Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
I’d like to take your points one at a time here, if I may....
There is “heaven” where the birds fly....something inside of earth’s atmosphere, where life is sustained by the provision of oxygen.....the higher the altitude, the thinner the oxygen supply becomes....until it runs out altogether and a human needs an artificial oxygen supply to continue living outside of that atmosphere.
There is also the “heavens” where the the sun, moon and stars are located outside of Earth’s atmosphere.
This is the vast Universe that God created “in the beginning”...a time when material creation was brought into existence....the “Big Bang” as it is humorously called by Science.
Then there is “heaven” where God the Creator and his angelic sons reside. Jesus gave his Father a location in the Lord’s Prayer...”Our Father who art in heaven”....this is a place where humans cannot go...you have to be a spirit (non-material) being to reside in that realm....
But we know that science can also sidetrack the truth by trying to eliminate the need for a Creator.
They give credit to “Mother Nature” whilst ignoring “Father God”....concentrating on the wrong “parent”.
It makes no sense to create life elsewhere and to have it end badly, only to create a different form of life on this planet only to have it go wrong as well....I don’t think that God is that short sighted.
He plans his actions very carefully as we see in the Genesis account...what was planned to take place on a certain “day” was accomplished incrementally, in order, and it laid the foundation for the next ‘day’s’ work to build on. I do not believe that the creative “days” were a mere 24 hours in length. The Hebrew word “yohm” means more that a 24 hour day...it can also mean a period of undetermined length.
Science tells us that the earth itself is very ancient...but life on it is not as old...with humans being the newest creatures to live here. Many creatures were extinct long before man arrived......showing us that creation did not take place in a mere week. Yahweh is a Creator...not a magician.
The word “heaven” in the Bible has a few different meanings that a non native English speaker may not appreciate....even many English speaking church goers may not understand the differences, but they are important....Heaven includes many things, some visible and some invisible.
There is “heaven” where the birds fly....something inside of earth’s atmosphere, where life is sustained by the provision of oxygen.....the higher the altitude, the thinner the oxygen supply becomes....until it runs out altogether and a human needs an artificial oxygen supply to continue living outside of that atmosphere.
There is also the “heavens” where the the sun, moon and stars are located outside of Earth’s atmosphere.
This is the vast Universe that God created “in the beginning”...a time when material creation was brought into existence....the “Big Bang” as it is humorously called by Science.
Then there is “heaven” where God the Creator and his angelic sons reside. Jesus gave his Father a location in the Lord’s Prayer...”Our Father who art in heaven”....this is a place where humans cannot go...you have to be a spirit (non-material) being to reside in that realm....
This is a mistake....humans were created on earth, not somewhere else. God even provided a beautiful garden as a model for what he wanted the rest of the world to look like. He commissioned the humans to “fill the earth” with their children and with a succession of humans beings produced, more workers would be joining those who were already involved in the transformation as they were told to “subdue” the earth outside of the garden....it would be a labor of love, and they would get to enjoy the results of their own enjoyable work. God is a worker and he designed us to be workers too....our physical bodies were not designed to age, get sick and die.....we are made physically up to the task that we were assigned.....and there is nothing like the satisfaction of seeing a project completed...if only they had obeyed God’s simple command....The Bible merely describes a pair who violated the rules and were banished to Earth, so it does not mean that humans on Earth are the only beings in the universe.
Since science is the study of God’s creation, he is the best one to consult when we need answers to our questions. Science can explain a lot of things but God explains what we need to know, not necessarily what we want to know.....man has taken thousands of years to reach his present level of scientific knowledge.I still believe we should approach the words of the Bible scientifically, rather than assuming that this vast universe contains only us humans on Earth.
But we know that science can also sidetrack the truth by trying to eliminate the need for a Creator.
They give credit to “Mother Nature” whilst ignoring “Father God”....concentrating on the wrong “parent”.
“Perhaps” is not a fact...it is speculation. The Bible tells us only what pertains to life on this earth.Perhaps there are other places with their own versions of the Bible, where circumstances differ from ours, yet the truth remains the same.
It makes no sense to create life elsewhere and to have it end badly, only to create a different form of life on this planet only to have it go wrong as well....I don’t think that God is that short sighted.
He plans his actions very carefully as we see in the Genesis account...what was planned to take place on a certain “day” was accomplished incrementally, in order, and it laid the foundation for the next ‘day’s’ work to build on. I do not believe that the creative “days” were a mere 24 hours in length. The Hebrew word “yohm” means more that a 24 hour day...it can also mean a period of undetermined length.
Science tells us that the earth itself is very ancient...but life on it is not as old...with humans being the newest creatures to live here. Many creatures were extinct long before man arrived......showing us that creation did not take place in a mere week. Yahweh is a Creator...not a magician.
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