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Yes. Regarding that promise of the new heavens and earth. That must come true as well. That is slated for the end of the 1000 yrs (after he returns to earth)
What you think they look forward to doesn't really matter. The new earth is coming like it or not. Sorry if you are shocked that many Jews who believe will be thrilled to actually finally get restored to the land by God for real.
Yes. He talked of the new earth at the end of the 1000 yrs...so?
Fulfilling promises is not being a respecter of persons it is being a respecter of His word!
Not true, all who believe in Jesus are assured salvation. Just because saved Jews will also be restored to the promised land does not take away from our salvation.
Just keeping ignoring passages like Hebrews 11:8-16 if you insist. You are obviously unteachable just like most people on this forum. Sad to witness.
We all believe they must come true and all believe that His promises always come true, but don't all have the same understanding of how they come true.
LOL. You are a comedian. Peter specifically indicated that believers look for the new heavens and new earth in direct fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming. We who understand what Peter taught don't look for an imaginary earthly millennial kingdom in fulfillment of the promise of His second coming as Premils like you do. We instead look for new heavens and a new earth where righteousness will dwell for eternity in fulfillment of the promise of Christ's second coming. That places His second coming after the non-literal thousand years.
Nonsense! You are not being honest here. Why are you not willing to honestly address anyone's arguments? Scripture teaches that God is not a respecter of persons. For Him to purposely save all the people of one nation but not any other nation would make Him out to be a respecter of persons. You can't just ignore that!
Read my question again and try to answer it again. What you said here comes nowhere near actually answering the question I asked, which was "Why would God ensure the salvation of everyone in one nation (Israel) and not any other nation?".
Nothing to ignore. Abraham left his country and was sent to the promised land. Some scholars feel that the mountain he almost sacrificed Isaac on was Calvary! So he desired a heavenly country. That was what God was leading him to. But His plan was for Abraham to live in the land of promise first! His plan for saved Israel in the end is also to give them that land. When Jesus is on earth and protecting them, and crops grow faster than men can reap them, and people live a thousand years etc I would say that is pretty heavenly! When they also probably can visit New Jerusalem, I would say that is heavenly!
Promising to restore a believing Israel from all over the world in ships and camels and etc etc is not interpretation. Believe it. Or not
They better be patient then. That is stated to only come after the thousand years! However our home with Jesus is there right now waiting. It will not be coming down from heaven to earth though when Jesus returns until after the millennium
We look forward to our eternal new home. New Jerusalem. We also look forward to a beautiful earth in the 1000 years on earth! He is going to rule the earth. We will also be reigning with Him here. That will be our 'day job' in the 1000 years!
Yes. He honestly will fulfill all His promises. I kid you not. Why would you call Him not keeping His word 'honest'?
Read again for comprehension
He does not save any nation unless they believe in Jesus. When that remnant see Jesus returning, they will finally realize and believe and weep as for an only son. That is why they are saved. That is why you or I are saved, belief in Jesus. Did you think that God waves a wand and picks out some nationn of unbelievers and forces them to convert while tossing the others to hell in a handbasket?
See above. He is no respecter of persons and whosoever comes to Him He will in no wise cast out. The remnant comes to Him in the end. It will be come to Jesus time.
No. There's far more going on in America with regards to Israel than a shared political view. If it were only political, people like Tucker Carson wouldn't be reacting the way he is. And neither would the military commanders be instructing their troops that they were in a holy war.
Ok, let’s substitute the word Israel for sun and moon in Isaiah 60:20, keeping in mind that it’s direct intended audience is Israel.
I agree we shouldn’t be looking for mistakes in the Bible, it’s inerrant. When we come to what seems to be conflicting passages then we need to modify our views to conform to the inerrancy of the Bible.
Tucker Carlson can be a bit of a nut, IMO. Besides, I don't think it's valid to point to the behavior of one non-government man and characterize the behavior of a government based on that one man's behavior.
Hi Ronald, how can the A.C. possibly come from Islam, or Catholicism for that matter? Can you see Israel accepting a Catholic or a Muslim as their long awaited Messiah? I believe the A.C. will come out of Israel.
Me, too, actually. You know, this is just me saying this, and I'm a conservative Christian, but just in the way the concept is... bandied about... I would actually say there is no such thing as a "holy war" in the way most people think or talk about that kind of thing.
No. Here are a few bible commentaries to try and help you get the gist.
The passage about their sun and moon staying light has to do with them, rather than the planetary bodies. Trying to use this to say God breaks His word and ordinances is pathetic
No. With God nothing is impossible. Having saved Jewish brethren returned to the promised land a great
This looks like an unverified report that you wrote. Am I misunderstanding something?
No, they wouldn't receive an Islamic leader or a Pope - that is absurd. I do not adhere to this scenario that the Jews will receive the Antichrist as there Messiah - even though because if their blindness, they are against Christ. However we see them deny Christ, they do not nor have not persecuted Christians in the way Islam has or the world has. The Antichrist gathers 10 nations to attack the Jews - as we see Islamic nations are now attacking Israel. Who is the little horn that suffers an apparent deadly blow but comes back to life possessed by Satan? A leader of Iran or Iran itself?
I agree somewhat with the commentaries but there are some glaring issues that stick out like a sore thumb.
Since nothing is impossible for God, then do you agree that it’s currently possible that Jeremiah 31:35-36 was fulfilled and Israel is no longer a nation before God, forevermore?
That is meaningless, as Abraham discovered when he realized he was living in "a strange country". God's plan for all of His people in the end is to give them the eternal new heavens and new earth.
No, heavenly describes eternal things, not temporal. Your carnal perspective keeps you from understanding things like this.
Visit New Jerusalem? What in the world does that mean? The New Jerusalem is not a literal city. It is "the bride, the Lamb's wife" (Revelation 21:9). Christ's bride/wife is not a literal city, it is the church.
I believe that you have no idea of what you're talking about.
