Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[Reggie Belafonte]

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I know what such truly is in fact.

Nothing wrong with Nationalism at all ! but in regards what the Socialist push in such regards, is clearly not Nationalism at all in the way that say the UK or the Commonwealth their of Nationalism is about in fact !

The so called Nationalism that Socialist bark on about is nothing to do with our past or present in fact, clearly nothing at all to do with such, nor is our Miliatarism comming from such an angle as Socialist Communist play out, such outright lies and deceptions.

Economic self-sufficiency ? their issues come only form a Communist angle deceptions and lies in fact.

Any Nation would be stupid not to have self-sufficancy ! just as one could ask, are you yourself self sufficant ? if you are not, one is clearly just a jerk, or that stupid to be a Communist.

We do not incist on ESS, but not to be just anyones fool ! like selling ones self out as a whore.

Even Hitlers Nazi party was not only just on about ESS but expantion just like all Communism is in fact ! as Communism is all that is Nazi as well and Fascist !

Look at China it's Fascist Communist and clearly looking after number one first and foremost in fact, sure the world is it's end game. anyone who does not understand that mush be a total jerk.

One has to be carful not to be just totaly swallowing crap that comes from an encycopedia.

 

[Button]

I know what such truly is in fact.

Nothing wrong with Nationalism at all ! but in regards what the Socialist push in such regards, is clearly not Nationalism at all in the way that say the UK or the Commonwealth their of Nationalism is about in fact !

The so called Nationalism that Socialist bark on about is nothing to do with our past or present in fact, clearly nothing at all to do with such, nor is our Miliatarism comming from such an angle as Socialist Communist play out, such outright lies and deceptions.

Economic self-sufficiency ? their issues come only form a Communist angle deceptions and lies in fact.

Any Nation would be stupid not to have self-sufficancy ! just as one could ask, are you yourself self sufficant ? if you are not, one is clearly just a jerk, or that stupid to be a Communist.

We do not incist on ESS, but not to be just anyones fool ! like selling ones self out as a whore.

Even Hitlers Nazi party was not only just on about ESS but expantion just like all Communism is in fact ! as Communism is all that is Nazi as well and Fascist !

Look at China it's Fascist Communist and clearly looking after number one first and foremost in fact, sure the world is it's end game. anyone who does not understand that mush be a total jerk.

I've come to realize there are those who crow against Zionism,Israel,Nationalism,know nothing about any such thing,just to crow and hope they tick people off.

Hell of a hobby. Pun intended.

One has to be carful not to be just totaly swallowing crap that comes from an encycopedia.

True.
You'll notice it was a Jewish Encyclopedia? ;)

 

[Aunty Jane]

You are wrong ! I can see the big picture totaly !..

Not even partially Reggie.....your focus is clouded by worldly politics.

It's Satanic to claim that nothing happens in this world without Christ Jesus permission !
Clearly you do not serve Christ Jesus because your gods are not worthy in fact !

That is a broad brush stroke when you don’t know the God I worship. Jesus doesn’t know the god you worship if you think that God cannot save his own people.....what you miss is that God created a new “Israel” since the old one let him down too many times. (Matt 23:37-39)

Paul told us that the true “Israel” is no longer those by birth, but by adoption through faith in the Savior Jesus, maintaining all the rights of a legitimate son. (Gal 4:4-5; Rom 8:14-16)

John the Baptist reminded the Jewish leaders that lineage meant nothing in disobedience....
“When he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to the place of his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Therefore produce fruit consistent with repentance. And don’t presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that God is able to raise up children for Abraham from these stones! Even now the ax is ready to strike the root of the trees! Therefore, every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.” (Matt 3:7-10 HCSB)

There was the warning about who the “children of Abraham” are in the Christian Era......God can raise up a new and obedient “Israel” who will do what fleshly Israel failed to do....the axe was already at the base of the tree, so that when Israel executed their own Messiah, old Israel was abandoned, cut down, and a new “Israel” came into existence at Pentecost, with the anointing Christ’s disciples who received the Holy Spirit....these ones were adopted to replace those who never quite got the point of being obedient to their God. All of their covenants required their obedience.

Islam intent is to kill every one of your Religion in fact just as they will any Gay etc that is not worthy of their gods of Islam ! did you not know that is a fact ! so stop serving gods of Religious Lies and deceptions and delusions !

Islam is not the only threat to genuine Christianity.....the whole of Christendom is a worse threat because they are the ones who profess to follow Christ....but they deny him by their works of disobedience, disunity and friendship with the world (James 4:4) just like the first century Jews did....they have a form of godliness, but fail to live up to the teachings of true Christianity. (2 Tim 3:1-5)

Their are worthy Jews in the State of Israel to the OT ! nothing is wrong with the OT, for they can easy come to Christ Jesus, just as it was 2000 years ago ! they can be our little brother that was Lost like the prodical son.

Your attack is on all of the people of the State.

The people of Israel have nothing to fear in my ‘attack’, as it is written in prophesy that only a remnant of natural Israel will be saved (Rom 9:27-29)

In Eph 2:12-22 Paul explains why the Gentiles had to come into God’s arrangement because they were always in his purpose from the beginning anyway....according to Moses the promises made to Abraham were for the benefit of people of all the nations, not just Jews. (Gen 22:18; Acts 10:34-35)

Your comming from the Socialist MS Media's possition of outright Lies ! Israel was attacked fool ! and nothing but underhanded gutless intent played on the Jews ! For their whole intent clearly was and is to creat a Holocaust of all Jews in fact ! If you can not see that is a fact you are under strong delusions.

Perhaps it is you who is influenced by the world that satan has created...I am coming from the Bible alone as I have no political alliances......true Christians are not meddlers in the corrupt politics of this world, but they obey Christ and are “no part” of it. (John 18:36)

If God was fighting for the Jews....who could defeat them? In ancient times, he was all they needed against the strongest army. How quickly people forget how powerful God is.
One single angel took out the entire Assyrian army of 185,000 men, in just one night. (2 Kings 19:35)
What army on earth is more powerful than one angel....?

 

[Brakelite]

OP... should we as Christians support the state of Israel?

In what capacity? And from what motive? And from what sector of the community? And for what purpose?

 

[TazzJazz]

I know. I know. They aren't "genuine" [Christians] meaning think like you.

Maybe they aren't 'thinking like Christ.'
(Does this include you?)

At John 18:36, Jesus said, "My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But as it is my kingdom is not from this source."

The Apostle Paul told the Philippians [3:20], "For the state we are citizens of is in the heavens." (Byington)

And to the Corinthian Christians at 2 Corinthians 5:20, he stated, 'We are ambassadors substituting for Christ."
(The allegiance of ambassadors is only to the state they represent, not the countries to whom they are sent.)

 

[TazzJazz]

This, I believe, is at the heart of the issue....

God kept them in existence until his purpose in connection with them was fulfilled...that of producing his promised Messiah, and out of deference to his “friend” Abraham, he gave natural Israel first option to become the “kingdom of priests and a holy nation” that he promised.....but as prophesied, only a small “remnant” would be saved. That small remnant formed the foundations of God’s heavenly Kingdom. They would be promised the “kings and priests” who would be part of the “first resurrection” (Rev 20:5)

After Israel rejected their Messiah, God cast them off and they became part of the world alienated from the true God...the world ruled by Satan, whom Jesus said was their “father the devil”.

Maybe some will get the point,

Thanks!

 

[TazzJazz]

I say this because the Lord Jesus is the Almighty Jehovah God.....

So, In John 17, Jesus was praying to Himself? When he was dying and he said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me", he had forsaken Himself?

Just a brief perusal through the gospels will reveal that such a statement borders on the ridiculous

 

[Christian Soldier]

Fascism is and has always been a leftist ideology.

That's the first time I've ever heard anyone claim that Fascism is a left wing ideology. So what is Communism in your estimation?, these two are supposed to be opposite's.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Do you believe that Satan is doing what God created him to do?

I believe that God is absolutely sovereign over every little aspect of His creation, including what "Satan is doing". You either believe He is sovereign over all or you don't. Now do you believe He is or not???

 

[Christian Soldier]

Some things you say I agree with, others are extremist views.

This present world we are in does involve a battle with forces beyond mankind's sin nature inherited from Adam. I get tired of hearing brethren speak in the sense that at the time of Adam in God's Garden is when the worlds first began. No, there was a previous world time prior to Adam when Lucifer first rebelled against God in coveting God's Throne, and thus fell from Heaven, even drawing one third of the angels ("stars") with him. That did not happen in Adam's day, nor at any time after Adam's days. It happen in the previous world that then was which perished by waters of a flood; not Noah's flood either, but a flood that God caused long before Adam.

And it is that rebellion by Lucifer in that previous world that then was, which is the cause for this present world we are in today. In God's parable of Ezekiel 28 about Lucifer and that rebellion of old, God said He originally created Lucifer perfect in his ways. Thus Lucifer rebelled using his own free will. God did not create him evil. This also means that even though God uses... the devil during this present world, He still allows the devil to work using his free will. The difference with us in Christ is that He gave us power over all the enemy per Luke 10, and we are able to cast demons away to the pit in the Name of Jesus Christ. And that means away from our person, away from our family, our home, etc. That further proves that our battle is NOT simply with man, but literally with the devil and his host.

And the globalists do... have a plan to reduce the world's population. Environmentalists want to bring back a condition on the earth like primitive man. The monument Georgia Gudiestones even proposed the world population will be down to 500,000,000. Some good ol' boys in Georgia blew half of that Georgia Guidestone monument down.

The Guidestones contain a ten-part message from globalist-secret fraternity initiates...

The inscription read:

• Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
• Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
• Unite humanity with a living new language.
• Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
• Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
• Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
• Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
• Balance personal rights with social duties.
• Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
• Be not a cancer on the Earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

What do the Georgia Guidestones say?

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I have no idea where you got that ridiculous idea about a pre Adamic world. But I can assure you that it is absurd rubbish, and it sounds like it came from the Satanic Bible.
There was nothing before God created the earth, there were no Angels and no Aliens or creatures of any kind. When you spout this demonic doctrine, make sure you reveal your source for these lies.

The state of this world has nothing to do with Lucifers rebellion, but it has everything to do with Adams rebellion against God. You guys want to blame everything on the Devil, while you are no better then He is. You should own your own evil and deal with it and stop blaming others for it.

The Devil has no free will, just as you and I have no free will, so you're dead wrong in that as well. The Lord Jesus, bound the Devil and His Demons in great chains 2000 years ago. So they have been absolutely harmless to Gods people for the past 2000 years.
God does allow the Devil and his Demons to torment and possess certain sinners, but they can't touch any of Gods elect.

Christ never gave anyone apart from (His Disciples), the power to cast out Demons. That's another one of your hogwash theories. You won't find a single example of anyone having that power to cast out Demons in the past 2000 years. It simply doesn't exist, because it's not necessary, since Gods elect are untouchable.

You need to go back and read Luke 10 and then come back and tell me where Christ said He gave this power to cast out Demons to all future generations???????????????????? answer He never did. That's just you twisting Gods Word to create your own false narrative.

Never mind the globalists, they're nothing more than deaf dumb and blind puppets, they are utterly powerless. They depend on God's mercy for their next breath.

 

[Christian Soldier]

This conflicts with the faith.
"Every single person, since Adam has been born with a sin nature. We all take to evil like duck to water, every thought and every deed, and every intention is evil continuously. I don't know you but I'm including you on this mix as well because you are a human."

What you ignore is that the one to whom you address is a born again Christian.
So,no,you cannot include them in those remarks.

According to your pov, God is no better than the Devil.The Devil being his dog on a chain? His attack dog.

Your ideology makes my skin crawl.

I'm sorry you believe that God is a liar, I don't. I believe every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God. I'm not sure why you reject what God says as lies, but I can only imagine that it's because you love your sin and hate God.
Why else would you claim that God is a liar.

Yes I can include whoever it was I made those remarks to, because everyone is a sinner. You really need to go to your pastor or teacher and ask for your money back. Your theology is backward, it's based on the doctrine of demons.

I don't have an ideology, I just proclaim Gods Word as He spoke it through His prophets. I'm sorry Gods Word makes your skin crawl, I know it made the Serpent's skin crawl so it sounds like you have a lot in common with Him.

 

[n2thelight]

Should we support the state of Israel or not as Christians? Thank you

Nope, as they are of their father the devil

 

[Christian Soldier]

So, In John 17, Jesus was praying to Himself? When he was dying and he said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me", he had forsaken Himself?

Just a brief perusal through the gospels will reveal that such a statement borders on the ridiculous

Your ignorance of the truth of the gospel, is astounding. Gods Word describes your kind in the following,

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

So there you have it, the Lord Jesus revealed that you have the spirit of antichrist. I will pray for you, if you'd like to give me your name.

Whoever denies that the Lord Jesus is the Almighty Creator God, who created everything that exists for Himself and His glory, is of the antichrist.

I'd suggest you find a faithful teacher who can teach you the basics, before you go and make blasphemous statements. I don't have the time to teach you, but just a quick point in closing for your edification. The Lord Jesus is fully God and fully man. He has two natures, He has His divine nature and His human nature. That should be a starting ponit for you to study.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Nope, as they are of their father the devil

You sound like a proud racist, and that's a disgusting way to be

 

[n2thelight]

God supports Israel long before Jesus was a Jewish Man hanging on The Cross for the sin of the world.

Currently God is supporting Israel, most of all, with the USA.

God as Jesus is coming back to Israel, Himself, to reign with the body of Christ.

So, just connect the dots.........its not that hard unless some crazy "replacement" theology created by the Mary-Cult has "taken hold" of your thinking.

Those people who don't believe in Christ?

 

[Wrangler]

Maybe they aren't 'thinking like Christ.'
(Does this include you?)

Christ thought to turn over tables, whip at people and tell others to arm themselves.

 

[Davy]

So Israel is going to be destroyed and "uprooted" in the future and then recreated?

If you read what Lord Jesus said to the unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem, you should discover that back then He showed the unbelieving Jew's house is now left desolate, spiritually that is.

Luke 13:34-35
34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see Me, until the time come when ye shall say, 'Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.'
KJV

Luke 21:24
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
KJV

Because of many of the Jews returning starting in 1948, which are mostly Jews that still reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ, that still does not mean God's restoration of the Israel Kingdom like of old is happening today. This is why it is important for us Christians to also study The Old Testament Books, because they reveal how the original kingdom of Israel was manifest with God's Promises, and today's nation of Israel isn't anything like that one of old under the kings of the house of David. There has not even been a king of the house of David in Jerusalem since Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, ended king Zedekiah's reign, king of Judah of the house of David. Thus the Jew's house today, in the nation of Israel, is still... spiritually desolate, and without Christ.

Rev 11:1-2
11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, 'Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.'
KJV

Rev.11 is referring to a future new 3rd temple in Jerusalem built by the unbelieving Jews. The Old Testament prophecy about Messiah's coming is that he will build the temple (Zech.6). The unbelieving Jews are thus waiting for Messiah to still come. Thing is, the first supernatural Messiah showing up in Jerusalem will be a fake with powers of miracles like Lord Jesus would do. Many will be deceived. Lord Jesus comes later, after that fake comes first and causes the great falling away. That "forty and two months" is the given reign time of the "dragon" (Satan) per Revelation 13:4-8.

 

[Davy]

The State of Israel has hope in such people who are true to the OT ! who could say it's not so !

Ok sure not all of the State are worthy of the OT ! But look who undermine the OT Jews with in the State ? It's Socialist in fact !

Socialism is just another creation of the Talmud.
The Talmud is not Jewish not of the OT.

I support all Jews who abide with the OT ! for they can become great Christians !

I do not support Socialist Jews nor any who serves the Talmud whore. for they are just as Islam an abomination of man made idoles !

I definitely agree with their faith in The Father. Those are truly God's people, even though they are spiritually blinded still away from The Gospel. They will remain in that blindness though, until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in like Apostle Paul said in Romans 11, which means when Jesus returns. And we've still got a ways to go before Lord Jesus returns in our near future.

 

[stevesonthebay]

Should we support the state of Israel or not as Christians? Thank you

Calling Isreal a State is loaded with political ideology. It implies Statehood and this comes from political ideology. The same ideology that demands other States as a matter of simply declaring so. A rights based political ideology. Similar to individual and group rights.

Which is based in identity politics and will inevitably cause division and conflict. Exactly whats happening now.

Asking if Isreal should be a recognised people is like asking if Japan or Italy should be recognised.

To deny this would be like denying Japan or Italy do not exist.

That it has to be asked of one nation speaks more or divisive politics than a genuine question that needs to be asked. One that opens the door to denying Isreal the right to exist.

 

[RepentingChristian]

Because of many of the Jews returning starting in 1948, which are mostly Jews that still reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ, that still does not mean God's restoration of the Israel Kingdom like of old is happening today.

I disagree. The current plot of land known as Israel was once a barren wasteland. Now its land is an agricultural success.

Israel is widely recognized as a global leader in agricultural innovation and efficiency, turning significant environmental challenges into a, particularly in arid regions. Despite having limited water resources and over 60% of its land as desert, the country has achieved high levels of food security and agricultural export.

Key components of Israel's agricultural success include:

Water Management & Innovation: Israel is a pioneer in drip irrigation, treating and reusing up to 90% of its wastewater for agricultural purposes. It also relies on large-scale desalination to bolster its water supply.

Desert Farming (Negev): Innovative techniques have allowed for productive farming in the Negev Desert, which covers over 60% of the country.
High Yields and Technology: Israel achieves some of the highest agricultural yields in the world, including, for example, 300 tons of tomatoes per hectare compared to a 50-ton global average.
Advanced AgTech: The country integrates artificial intelligence, robots for harvesting, and, specifically in the Jordan Valley, advanced, high-tech methods for cultivating crops like Medjool dates.
Key Crops and Exports: While citrus (like Jaffa oranges) was historically significant, avocado has become a major export, with 127,000 tons exported in 2024, making it a leading agricultural product alongside other fruits, vegetables, and dairy.