my parents say we learn from punishment, i am being punished and i HATE it, my parents say we became a better person after punishment, do i deserve it
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No it’s slightly different.
You hated losing your freedom and not being able to do what you wanted to do , your sister felt fear at being locked in her bedroom and lost her freedom to go out. My son suffers from agoraphobia ( fear of going out ) It causes a panic that goes beyond anxiety at times , I feel the same in small enclosed spaces. You didn’t feel that fear and panic. You can only have empathy with that side of things if you get extreme anxiety and feel overwhelmed by it. Even if you Only intended it to be for a shorter period of time, you still inflicted that fear on her, so the time factor is not really relevant. You knew she that he had an issue with being lock in that room.
i dont know i did have some fear at being locked in , my bedroom is small, so i did feel some anxeity at being shut away, do you think thats why my parents gave me a whole weekend of punishment ?
I have no idea you would have to ask them yourself. Have you ever been locked in your bedroom before ?
If you haven’t and it did invoke a small amount of fear, then perhaps in the future you might have more empathy to your sister issue. Try multiplying the fear you felt by 10 - that might help you to understand what panic feels like.
Also your parents were around when you were locked in, have you ever considered what would have happened if there had been a fire while you were out and forgot about your sister.
If you haven’t and it did invoke a small amount of fear, then perhaps in the future you might have more empathy to your sister issue. Try multiplying the fear you felt by 10 - that might help you to understand what panic feels like.
Also your parents were around when you were locked in, have you ever considered what would have happened if there had been a fire while you were out and forgot about your sister.
no its the first time i have ever been locked in my room, i have been confined to my room before but never with the door locked, i have just been told not to come out, it does make a big difference having the door locked knowing you cant get out, i suppose that is the point its a punishment ?
stevesonthebay
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I hear your frustration. Homework is hard or was a hassel fullstop for me. I hated doing it. I wanted to be out and about.
I was in jail and there was literally only 4 walls to stare at. Actually from memory there was an occassional magazine or book around. I was not a good reader. But I would read anything to kill the time if it was available.
Even the bible because that was usually the only book around lol. Were they trying to tell us something or what.
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Taken
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my parents say we learn from punishment, i am being punished and i HATE it, my parents say we became a better person after punishment, do i deserve it
Thanks for sharing.
Wrongdoing - oops
Correction- fix
Consequence-negative
Sometimes the Consequence seems like A punishment…
But really it Just, start to finish, of a wrong to be Amended, That all involved is Just.
That is …Accountability-and a step toward growing in:
Being Upstanding, Wise and Mature.
And … behind your parents door, they are giddy with Pride when their Children figure out, there is more to an apology than words.
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
Thanks for sharing.
Wrongdoing - oops
Correction- fix
Consequence-negative
Sometimes the Consequence seems like A punishment…
But really it Just, start to finish, of a wrong to be Amended, That all involved is Just.
That is …Accountability-and a step toward growing in:
Being Upstanding, Wise and Mature.
And … behind your parents door, they are giddy with Pride when their Children figure out, there is more to an apology than words.
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
it was a punishment, my parents said that i had to pay for what i did to my sister, i did say sorry and my sister did forgive me, but my parents said that i MUST be punished so i learn from my mistake, i was locked in my room from friday evening when returned home from school, i had to eat in my room and was only allowed out for bathroom breaks, my parents made me get up at 7am both on saturday and sunday , after a shower i was locked in my room for the rest of the day, as i said i had tons of schoolwork and punishment essays to write, lights out and bed 9pm , i cant tell you how much i HATED BEING LOCKED UP IT WAS MISREABLE my parents said that is the whole point of punishment do you agree ? did i deserve what i got please me honest ?
sorry i keep repeating myself i suppose i keep thinking someone will think i was punished to serverly, but i dont think that is going to happen ?
soberxp
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Have you read the story of Cain? You just wished to say to God like him, "This is beyond my capacity to bear."
Then the god gives you a mark, and everyone forgets about you. Not forgive about you.
soberxp
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Here is a detailed account of the story of Cain and Abel , with a specific focus on Cain's declaration, "My punishment is greater than I can bear."
### The Story of Cain and Abel
After Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden, they began their family. Eve gave birth to two sons: first Cain, a farmer who worked the ground, and then his younger brother Abel, who became a shepherd .
In the course of time, both brothers brought offerings to the LORD. Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil, while Abel brought the firstborn of his flock, the fat portions . The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering, but He did not look with favor on Cain and his offering . This rejection made Cain very angry, and his face was downcast.
The LORD, in His mercy, confronted Cain, warning him of the danger of his anger. He said, "Why are you angry, and why is your expression downcast? Is it not true that if you do what is right, you will be fine? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at the door. It desires to dominate you, but you must subdue it" . Cain ignored this divine warning.
Consumed by jealousy and rage, Cain lured his brother out into the field. There, he attacked and killed Abel, committing the first murder in human history .
The LORD then asked Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" Feigning ignorance, Cain replied with the infamous lie, "I don't know! Am I my brother's guardian?" . God then confronted Cain with his crime: "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying out to me from the ground!" .
### The Divine Sentence and Cain's Lament
God pronounced a three-fold judgment on Cain for his sin :
1. **The ground was cursed against him**, and it would no longer yield its produce for his labor.
2. **He was banished** to be a restless wanderer on the earth.
3. **He was driven from God's presence**, experiencing a spiritual exile.
It is in response to this judgment that Cain utters the pivotal words of Genesis 4:13. The NET Bible translates his response accurately: **"My punishment is too great to endure!"** .
This statement, "My punishment is greater than I can bear," is layered with meaning . On the surface, Cain laments the totality of his sentence:
- **Vocationally**, as a farmer, the agricultural sterility meant the end of his livelihood.
- **Socially**, being a wanderer meant the loss of community, protection, and identity .
- **Spiritually**, being hidden from God's face was, as the narrative puts it, a living death . In his despair, he adds, "I must hide from your presence. I will be a homeless wanderer on the earth; whoever finds me will kill me" .
However, the context reveals that this is not a cry of repentant sorrow, but of self-pitying despair . He is not confessing his sin ("my iniquity") but complaining about his suffering ("my punishment"). The classic *Matthew Henry's Complete Bible Commentary* notes that instead of justifying God in the sentence, Cain condemns Him, quarreling with the punishment rather than accepting it . He is more concerned about his suffering than his sin. The margin of the 1611 King James Version even offers an alternate reading: "Or, my iniquitie is greater, then that it may be forgiuen," capturing a sense of despair that refuses to accept God's mercy .
### God's Response: Justice Tempered by Mercy
Despite Cain's unrepentant heart, God responded not with further judgment, but with a measure of grace. He declared that if anyone killed Cain, they would suffer vengeance sevenfold . To enforce this, "the Lord put a special mark on Cain so that no one who found him would strike him down" . This mark was a protective sign, an act of mercy that shielded the undeserving and demonstrated God's sovereign grace even in the face of heinous sin . Following this, Cain left the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden, where he eventually built a city and started a family line .
This story ultimately points forward to a greater truth. Cain's lament reveals the unbearable weight of sin that all humanity carries. The Gospel Coalition blog reflects that every sinner, like Cain, would have to echo these words when facing divine judgment . The good news, it concludes, is that Jesus Christ, the "greater Abel," bore that unbearable punishment on the cross, providing the mercy that Cain could not—or would not—seek .
Taken
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Your parents called that a punishment…
I called that a “consequence - Negative”.
Point being… every “action” has a “consequence”… positive or negative.
Younger / children BEGIN learning to “apologize”… and THEN, all is GOOD.
THEN “learn” “consequence” / separation…
Face to corner, Time out, sent to room…
THEN, back with “group”,
Maturing / Wisdom LESSON beyond…
“apology” / “separation”…. IS:…
The lesson of “reparation”…
Fixing … “a mess”, “a broken something”, “a return of something”… a works to “replace” a broken, ruined, “something”…
^ and realize to “not do again”…and don’t.
And learning “a repeat”…negative consequences “increase.”
(point)… Apologizing “over and over”…without an “increase in negative consequences” often leads to a “an” Adult,
Unleashed into Society…Increasing in wrong doing “over and over”…
With a “laughable feather tap consequence”…
Commonly called A “Rap sheet”….
And a shocked Adult, crying that a “strong negative consequence is WRONG /UNFAIR”.
Kudos to your Parents…
They are Teaching you … How much they Love you… preparing you… for acceptable behaviors in a society… that does NOT love you, and Are willing to hand you a shocking harsh Negative consequence, for any wrong doing “in society”.
It is the “big picture” your parents are teaching you…. Thank THEM….and be glad they love you TO teach you.
God bless you.
Glory to God,
Taken
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You tortured your sister by exploiting her deepest fear.
You didnt forget she was locked in her room.
You left with your friend because you thought you could lie and say you forgot.
If your sister is claustrophobic that means she has to have a window in her room.
Why didn't she go out the window?
Even on the second floor, she would be able to free herself.
She could open the window and scream for help. People call police. She files a complaint. You're arrested for child abuse and unlawful imprisonment.
Sounds like you're a Sadist. And a narcissist.
You admit you loved hearing your older sister scream in terror.And rather than show remourse,you're upset at having to answer for it.
Heck yes,you should be punished.
Your parent should have a PET scan performed.
Taken
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my sisters bedroom window only opens at the top and is one floor up, so is impossible for her to climb out, i have shown remorse and my sister has forgiven me, as i said i was punished last weekend by being locked up in my bedroom for a weekend, i HATED it so much the boredom was terrible, i missed out on going bowling with friends , and as i said i spent most of the weekend at my desk doing schoolwork and writing punishment essays, i really found the punishment hard WHY NO SYMPATHY ?You tortured your sister by exploiting her deepest fear.
You didnt forget she was locked in her room.
You left with your friend because you thought you could lie and say you forgot.
If your sister is claustrophobic that means she has to have a window in her room.
Why didn't she go out the window?
Even on the second floor, she would be able to free herself.
She could open the window and scream for help. People call police. She files a complaint. You're arrested for child abuse and unlawful imprisonment.
Sounds like you're a Sadist. And a narcissist.
You admit you loved hearing your older sister scream in terror.And rather than show remourse,you're upset at having to answer for it.
Heck yes,you should be punished.
Your parent should have a PET scan performed.
the punishment was MISREABLE i was escorted to my room when i returned home from school, i lost my phone , pc and tv i was given dinner then locked in my room for the night, lights out and bed 9pm, my parents then woke me up on the saturday at 7am after a shower and breakfast i was locked in for the rest of the day, i had to sit at my desk and do schoolwork plus write punishment essays, i had to eat in my room and was only allowed out for the bathroom, i spent saturday night locked up, then all day sunday locked up plus more schoolwork and punishment essays, then locked up sunday night lights out and bed 9pm, monday freedom and back to school, the hardest part of the punishment was hearing my sisters getting ready to go out on the saturday afternoon, knowing i could go nowhere as i was shut in , it was a terrible punishment i dont think i deserved that much punishment do you ?
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