALLY Eternal and Immortal.
Jesus NOW IS NOT Jew, Gentile, Male or Female!!!
Is Jesus Christ, the SON of God, subject to his Father?
 

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Jesus NOW IS NOT Jew

He actually is a Jew... when He returns He will rulefrom His Throne in Jerusalem which is in Israel

Do you hate and despise the Jews?

One cannot be a liberal in good standing unless they hate Jews and support killing babies and teaching children to be perverts.

You know, all the things satan enjoys and finds happiness in
 

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The delusional ones are the ones who think God lied when He said He made man in His Own Image.
I have to agree with ya on this statement Big Boy!
People that think, or believe, or profess, GOD has no other emotions other than love?
Don't know the same GOD I know! And are in for a/some Genuine Surprise/s!
Take Righteous Indignation for example.
Or, Corrective Measures, or (life) Course Corrections.
All in how one wishes, or is taught, or told, or influenced, or intimidated in how to interpret His love in these manners.
Right?
 

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Remember divisions that cause nations and gender only applies to planet earth...

26 Ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. - Galatians 3

19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err. - Mark 12

To apply the divisions which cause genders and nations here on planet earth to the heavenlies is a great error. God created the pleasures of the world to see population on planet Earth. For many it is the chief pleasure and therefore desire it in the afterlife. But... That is not the case but a great error. I would go on to say that the most wonderful pleasures here on earth are dung compared to the heavenly pleasures...

Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, - Philippians 3:8
 

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He actually is a Jew... when He returns He will rulefrom His Throne in Jerusalem which is in Israel

Do you hate and despise the Jews?

One cannot be a liberal in good standing unless they hate Jews and support killing babies and teaching children to be perverts.

You know, all the things satan enjoys and finds happiness in
Edit... Tone it down about the hate!
Jesus is the First New creature (creation) of God. When Jesus returns in all His Glory, in flaming fire, there will be no more anything of an old Jerusalem. God is only interested in the NEW Jerusalem, which is above and not about buildings made by our hands, for another earthly temple building, but rather it is about WE who are His Temple. We are those precious stones OF HIS TEMPLE that HE has been buiding up.
1 Peter 2
[5] Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

Rev. 21:9-27
[22] And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
 
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Remember divisions that cause nations and gender only applies to planet earth...

26 Ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. - Galatians 3

19 Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
20 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed.
21 And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise.
22 And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also.
23 In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err. - Mark 12

To apply the divisions which cause genders and nations here on planet earth to the heavenlies is a great error. God created the pleasures of the world to see population on planet Earth. For many it is the chief pleasure and therefore desire it in the afterlife. But... That is not the case but a great error. I would go on to say that the most wonderful pleasures here on earth are dung compared to the heavenly pleasures...

Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, - Philippians 3:8
Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? - Acts 19:2

I fear people are trying to drag the sexual into this board because they have never experienced the true pleasures of God
 
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Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? - Acts 19:2

I fear people are trying to drag the sexual into this board because they have never experienced the true pleasures of God
I can tell ya that when, with just a sliver of a finger nail of God's love fills you?
You are in want of, or in need, of NOTHING!
Speaking from (a) personal experience!
 

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Only the delusional would make such a claim. They fell for satan's trick and believe his claim that Jesus is a liar.

The gifts and callings of God are without repentance, and when He created man in His Own Image is when man was given the gift of living for eternity just like He will.

God never stops being awake and aware and neither does man. But man will be awake and aware either in Heaven with the Lord, or being tormented in hell with satan and his demons

Jesus Christ clearly taught that most will be sent to hell and will in fact be tormented there for eternity because they get satan's reward since they are children of the devil due to having rejected Jesus as Lord and Savior.

Those claiming Jesus is a liar are to be ignored as these people speak in behalf of the devil whether they realize it or not.




In Genesis 2:7, it is described that God formed Adam from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, making him a living being. This act signifies the divine impartation of life and spirit to man

Sadly for you your claim is that God lied in Genesis 2:7




Liberalism is not just political.

In the religious world liberalism are those that listen to the devil instead of accepting what God teaches in His Word.

These people won't be found in God's Kingdom so we won't have to deal with them for very long. Only in this life.
I guess you'll be the gate keeper, determining who is in and who is out!
 
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Ok, so both you and NayborBear and myself believe that Jesus Christ is subject to the Father right.

Is the female subject to the male?
 

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Ok, so both you and NayborBear and myself believe that Jesus Christ is subject to the Father right.

Is the female subject to the male?
For this present life, that is God's order of things, pertaining to husband and wife, but as for today, approximately less than 10% of women agree with it.

However, as for the New Eternal/Immortal life in the New heavens and New earth, there will be no requirement or need of such an arrangement among the saints. All of such will be raised into the newness and likeness of Christ, having Eternal life and Immortality.

Where it says that there shall be NO MORE DEATH (Rev. 21:4) , one must come to terms with the reality that there will be NO MORE BIRTHS.
 
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That would be abiding in the Doctrine of Christ.

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Sadly, most here have no idea what the Doctrine of Christ even is even though it's right there in God's written Word.

But then again many claim we don't need God's written Word which explains why they are ignorant of His will.
Its so simple when you lay it out like that. If you sin and don't follow Christs teachings you don't have God. If you follow Christs teachings he is in Christ and the Father.

Its like you cannot worship two gods. You are either in Christ or anti Christ. You don't have to be a rocket scientists to know this. Thats why the gospel is for all. A simple message written in plain and simple words.

But along comes skeptical rationalisation and Critical critiques and something simple gets complicated into something completely different.
 

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Its so simple when you lay it out like that. If you sin and don't follow Christs teachings you don't have God. If you follow Christs teachings he is in Christ and the Father.

Its like you cannot worship two gods. You are either in Christ or anti Christ. You don't have to be a rocket scientists to know this. Thats why the gospel is for all. A simple message written in plain and simple words.

But along comes skeptical rationalisation and Critical critiques and something simple gets complicated into something completely different.
Yes, and that something completely different is called Church-ianity, aka "the wisdom of men". Ref. all of KJV 1 Cor. ch. 2.

Whoever is not born again of the Holy Spirit of God, all of such (though they believe) are not in the KoG, but are only running parallel to it. John 3:3-8.

As Rom. 8:9 says: "Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his".
 
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However, as for the New Eternal/Immortal life in the New heavens and New earth, there will be no requirement or need of such an arrangement among the saints. All of such will be raised into the newness and likeness of Christ, having Eternal life and Immortality.

And still subject to the Father?
 
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I guess you'll be the gate keeper, determining who is in and who is out!

Jesus is the One Who decides who is in or out and He will make that determination based on God's Word.

The tares amongst us apparently don't know God wrote a Book that explains how He does business.

And so the tares go about making up their own "religious reality" always geared towards it's all good if we live in sin as they claim there is nothing one could possibly do that would cause they to not go to Heaven - the tares call it "once saved always saved" or "eternal security" as they claim all future sins have already been forgiven.

God's Word teaches that these people have turned the grace of God in to lawlessness but that tares don't care as they just keep on truckin with they false gospel seeking to deceive as many as possible.

Apparently the devil is rewarding therm for each soul they deceive.

Its so simple when you lay it out like that. If you sin and don't follow Christs teachings you don't have God. If you follow Christs teachings he is in Christ and the Father.

Its like you cannot worship two gods. You are either in Christ or anti Christ. You don't have to be a rocket scientists to know this. Thats why the gospel is for all. A simple message written in plain and simple words.

But along comes skeptical rationalisation and Critical critiques and something simple gets complicated into something completely different.

Yep that's what the devil does thru the tares is muddy the waters to turn people away from the simple and easy to understand scriptures they Lord has provided for mankind.
 
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Jesus is the One Who decides who is in or out and He will make that determination based on God's Word.

The tares amongst us apparently don't know God wrote a Book that explains how He does business.

And so the tares go about making up their own "religious reality" always geared towards it's all good if we live in sin as they claim there is nothing one could possibly do that would cause they to not go to Heaven - the tares call it "once saved always saved" or "eternal security" as they claim all future sins have already been forgiven.

God's Word teaches that these people have turned the grace of God in to lawlessness but that tares don't care as they just keep on truckin with they false gospel seeking to deceive as many as possible.

Apparently the devil is rewarding therm for each soul they deceive.



Yep that's what the devil does thru the tares is muddy the waters to turn people away from the simple and easy to understand scriptures they Lord has provided for mankind.

Matthew 13:
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy (satan/spirit of antichrist) came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder (harvesting/messaging Angels) came and said unto him, Sir (Lord of the Harvest), didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He (Lord of the Harvest) said unto them, An enemy (satan/spirit of antichrist) hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers (Harvesting Angels), Gather ye together first the tares (aka: False Wheat/tares), and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat (true believers/Disciples/Apostles/Priests) into my barn (in Christ/in Heaven).

Hebrews 13:
2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. (especially the "strangers" that are within each and every one of us!) This is why tis PARAMOUNT to "test the spirits!"
9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. (although they strive very hard in their efforts of procuring oil from our lamps that they have used up in theirs! Rabbit holes leading to vanishing points...."How'd we get "here?")
 

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Jesus is the One Who decides who is in or out and He will make that determination based on God's Word.

The tares amongst us apparently don't know God wrote a Book that explains how He does business.

And so the tares go about making up their own "religious reality" always geared towards it's all good if we live in sin as they claim there is nothing one could possibly do that would cause they to not go to Heaven - the tares call it "once saved always saved" or "eternal security" as they claim all future sins have already been forgiven.

God's Word teaches that these people have turned the grace of God in to lawlessness but that tares don't care as they just keep on truckin with they false gospel seeking to deceive as many as possible.

Apparently the devil is rewarding therm for each soul they deceive.



Yep that's what the devil does thru the tares is muddy the waters to turn people away from the simple and easy to understand scriptures they Lord has provided for mankind.
Here are a couple scriptures that reveal just exactly who are in "the muddy waters", and who are not:
Mark 3
[28] Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
[29] But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

1 Corinthians 3:13-15
[13]Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire [2 Thes. 1:7-10]; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
[14]If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
[15] If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 
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Jesus is the One Who decides who is in or out and He will make that determination based on God's Word.

The tares amongst us apparently don't know God wrote a Book that explains how He does business.

And so the tares go about making up their own "religious reality" always geared towards it's all good if we live in sin as they claim there is nothing one could possibly do that would cause they to not go to Heaven - the tares call it "once saved always saved" or "eternal security" as they claim all future sins have already been forgiven.

God's Word teaches that these people have turned the grace of God in to lawlessness but that tares don't care as they just keep on truckin with they false gospel seeking to deceive as many as possible.

Apparently the devil is rewarding therm for each soul they deceive.
If Jesus is the one who decides then you have nothing of significance to say about the matter!