The Current War against Iran and Support for Israel is based on Catholic Counter Reformation Theology.

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dad

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And yet the old covenant was broken.
And yet promises are not the old covenant. They were promises made by God that take nothing away from salvation or the New Testament. On the contrary
The new covenant was given based on better promises.
You are conflating promises of God with the old law and sacrifices etc
 

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the new covenant the new testament . ITS THE SAME thing . this other fellow is messing things up my friend .
just like many do with the idea there are two gospels , one for the jew and one for the gentile. NOPE its the same GOSPEL
and every single apostel preached it . Just like they preach two kingdoms , kingdom of GOD , Kingdom of heaven .
BUT NOPE ITS THE SAME ONE .
People listen to men way too much that twist things .
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Ibelieve the US is focused on defending Israel because of eschatology. The cry coming the evangelical and charismatic/pentecostal majority in America is fairly strident.

I see support of Israel by not just the U.S. but also by the western Christian nations because of God's promises, even though the majority of Judah is still blinded today away from The Gospel according to Apostle Paul. There's more involved than mere human politics. Jerusalem is where God said He has put His Name there and will dwell there forever. Does He not have the right to protect it then? I mean, His enemies ought to be smart enough to realize they cannot defeat Him and make Jerusalem their own. There has been something like 27 sieges of Jerusalem in its history, and Bible prophecy shows there will be one more at the end of this world. But that's it, no more after God ends that one too.

People are being called racist and homophobic if they are calling for tougher immigration policies and are anti-alphabet and woke liberalism.

That statement is confusion, putting the words racist, homophobic in the same category as woke liberalism. It's actually the woke liberals who call conservatives homophobic and racist for wanting stronger immigration laws.

But what's the difference when others are accused of being racist because they don't support Zionism. Or accused of being anti-semetic. Same old accusations that were thrown about at "vaccine" rejecters.

Martin Luther was anti-Semtic. He riled against the Jews. Many in the early Church did, simply because of hatred of those who had Lord Jesus crucified and were persecuting the Church in Judea. A deeper Bible understanding eliminates all those kind of arguments.

Yeah well. It's happening, whether you like it or not.

Well no, it is not happening, except in your own mind, and in the minds of those pushing the doctrines of men you listen to instead of God in His Word.

God's Word gives us plenty of evidence that the coming Antichrist will originate from among the Jews, and will establish himself as God and as king in a rebuilt stone temple in JERUSALEM for the END, and not Rome. Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem are not... going to receive a Catholic Christian pope as their MESSIAH.

So it is stupid to even compare a pope with the Messiah of The Bible. And the meaning in the Greek of the word for "antichrist" is simply two Greek words, anti which in Greek can mean 'instead of, or in place of', and christos which means Christ. That means the coming Antichrist MUST align with the requirements of a JEWISH MESSIAH. And Biblically, that means coming from the house of David of the tribe of Judah.

Furthermore, when Lord Jesus quoted from the Book of Daniel about that coming Antichrist placing the "abomination of desolation" IDOL at the temple in Jerusalem, that also points directly to JERUSALEM, and not Rome, nor a pope.

An image of the papal beast being erected in the US under your nose and you can't see it. When they start legislating worship and persecuting those who refuse to honor Sunday, will you understand then or join in the fun?

You are imagining things. Under the old Sunday Blue laws in the U.S., Protestant Churches in the U.S. back in the 1900's and before required Sunday Church attendance in some states by law. That had nothing to do with the Catholic Church or a pope.

Personally, I believe today's usage of the 'old' doctrines of the 16th century Reformers about a pope being the Antichrist per some Church denominations today is a political movement ran by the false Jews of the "synagogue of Satan." And I am just as aware as any Protestant of false traditions that go on in the Catholic Church system, probably more so since my ancestors were among the first French Protestants in 16th century France that fled Catholic persecution.

The Antichrist that Lord Jesus and Apostle Paul and Apostle John pointed to is specifically for the END of this world, for the time of "great tribulation."
 

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Better refers to Jesus dying for our salvation, which is better than the old law and sacrifices etc. Zero to do with cancelling wonderful promises.
That's your limitation.

Your limitation is not in Scripture.


How's that silver? :laughing:
 

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Was the old covenant Jesus' words?
verily verily i say unto thee before abraham was I AM .
The Spirit of Christ that was in them DID TESTIFY of ...........
and that spiritual rock was CHRIST .
Just a friendly reminder to us all . The words of the prophets
the very spirit that gave them such words
WAS AND IS and always was . that Spirit of Christ that was in them that did TESTIFY of ...........
JESUS DONT HOLD dark rainbows nor honor any sin , NOR Ever would h onor UNBELEIF in GOD
And thus IF ONE even claims to BELIEVE ON GOD
but did as did rebellious israel and not BELIEVE HIM
OH they do not BELEIVE HIM .
You see abraham , I KNOW HE BELEIVED GOD .
yet many seem not to beleive ON JESUS or on HIS words if they even claim to beleive on HIM .
WHICH IS T OTAL DEAD FAITH .
verily verily i say unto this love of the world generation T HAT BLEIEVES their love is of GOD
YA BEEN DUPED . they have loved the world and have the love of the world
and do nothing but teach and lead this people and all false religions INTO THE UPMOST HOUR of all out rebellion
against GOD , HIS CHRIST .
THERE IS THE PEACE OF GOD that reconciles man to GOD
and then there is the peace of anti christ that omits the dire need to BLEIEVE ON CHRIST ,
and r ather focuses on reconcililng man to man , tribe to trib e , denomination to denomination
and all hold hands under a unity of satan , under a l ove of satan , under a peace of satan and that which is of anti christ .
And they call it THE LOVE OF GOD and HIS PLAN FOR WORLD PEACE
or ecumeincalism . i SURE HOPE None are seated UNDER THAT MESS . if so they LOVE A LIE
and are in danger of hells most fersioucious flames , LEST Of course they repent .
Do you know anyone that agrees with this ecumenical flow
this int erfaith flow
IF SO , GET THEM OUT . and if you are in unison with it , GET OUT yourself .
 

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No. The promises of God are yea and amen and without fail. Eternal. None of all His good promises vanished or became lies when he died for us also.
You missed all and him.

2 Corinthians 1
20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Present tense.
In him are yea and Amen.
He is now the fulfillment of all the promises of God.

No mention of Israel, because he is the fulfillment of all.
 

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You missed all and him.

2 Corinthians 1
20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Present tense.
In him are yea and Amen.
He is now the fulfillment of all the promises of God.

No mention of Israel, because he is the fulfillment of all.
Context. He is alive now and continues to fulfill promises and always will. All promises. When Israel is saved in the end Jesus brings them back to the land. Jesus slays their enemies. Jesus is of course the fulfillment. He is God.
 

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Context. He is alive now and continues to fulfill promises and always will. All promises. When Israel is saved in the end Jesus brings them back to the land. Jesus slays their enemies. Jesus is of course the fulfillment. He is God.
Christ alone is the Heir of all things. Hebrews 1:1,2

Israel is not an heir. She inherits nothing.
 
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Christ alone is the Heir of all things. Hebrews 1:1,2
Yes heir of the world and etc. That does not mean He lied in promising things. It means He has the power to fulfill His promises.
Israel is not an heir. She inherits nothing.
Believers are heirs.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;

Saved Israel will inherit the land promised by God.
 

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Yes heir of the world and etc. That does not mean He lied in promising things. It means He has the power to fulfill His promises.

Believers are heirs.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ;

Saved Israel will inherit the land promised by God.
To believers, God offers not land, but the immeasurably better promise of an immeasurably better country, namely heaven (Hebrews 11:16; 1 Peter 1:4).
 
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To believers, God offers not land, but the immeasurably better promise of an immeasurably better country, namely heaven (Hebrews 11:6; 1 Peter 1:4).
To Israel believers He promised lands and restoration. Salvation too! It is not one or the other. His promises are like icing on the cake of salvation.
 

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No. The promises of God are yea and amen and without fail. Eternal. None of all His good promises vanished or became lies when he died for us also.

But for Israel of the flesh, you only want to claim that part of God's promise for life, while ignoring the rest of His promise is death for Israel in unbelief!
 
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Context. He is alive now and continues to fulfill promises and always will. All promises. When Israel is saved in the end Jesus brings them back to the land. Jesus slays their enemies. Jesus is of course the fulfillment. He is God.

Israel of the flesh lost the land of promise, not because God reneged on His promise, but because Israel reneged, turning against God, serving other gods. Now in your confusion you argue God will give Israel another chance, while the rest of the nations of the world who remain in unbelief, as Israel does, are condemned? When did God become a respecter of persons?