GOD's True Israel

[Davy]

The Gentiles were grafted into the Vine, which started with Israel. Branches were broken off. But according Rom. 11, where Paul makes a clear distinction between Jews and Gentiles); Israel ( a remnant population of Jews, will be grafted into that Vine. Jesus is the Vine.

Paul is speaking only... of his own brethren of Jews of the "house of Judah" about his brethren that still reject Lord Jesus Christ being able to be graffed in again once they believe. That does not involve the ten scattered tribes of the "house of Israel" that were already long gone before Christ's 1st coming.

And since in Ezekiel 37, God revealed how the two separate 'houses' are still... apart to this day, because He showed they both won't be gathered back together until Jesus returns, then we shouldn't think of the 'majority' of the seed of Israel (all 12 tribes) as being separate from Christ's Church, for the scattered tribes were the main founders of the Western Christian nations, which was prophecy via Ephraim in Genesis 48 about the "multitude of nations." What you are missing is not tracing GOD's Own Birthright He first gave through Abraham which included The Gospel of Jesus Christ...

Gal 3:6-9
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, "In thee shall all nations be blessed."
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
KJV

Gal 3:27-29
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
KJV

The above reveals that believing Gentiles are going to INHERIT with Abraham, the seed that Israel came through.

 

[Davy]

There is one body, verse 16 says. We have been reconciled into one body. Verse 14, “God has broken down the thing that separated us, the middle wall of partition.” Verse 16, “The system of commandments and ordinances, the Jewish ceremonies have done away with in Christ.” And so, all of the barriers between Jew and Gentile are done away that the church would be one new man made up of Jew and Gentile."

The Church title is not Israel, it is the Body of Christ. God is NOT done with Israel ... you know - the Jews.

The word Church simply means a congregation, a gathering. The OFFICIAL title for Christ's Church that Apostle Paul gave is "the commonwealth of Israel"...

Eph 2:11-13
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
KJV

Paul even links God's "covenants of promise" above with that "commonwealth of Israel" that he used to point to Christ's Church. That... is what Christ's Church is, a commonwealth of nations that recognize Jesus Christ as their Savior. So it is not just solely on the Church building level. Christ's Church is a many-membered body of believers in MANY nations.

Please read Romans 11. A 1/3 remnant of the Jews is Israel spoken of in this chapter. They will be enlightened during the Great Tribulation and be grafted into the VINE.

To think the Church is Israel is Replacement Theology and wrong! God started with the chosen nation. Christ is not Israel. Therefore the Body of Christ is not Israel.

I have read and studied Romans 11, all of the Book of Romans actually, and all of the Book of Galatians, which it appears you need to read.

Let's see, Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of The Church.

Lord Jesus Christ is also KING OF ISRAEL.

How can the two NOT be associated???

What you sound like is you have been influenced with some bad info from the Pre-trib Rapture school, and if I recall, John MacArthur was a follower of Pre-trib theory.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Paul is speaking only... of his own brethren of Jews of the "house of Judah" about his brethren that still reject Lord Jesus Christ being able to be graffed in again once they believe. That does not involve the ten scattered tribes of the "house of Israel" that were already long gone before Christ's 1st coming.

In Rom. 11, Paul was from the tribebof Benjamin, and identifies himself as an Israelite. The time in which he is speaking that all Israel will be saved is future. Don't he ignorant!

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Rom. 11:25-26

"When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in" means when the Church is complete. What happens then? The Great Tribulation and Rapture.

And since in Ezekiel 37, God revealed how the two separate 'houses' are still... apart to this day, because He showed they both won't be gathered back together until Jesus returns, then we shouldn't think of the 'majority' of the seed of Israel (all 12 tribes) as being separate from Christ's Church

REV. 7:5-8 has not happened yet. It explains that God has preserved people's from the 12 tribes (unbeknownst to us) and will choose 12k from each tribe ( male virgins) appatently to evangelize the Jews. EACH TRIBE IS MENTIONED - CAN'T YOU READ?
Oh, I guess you have adopted some symbolic bs about those verses?

 

[Davy]

In Rom. 11, Paul was from the tribebof Benjamin, and identifies himself as an Israelite. The time in which he is speaking that all Israel will be saved is future. Don't he ignorant!

I'm not ignorant, so let's not start calling each other names. You will regret it.

I have to correct you; Paul said he was a JEW born of the tribe of Benjamin. Would you please explain how that is possible, since the title of JEW originates from the tribe of Judah, and the tribe of Benjamin is a different tribe than the tribe of Judah? Then we will see who is Biblically ignorant, and who is not.

 

[Davy]

"When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in" means when the Church is complete. What happens then? The Great Tribulation and Rapture.

No, that's the false Pre-trib Rapture theory idea that the fullness of the Gentiles completes prior to Jesus' coming to gather His saints.

The fullness of the Gentiles won't actually be complete until Jesus comes AFTER... the tribulation. You can read Jesus saying His coming to gather His saints being AFTER the tribulation in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27.

REV. 7:5-8 has not happened yet. It explains that God has preserved people's from the 12 tribes (unbeknownst to us) and will choose 12k from each tribe ( male virgins) appatently to evangelize the Jews. EACH TRIBE IS MENTIONED - CAN'T YOU READ?
Oh, I guess you have adopted some symbolic bs about those verses?

Those Revelation 7 ONE... through EIGHT verses are about Christ's sealing of His elect of the seed of Israel in prep for the time of great tribulation.


(Again, you need to stop pushing slander; my Heavenly Father won't put up with it, because what I am showing you is actually The Word of God. If I was following falsehood from those like the false Pre-trib Rapture doctors like you are doing, then His rebuke would be against me, but it's not.)

The main Message of Revelation 7 is the SEALING against deception for the END of this world during the tribulation. That includes the Revelation 7:9 "great multitude" also who go through the tribulation. It does not specifically say... that "great multitude" is sealed with God's Seal, but they are, because it says they came out of great tribulation and washed their robes in the Blood of The Lamb (Jesus). That is not simply just about their having Faith, it is about their also going through the "great tribulation" and not being deceived by the coming false-Messiah who comes first.

Or haven't you studied the Revelation 9 about that 'sealing'?

Rev 9:3-6
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
KJV

Eph 4:30
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
KJV

How is it that you do not seem to understand that 'sealing' of Rev.7 is about God's Seal by The Holy Spirit upon those in Christ Jesus? And since the 144,000 are 'sealed' with God's Seal in prep for their going through the "great tribulation", then why don't you understand that means the REST of Christ's SEALED Church also will go through the tribulation??

I'll tell you why; it's because of John Nelson Darby's false Dispensationalist theories which are part of the false Pre-trib Rapture theory he preached in 1830's Britain.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

I'm not ignorant, so let's not start calling each other names. You will regret it.

I have to correct you; Paul said he was a JEW born of the tribe of Benjamin. Would you please explain how that is possible, since the title of JEW originates from the tribe of Judah, and the tribe of Benjamin is a different tribe than the tribe of Judah? Then we will see who is Biblically ignorant, and who is not.

Ignorance is not an all encompassing judgment of your knowledge. It can be applied to specific details that you ignor/ overlook, missed, that's all.

Apostle Paul identified himself as both a Jew and an Israelite to emphasize his heritage and legitimacy. He said, "I am a Jew" in Acts 22:3, and identified as "an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin" in Romans 11:1, highlighting his deep Jewish roots.
They are all Jews who possess the Old Testament religion, yesterday and today, regardless of their specific tribe of orgin.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

No, that's the false Pre-trib Rapture theory idea that the fullness of the Gentiles completes prior to Jesus' coming to gather His saints.

The time of the "Fullness of the Gentiles" does not necessarily identify whether it is pre-trib., mid-trib. or post-trib; just that it signals the end time scenario ( GT).

The fullness of the Gentiles won't actually be complete until Jesus comes AFTER... the tribulation. You can read Jesus saying His coming to gather His saints being AFTER the tribulation in Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27.

No.
Matt. 24:29
Immediately after the distress of those days ...
[ the Tribulation of those specific events briefly just mentioned in partial list if things in the previous 25 verses. Revelation 6-19 covers mich more detailed information. So again, those days does not mean all 1290 days. Jesus returns and the Tribulation continues ... Post tribbers think when He returns and every eye sees Him, that's the last day of the GT. It continues. The wrath of God is in the SEVEN BOWLS that are released AFTER THE 7TH TRUMPET. He comes to war against the world. Do think Armageddon lasts one day?

Again, you need to stop pushing slander; my Heavenly Father won't put up with it,

Slander? I quoted the Bible. You just have a different interpretation.

How is it that you do not seem to understand that 'sealing' of Rev.7 is about God's Seal by The Holy Spirit upon those in Christ Jesus? And since the 144,000 are 'sealed' with God's Seal in prep for their going through the "great tribulation", then why don't you understand that means the REST of Christ's SEALED Church also will go through the tribulation??

I'll tell you why; it's because of John Nelson Darby's false Dispensationalist theories which are part of the false Pre-trib Rapture theory he preached in 1830's Britain.

I understand that I a sealed along with all present born again Christians. And I understand that a remnant Jewish population will also be sealed as well as the 144k. This does not necessitate the time of the Rapture. The great multitude just cam out-of the GT. That does NOT mean it's over. It stoll continues.
FYI, I AM NOT A PRE-TRIBBER. I HOLD A MID-TRIB VIEW (7TH TRUMPET/ PRE-WRATH).

 

[Davy]

Ignorance is not an all encompassing judgment of your knowledge. It can be applied to specific details that you ignor/ overlook, missed, that's all.

Apostle Paul identified himself as both a Jew and an Israelite to emphasize his heritage and legitimacy. He said, "I am a Jew" in Acts 22:3, and identified as "an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin" in Romans 11:1, highlighting his deep Jewish roots.
They are all Jews who possess the Old Testament religion, yesterday and today, regardless of their specific tribe of orgin.

So Abraham was a Jew, even though that title of Jew did not yet exist in Abraham's day, simply because Judah where it came from didn't exist yet? Your Biblical ignorance is showing.


The following is a quote from JEWISH historian Josephus who lived in 100 A.D. He is quoting the prophet Nehemiah.

Josephus below revealed the title of JEW originated from the sole tribe of JUDAH, and that is the name those of the small remnant of the SOUTHERN "house of Judah" used when they returned to Jerusalem from their Babylon captivity. Note his last statement I put in red for emphasis...

7. Now when he was come to Babylon, and had taken with him many of his countrymen, who voluntarily followed him, he came to Jerusalem in the twenty and fifth year of the reign of Xerxes. And when he had shown the epistles to God 13 he gave them to Adeus, and to the other governors. He also called together all the people to Jerusalem, and stood in the midst of the temple, and made the following speech to them: "You know, O Jews, that God hath kept our fathers, Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in mind continually, and for the sake of their righteousness hath not left off the care of you. Indeed he hath assisted me in gaining this authority of the king to raise up our wall, and finish what is wanting of the temple. I desire you, therefore who well know the ill-will our neighboring nations bear to us, and that when once they are made sensible that we are in earnest about building, they will come upon us, and contrive many ways of obstructing our works, that you will, in the first place, put your trust in God, as in him that will assist us against their hatred, and to intermit building neither night nor day, but to use all diligence, and to hasten on the work, now we have this especial opportunity for it." When he had said this, he gave order that the rulers should measure the wall, and part the work of it among the people, according to their villages and cities, as every one's ability should require. And when he had added this promise, that he himself, with his servants, would assist them, he dissolved the assembly. So the Jews prepared for the work: that is the name they are called by from the day that they came up from Babylon, which is taken from the tribe of Judah, which came first to these places, and thence both they and the country gained that appellation. ​

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What Josephus, himself a Jewish historian, showed by that quote, was that ONLY those of the southern "kingdom of Judah" called themselves by that title of Jew. It means the northern ten tribes did NOT call themselves by that title of JEW. Viola! thus your Biblical ignorance!

And IF... you try to say the ten tribes also took that title of Jew after the Babylon captivity, you really... would be showing your ignorance, because God had already removed... all the northern ten tribes out of the holy land captive to the lands of Assyria and the Medes PRIOR to the "house of Judah" going into their Babylon captivity. This is well... written of in God's Word.

 

[Davy]

The time of the "Fullness of the Gentiles" does not necessarily identify whether it is pre-trib., mid-trib. or post-trib; just that it signals the end time scenario ( GT).

No.
Matt. 24:29
Immediately after the distress of those days ...
[ the Tribulation of those specific events briefly just mentioned in partial list if things in the previous 25 verses. Revelation 6-19 covers mich more detailed information. So again, those days does not mean all 1290 days. Jesus returns and the Tribulation continues ... Post tribbers think when He returns and every eye sees Him, that's the last day of the GT. It continues. The wrath of God is in the SEVEN BOWLS that are released AFTER THE 7TH TRUMPET. He comes to war against the world. Do think Armageddon lasts one day?

When Jesus comes on the 7th Trumpet, that IS... the LAST DAY of this present world, and when He begins His eternal reign, on earth, as written. Thus your word play fidgeting does not work, because God's written Word is clear on that "day of the Lord" when Jesus takes His earthly throne inherited from his father David, and begins literal reign here on earth over all nations (Ps.2; Zech.14).

Slander? I quoted the Bible. You just have a different interpretation.

You're not going to get out of that so easy. Here is what you said to me... and I quote...

"Ignorance is not an all encompassing judgment of your knowledge. It can be applied to specific details that you ignor/ overlook, missed, that's all."​

Your statement to me automatically assumes I am in ignorance. And it was about the subject you mentioned here in the following statement you also made to me...

"In Rom. 11, Paul was from the tribebof Benjamin, and identifies himself as an Israelite. The time in which he is speaking that all Israel will be saved is future. Don't he ignorant!"​

I have already proven through God's written Word when that fullness of the Gentiles will be; which will happen when Lord Jesus returns at His 2nd coming back to this earth, AFTER... the tribulation like He showed...

Matt 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
KJV

Now if YOU were not so BIBLICAL IGNORANT of much of God's written Word, then you would 'know'... the fullness of the Gentiles isn't even totally complete until the END of Christ's future "thousand years" reign! Christ's future Millennium will be a time of great teaching to the unbelieving Gentiles, and the unbelieving Jews. Teaching God's Word will be one of the jobs of Christ's elect priests in that future time. If you knew that from God's Old Testament prophets, you wouldn't be ignorant of that also!

I understand that I a sealed along with all present born again Christians. And I understand that a remnant Jewish population will also be sealed as well as the 144k. This does not necessitate the time of the Rapture. The great multitude just cam out-of the GT. That does NOT mean it's over. It stoll continues.
FYI, I AM NOT A PRE-TRIBBER. I HOLD A MID-TRIB VIEW (7TH TRUMPET/ PRE-WRATH).

Not if you have succumbed to man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory you are not 'sealed' with God's Seal.

That false Pre-trib theory is designed to lead deceived brethren to the first supernatural Messiah that shows up in Jerusalem, which will be a FAKE. They even teach the two in the field, one taken and the other left, BACWARDS from how it is written!

And NEWS FLASH - a Mid-Trib view is the SAME THING as a Pre-trib view, because BOTH doctrines present a 'rapture' PRIOR to when Jesus said He comes to gather His saints, which He said will be AFTER the tribulation.

The actual time of the coming "great tribulation" will be the LATTER HALF of the Daniel 9:27 symbolic "one week", which is equal to three and half years, or 1260 days. Given based on lunar timing the lunar timing of 42 months is just short of the 1260 days; the 42 month reign of the "dragon" will be over the whole world just prior to Christ's return to gather His faithful Church. Moreover, Lord Jesus said He shortened the tribulation for the sake of His elect.
(God's children are children of light, so prophecy given according to the solar reckoning is for God's people. But Satan's host are children of darkness, and timing giving about them is based on the lunar cycle, thus the 42 months. The solar reckoning is about 10 days longer in a year than the lunar cycle.)

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Josephus below revealed the title of JEW originated from the sole tribe of JUDAH, and that is the name those of the small remnant of the SOUTHERN "house of Judah" used when they returned to Jerusalem from their Babylon captivity. Note his last statement I put in red for emphasis

Yes, no problem with that ... Judah >Ju = Jew. Historically that is correct.
Jewish today refers to those who follow Judaism. And so we associate all the Israelites as following the same religion.
Jewish denotes the modern ethnoreligiuos identity and cultural community.
Likewise, anyone alive today who descended from any of the other 11 tribes _ who follow Judaism _ are all recognized as JEWS.
The claim of ten lost tribes is mysterious one; but God knows and has kept track of them. In 722 BC they were exiled into Assysia. Some assimilated into the culture, but some didn't a d held onto their religion and others returned to Judah . But a hundred years or so later the Babylonian empire recaptured many of them, 15k - 50k ... I'd say the tribes were reunited, not holding to their tribal names but they were there. A generation later, Cyrus let 42k return to Jerusalem. Were they all Judahites - NO.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Now if YOU were not so BIBLICAL IGNORANT

Let's just end this ... your ignorant ... I'm ignorant ... we've hit a wall! That's enough, I'm ending the conversion ... until Jesus returns -- then in the Millennial Kingdom, things will be resolved and we will be able to talk.

 

[Davy]

Yes, no problem with that ... Judah >Ju = Jew. Historically that is correct.

The actual Hebrew word for Jew is Yehuwdiy (Strong's OT:3064). In the Greek it is ioudaios (Strong's NT:2453).

And historically... that title of Jew was only applied to and used by those living in Jerusalem-Judea that made up the southern "kingdom of Judah" after God had split old Israel into two separate kingdoms because of Solomon's folly.

The ten northern tribes were gone, Josephus even said in his day (100 A.D.) the ten tribes were still scattered beyond the Euphrates river, and were a great number of people. The ten tribes lost their heritage as part of Israel when they went into captivity among the Assyrians and Medes, never to return.

Some try to prove the ten tribes returned after the Babylon captivity, referring to the prophetess Anna in Luke 2:36 who was of the northern tribe Asher. But they forget 2 Chronicles 11 that reveals a small number of northern ten tribe Israelites left the north and joined with Judah because of Jeroboam having setup calf idol worship in the northern kingdom.

Thus with the ten northern tribes gone, the Jews of the southern "kingdom of Judah" became the only Israelites left in the land. Those became known as the only ones that made up the nation of Israel, even the foreigners referring to them all as Jews. Even some Jewish scholars believe the ten tribes are forever LOST and no more.

Yet God showed many prophecies in His Word about the ten tribes after... He had removed them captive among the Gentiles. One of the strongest proofs is Apostle Paul quoting from the Book of Hosea in Romans 9 to Roman Gentile believers on Christ Jesus. That Book of Hosea was written to, and mainly about the ten northern tribe "house of Israel" just prior to God scattering them. Yet God gave a prophecy there about His future gathering of them back to the holy lands, and Paul quoted that to GENTILES in the Church. That shows Apostle Paul well knew about this matter I am speaking about.

And there is a concerted attack... upon the Biblical concept of the two 'houses' in God's Word. I can show some all day long directly from Bible Scripture where the "house of Judah" and "house of Israel" are given within the same sentence in God's Own speaking, and they will still deny there's any separation of the old kingdom of Israel. And that includes the quoted Jeremiah 31 prophecy about the two houses repeated in Hebrews 8 of the New Testament.

 

[Davy]

Let's just end this ... your ignorant ... I'm ignorant ... we've hit a wall! That's enough, I'm ending the conversion ... until Jesus returns -- then in the Millennial Kingdom, things will be resolved and we will be able to talk.

Yep. I don't claim to know everything, never have. But I do know what God's Word says as written, because I listen to God in His Word, and not man in his word.

 

[Heart2Soul]

We are at war with Iran because we are no longer a sovereign nation. The last attempt was made with JFK, when he tried to prevent our "boss" from developing nuclear weapons. And you see what happened to him. Now they have over 300 of them and soon they won't need the United States any longer, after the only country standing in the way ( Iran) is neutralized.

The reason Trump is attacking Iran is because they openly stated in front of a camera that they have nuclear weapons and capabilities and are aiming them directly at the United States. Along with that is the brutal genocide of the Iranian people, Christians and Americans in Iran perpetrated by the terrorist regime.

 

[Luther7]

The actual Hebrew word for Jew is Yehuwdiy (Strong's OT:3064). In the Greek it is ioudaios (Strong's NT:2453).

And historically... that title of Jew was only applied to and used by those living in Jerusalem-Judea that made up the southern "kingdom of Judah" after God had split old Israel into two separate kingdoms because of Solomon's folly.

The ten northern tribes were gone, Josephus even said in his day (100 A.D.) the ten tribes were still scattered beyond the Euphrates river, and were a great number of people. The ten tribes lost their heritage as part of Israel when they went into captivity among the Assyrians and Medes, never to return.

Some try to prove the ten tribes returned after the Babylon captivity, referring to the prophetess Anna in Luke 2:36 who was of the northern tribe Asher. But they forget 2 Chronicles 11 that reveals a small number of northern ten tribe Israelites left the north and joined with Judah because of Jeroboam having setup calf idol worship in the northern kingdom.

Thus with the ten northern tribes gone, the Jews of the southern "kingdom of Judah" became the only Israelites left in the land. Those became known as the only ones that made up the nation of Israel, even the foreigners referring to them all as Jews. Even some Jewish scholars believe the ten tribes are forever LOST and no more.

Yet God showed many prophecies in His Word about the ten tribes after... He had removed them captive among the Gentiles. One of the strongest proofs is Apostle Paul quoting from the Book of Hosea in Romans 9 to Roman Gentile believers on Christ Jesus. That Book of Hosea was written to, and mainly about the ten northern tribe "house of Israel" just prior to God scattering them. Yet God gave a prophecy there about His future gathering of them back to the holy lands, and Paul quoted that to GENTILES in the Church. That shows Apostle Paul well knew about this matter I am speaking about.

And there is a concerted attack... upon the Biblical concept of the two 'houses' in God's Word. I can show some all day long directly from Bible Scripture where the "house of Judah" and "house of Israel" are given within the same sentence in God's Own speaking, and they will still deny there's any separation of the old kingdom of Israel. And that includes the quoted Jeremiah 31 prophecy about the two houses repeated in Hebrews 8 of the New Testament.

You said: "And that includes the quoted Jeremiah 31 prophecy about the two houses repeated in Hebrews 8 of the New Testament."

The reason Trump is attacking Iran is because they openly stated in front of a camera that they have nuclear weapons and capabilities and are aiming them directly at the United States. Along with that is the brutal genocide of the Iranian people, Christians and Americans in Iran perpetrated by the terrorist regime.

Internet search:
( No nuclear weapons):
Based on available information as of March 2026, Iran has never officially stated that it has nuclear weapons. Instead, Iran has consistently maintained that its nuclear program is for peaceful, civilian purposes and has often cited a religious decree (fatwa) from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that forbids the development or use of weapons of mass destruction.

(No genocide against anyone):
Based on historical records and reports from international organizations, Iran has not committed a formally recognized, systematic genocide against Christians within its own borders in modern history.
However, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been accused of perpetrating severe, systematic, and targeted persecution of Christians—particularly converts from Islam


Yes, Iran has been responsible for the deaths of American citizens and service members over several decades, primarily through proxy groups and attacks in the Middle East rather than direct, large-scale attacks on the US homeland.

Key details regarding Iran's actions against Americans include:
Historical Attacks: Iran-backed Hezbollah was responsible for the 1983 US Embassy bombing in Beirut (killing 17 Americans) and the subsequent Marine barracks bombing.
Iraq/Syria Conflicts: Iranian-backed militias have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. service members in Iraq and Syria, particularly through the use of sophisticated roadside bombs (IEDs).
Recent Activity: Between October 2023 and early 2024, Iran-backed groups were responsible for over 180 attacks on U.S. forces in the Middle East, including a January 2024 drone attack in Jordan that killed three U.S. soldiers.
Targeting Civilians: Iranian-backed groups have kidnapped and killed American citizens in Lebanon and Iraq.

( Indirect involvement, similar to what the U.S. and other countries do. And of course I do not agree with any deaths, but you have to go back to 1983 to look for an event of indirect involvement that unfortunately took the lives of 17 American soldiers ( not civilians).
However, this was half the amount of lives lost compared to an incident about 20 years earlier, when the Israeli government DIRECTLY ATTACKED THE U.S.S. LIBERTY, killing 34 American soldiers and injuring dozens of others.Most people don't know about the day Israel attacked America because our government DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO COVER IT UP.

 

[n2thelight]

If... you were able to switch off your love for Judaism's false traditions, and instead connect to the spiritual mind in Christ, then you would KNOW beyond all doubt that Jesus of Nazareth is GOD come in the flesh, which is what His Title "Immanuel" of Isaiah 7:14 means per Matthew 1:23. But you instead REJECT those Bible Scripture proofs because of your listening to Judaism instead! So your problem is simple, you just have not realized it yet. But YOU WILL, (if not in the this world), RECOGNIZE JESUS OF NAZARETH AS GOD THE SON when He returns and you see Him as He is.

Jesus is not God

 

[n2thelight]

Sorry, I cannot take your side about your views concerning Iran.

I'm a U.S. veteran and I have a friend that was on board the USS Cole which radical Islam attacked and killed 17 U.S. Navy servicemen. I've been to Iran also when the Shah was a U.S. ally. After radical Islam took over Iran, it has been a major supporter of terrorist attacks against the U.S. and the free nations. And Iran's main support comes from Communist Russia and Red China. And their alignment with Russia (symbolic of Esau) is Biblical (Ezek.38).

Iran has... directly attacked components of the United States. In 1979, Iranian radical Muslims seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran, and held American hostages for over a year. Iran has been a major supporter of Lebanon's radical Hezbollah terrorists. On June 23 Iran launched missiles at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, a forward base for U.S. central command. The list of Iranian involvement in terror operations against Israel and the U.S. is long dating from 1979 to present.

How many of our men died on the USS Liberty?

 

[Davy]

Jesus is not God

Matthew 1:23 says Jesus is... GOD. So do many other Scriptures, even Isaiah 9:6.

 

[Davy]

How many of our men died on the USS Liberty?

Over a hundred casualties, is all I remember, killed or wounded.

 

[Heart2Soul]

You said: "And that includes the quoted Jeremiah 31 prophecy about the two houses repeated in Hebrews 8 of the New Testament."

Internet search:
( No nuclear weapons):
Based on available information as of March 2026, Iran has never officially stated that it has nuclear weapons. Instead, Iran has consistently maintained that its nuclear program is for peaceful, civilian purposes and has often cited a religious decree (fatwa) from Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that forbids the development or use of weapons of mass destruction.

(No genocide against anyone):
Based on historical records and reports from international organizations, Iran has not committed a formally recognized, systematic genocide against Christians within its own borders in modern history.
However, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been accused of perpetrating severe, systematic, and targeted persecution of Christians—particularly converts from Islam


Yes, Iran has been responsible for the deaths of American citizens and service members over several decades, primarily through proxy groups and attacks in the Middle East rather than direct, large-scale attacks on the US homeland.

Key details regarding Iran's actions against Americans include:
Historical Attacks: Iran-backed Hezbollah was responsible for the 1983 US Embassy bombing in Beirut (killing 17 Americans) and the subsequent Marine barracks bombing.
Iraq/Syria Conflicts: Iranian-backed militias have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. service members in Iraq and Syria, particularly through the use of sophisticated roadside bombs (IEDs).
Recent Activity: Between October 2023 and early 2024, Iran-backed groups were responsible for over 180 attacks on U.S. forces in the Middle East, including a January 2024 drone attack in Jordan that killed three U.S. soldiers.
Targeting Civilians: Iranian-backed groups have kidnapped and killed American citizens in Lebanon and Iraq.

( Indirect involvement, similar to what the U.S. and other countries do. And of course I do not agree with any deaths, but you have to go back to 1983 to look for an event of indirect involvement that unfortunately took the lives of 17 American soldiers ( not civilians).
However, this was half the amount of lives lost compared to an incident about 20 years earlier, when the Israeli government DIRECTLY ATTACKED THE U.S.S. LIBERTY, killing 34 American soldiers and injuring dozens of others.Most people don't know about the day Israel attacked America because our government DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO COVER IT UP.

Whatever news source or program you are listening to is full of misinformation. Trump sent planes in to destroy the bunker holding their vast supply of uranium used to make nuclear weapons.