The Current War against Iran and Support for Israel is based on Catholic Counter Reformation Theology.

[dad]

Your news is fake news.

There is no such thing. Every will is a net new document which nullifies any previous will. That is reinforced in the leading clause of every will, the example of which I included. You should read it.

Jesus made it clear that He came to fulfill not destroy the law. All promises will be fulfilled. What did you think He promised to return saved Israel to the land for, a false joke??

All bequests and promises must be explicitly specified. There is no "already written rather than excludes". That is a recipe for intestacy.

He specifically promises to gather Israel after they believe to a certain land. You waste words doubting God

You also mentioned the Ten Commandments. They are eclipsed and transcended in and by the New Testament here:

Matthew 22
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Yes There are no ten commandments given in the New Testament. No parting of the Red Sea. No Eve eating forbidden fruit etc. But that does not mean they never happened. In no way does paying for our salvation with His Own blood mean that He then lied about what was promised to a remnant of Israel in the end. That should be obvious

 

[Button]

Your news is fake news.

There is no such thing. Every will is a net new document which nullifies any previous will. That is reinforced in the leading clause of every will, the example of which I included. You should read it.

All bequests and promises must be explicitly specified. There is no "already written rather than excludes". That is a recipe for intestacy.

You also mentioned the Ten Commandments. They are eclipsed and transcended in and by the New Testament here:

Matthew 22
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Those two commands encapsulate the ten.


What eclipses the law against murder?

 

[covenantee]

Jesus made it clear that He came to fulfill not destroy the law. All promises will be fulfilled. What did you think He promised to return saved Israel to the land for, a false joke??

Those two commands encapsulate the ten.


What eclipses the law against murder?

The law of love.

 

[Button]

The law of love.

Love eclipses the law of God that forbids murder?

Perhaps you used the wrong word.
Would you like to reconsider?

 

[covenantee]

Love eclipses the law of God that forbids murder?

Perhaps you used the wrong word.
Would you like to reconsider?

Does love go beyond not murdering?

 

[Brakelite]

So you failed to name a single verse then. OK The promises of God restoring believing Israel to the land of promise in no way takes away from the New Testament! Part of the New testament says that God is not a liar and fulfills His promises.

Part of His will is fulfilling promises. IN no way does doing what He promises 'take away' from anything Jesus said or the apostles.

The promises were not made in the era of the New testament. That is news? But God is true and will do what He said. Did you imagine that gathering Jews from all over and bringing them to the promised land was fiction? Or that is would somehow negate salvation or anything in the bible, old or new??

God's promises were conditional. Israel never met those conditions.

 

[dad]

God's promises were conditional. Israel never met those conditions.

OK so the unbelievers in that land today are not eligible to be there?

 

[Button]

Does love go beyond not murdering?

Does it?

God murdered the first born in Egypt so to persuade Pharaoh to let God's people go.
God hardened Pharaohs heart before Moses arrived. And so that for the duration of 10 plagues, Pharaoh could not let the people go.


Does love go beyond not murdering?

eclipse: losing or having lost significance, power, or prominence.

 

[Brakelite]

I think I made that point. It is apostate American Protestantism that has embraced Catholic counter Reformation theology and using eschatological delusions (3rd temple, an individual antichrist sitting in that temple etc etc all seen as necessary prerequisites to the second coming) that is greatly motivating the defense of Israel, the money being poured into that work, and the inevitable loss of lives on both sides. The cries of "bless Israel and be blessed, curse and be cursed", etc. By all means, if the US government wants to be an ally to Israel, fine. But what has the church got to do with it? If not for dispensational teaching being so prevalent throughout American culture, and having the ear of the president and advising on foreign policy, would this war be taking shape the way it is?

I want to add to the above in light of recent revelations. Some of you may be aware of this and quietly going about your business not wanting to make waves. What I'm going to say is going to ruffle many feathers.
Your military (in the US) is being told by their commanders that they are fighting Armageddon. That Donald Trump has been anointed by God to establish the millennium of peace and safety in the world. To usher in the second coming, I assume like an end time John the Baptist preparing the world for the Messiah. That Christian nationalism and Zionism had gone so far is astonishing to me. Couple that with the calls from various quarters for a national Sunday law, and the establishment of an ecclesiocracy (as opposed to theocracy) in America, harking back to the days of the Puritans when there were state churches and enforced worship, with harsh penalties for non conformists, is a repudiation of your own constitution and a rewrite of history. Your own founding fathers such as James Madison who penned the first amendment, and Thomas Jefferson who wrote the declaration of independence, will be tearng their hair out if they could hear or see what is taking place in their so called country of freedom.
Some of your congressmen and senators for some time now have called for the abolition of the separation of church and state, claiming your founding fathers never intended for such a separation when forming your great nation. That is history revisionism. They haven't read Madison. And they denigrate Jefferson. And treat great American heroes such as Roger Williams relegated to the dust bin of history. The Protestant church in America has fallen. It is in league with the state forming a union of church and state, carrying of the Catholic principles of the old world from which they never fully came out. America is now in the throws of forming the image to the papal beast with the inevitable religious laws and persecutions that follow.

 

[Brakelite]

OK so the unbelievers in that land today are not eligible to be there?

Not for the church to decide and influence the state to intervene.

 

[Brakelite]

OK so the unbelievers in that land today are not eligible to be there?

All of God's promises are conditional on repentance. That applied to the Jews of the first century who joined the church began by Christ, and it applies to the Jews of today who still reject Christ, deny the Son, and therefore deny the Father, becoming an antichrist.

“22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. ”
1 John 2:22-23 KJV

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These are the people you are joining church and state in order to support. It is unchristian, unbiblical, and antichrist.

“7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God-speed: 11 for he that biddeth him God-speed is partaker of his evil deeds. ”
2 John 1:7, 10-11 KJV

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As for unbelievers in Israel today, preach to them the gospel. That's your work. Nothing more.

 

[Button]

I want to add to the above in light of recent revelations. Some of you may be aware of this and quietly going about your business not wanting to make waves. What I'm going to say is going to ruffle many feathers.
Your military (in the US) is being told by their commanders that they are fighting Armageddon. That Donald Trump has been anointed by God to establish the millennium of peace and safety in the world. To usher in the second coming, I assume like an end time John the Baptist preparing the world for the Messiah.

Evidence?

That Christian nationalism and Zionism had gone so far is astonishing to me. Couple that with the calls from various quarters for a national Sunday law,

and the establishment of an ecclesiocracy (as opposed to theocracy) in America,

Please post evidence that proves the alleged establishment of an ecclesiocracy in America.

harking back to the days of the Puritans when there were state churches and enforced worship, with harsh penalties for non conformists, is a repudiation of your own constitution and a rewrite of history.

Please post proof of enforced Christian worship and the penalties for non-compliance in America.

Your poem founding fathers such as James Madison who penned the first amendment,

Madison wasn't a known poet. He wrote,"A Poem against the Tories" . While in college.

and Thomas Jefferson who wrote the declaration of independence, will be tearng their hair out of they could hear or see what is taking place in their so called country of freedom.

Good thing you live in disarmed Australia.

Some of your congressmen and senators for some time now have called for the abolition of the separation of church and state, claiming your founding fathers never intended for such a separation when forming your great nation. That is history revisionism. They haven't read Madison. And they denigrate Jefferson. And treat great American heroes such as Roger Williams relegated to the dust bin of history. The Protestant church in America has fallen. It is in league with the state forming a union of church and state, carrying of the Catholic principles of the old world from which they never fully came out. America is now in the throws of forming the image to the papal beast with the inevitable religious laws and persecutions that follow.

Prove everything you just said. Thanks.

 

[dad]

Not for the church to decide and influence the state to intervene.

No one talked about intervening.

 

[dad]

All of God's promises are conditional on repentance. That applied to the Jews of the first century who joined the church began by Christ, and it applies to the Jews of today who still reject Christ, deny the Son, and therefore deny the Father, becoming an antichrist.

“22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. ”
1 John 2:22-23 KJV

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These are the people you are joining church and state in order to support. It is unchristian, unbiblical, and antichrist.

Regardless of what man does the people who claim God already gave unbelieving Israel the land are wrong. All the refugees evicted or chased away or whatever were refugees for no good reason. God is not on Israel's side in all this.

“7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God-speed: 11 for he that biddeth him God-speed is partaker of his evil deeds. ”
2 John 1:7, 10-11 KJV

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As for unbelievers in Israel today, preach to them the gospel. That's your work. Nothing more.

There are preachers in Canada and the US and all over that claim God gave that land to unbelieving Israel. Our job is also to tell the truth. God is not the one terrorizing Gaza or Iran

 

[Brakelite]

Evidence?

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/stories-that-military-commande-gqD7qCT7SNqtOw7I73YgLw#0

 

[Brakelite]

Madison wasn't a known poet. He wrote,"A Poem against the Tories" . While in college

Allow me to quell the confusion. Big thumbs and too many bent fingers. The word intended was not poem, as you likely realized, but own.

 

[Brakelite]

Good thing you live in disarmed Australia.

Yes. Hopefully a long way from 'friendly' fire or otherwise.

 

[ProDeo]

Regardless of what man does the people who claim God already gave unbelieving Israel the land are wrong. All the refugees evicted or chased away or whatever were refugees for no good reason. God is not on Israel's side in all this.

There are preachers in Canada and the US and all over that claim God gave that land to unbelieving Israel. Our job is also to tell the truth. God is not the one terrorizing Gaza or Iran

Why is Israel on the map again since ~1900 years of absence ?

Because Jesus is going to return exactly where ?

I am not going to interfere in God's business, I watch and don't judge.

 

[ProDeo]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/stories-that-military-commande-gqD7qCT7SNqtOw7I73YgLw#0

"When one proudly dons a U.S. Military uniform, there is only one religious symbol: the American flag. There is only one religious scripture: the American Constitution. Finally, there is only one religious faith: American patriotism."
MRFF Founder and President, Michael L. "Mikey" Weinstein

Military Religious Freedom Foundation – Protecting the Constitutional Guarantee of Separation of Church and State in the United States Military

www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Madness.

 

[Brakelite]

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/stories-that-military-commande-gqD7qCT7SNqtOw7I73YgLw#0

Those military commanders aren't coming up with that idea in a vacuum. Hegseth. As radical a Catholic militant as you would ever find. Seen his tattoos? He's a believer. But not in anything I've read in scripture. If the above link isn't all the evidence you need of a burgeoning ecclesiocracy...a union of church and state ala puritan level copy of middle ages old world tyranny, you are running on empty.
As I said perhaps on another thread, we are witnessing the establishment of the prophetic image to the papal beast, being lovingly erected by an apostate protestant America caught in Jesuit deception.