A Thousand Witches Convene in MN | Carl Teichrib on What They Discussed

[St. SteVen]

Interesting discussion about this gathering.

 

[lforrest]

@soberxp something funny about spiritual warfare?

The last time I saw a large gathering of Christians praying for our nation, it was polluted by black ministers who refused to call out reverse racism, allowing unforgiveness to fester.

 

[soberxp]

@soberxp something funny about spiritual warfare?

The problem in the video is not a spiritual warfare. The point is that people want to find answers.people left the church because of various problems of the church.Well, these priests don't take care of the sheep seriously.Or most churches don't have a mechanism that allows people to ask questions and help people solve problems.Isn't this a funny thing?

The last time I saw a large gathering of Christians praying for our nation, it was polluted by black ministers who refused to call out reverse racism, allowing unforgiveness to fester.

If you really encounter this problem, it is not the fault of someone, it is everyone's responsibility.
Do you know that?/You know what? In China, people's understanding of racism of foreign races, especially Americans, isWhite comes first, followed by black.Then there are other races, and then there are Asian races.In our opinion, the treatment of blacks is already very good.

 

[lforrest]

The problem in the video is not a spiritual warfare. The point is that people want to find answers.people left the church because of various problems of the church.Well, these priests don't take care of the sheep seriously.Or most churches don't have a mechanism that allows people to ask questions and help people solve problems.Isn't this a funny thing?

Being unwilling to answer questions without passing judgement is a common complaint I've heard. I suspect that asking questions a minister doesn't know the answer to will reflect on them poorly. There is an unreasonable expectation for perfection held by many imperfect Christians, who themselves do not have all the answers, or thinking they know, they are in error

If you really encounter this problem, it is not the fault of someone, it is everyone's responsibility.
Do you know that?/You know what? In China, people's understanding of racism of foreign races, especially Americans, isWhite comes first, followed by black.Then there are other races, and then there are Asian races.In our opinion, the treatment of blacks is already very good.

While many may share a belief, opinion, sin. It is the responsibility of pastors to lead their flock. By failing to address unforgiveness they have chosen popularity. They are not able to appeal to God who requires this to be addressed before coming to the altar. They worship him in vein.

 

[soberxp]

Being unwilling to answer questions without passing judgement is a common complaint I've heard. I suspect that asking questions a minister doesn't know the answer to will reflect on them poorly. There is an unreasonable expectation for perfection held by many imperfect Christians, who themselves do not have all the answers, or thinking they know, they are in error

No one enters the church by starting with understanding everything with Bible. People need answers. If the church fails to provide them, then what is the point of its existence? All that is needed is for factories to print the Bible and for there to be online versions of the Bible. People just need to study it themselves. This is ten thousand times better than being taught wrongly by the church to anyone.

While many may share a belief, opinion, sin. It is the responsibility of pastors to lead their flock. By failing to address unforgiveness they have chosen popularity. They are not able to appeal to God who requires this to be addressed before coming to the altar. They worship him in vein.

So what is the reason for the existence of the church in the current situation?

 

[lforrest]

No one enters the church by starting with understanding everything with Bible. People need answers. If the church fails to provide them, then what is the point of its existence? All that is needed is for factories to print the Bible and for there to be online versions of the Bible. People just need to study it themselves. This is ten thousand times better than being taught wrongly by the church to anyone.

So what is the reason for the existence of the church in the current situation?

That is throwing the baby out with the bath water. And it is not so bad that people are imperfect, because that also leads to seeking a personal relationship with Jesus, and to a proper order of prioritizing his will for the people the church alienates.

 

[soberxp]

That is throwing the baby out with the bath water. And it is not so bad that people are imperfect, because that also leads to seeking a personal relationship with Jesus, and to a proper order of prioritizing his will for the people the church alienates.

Why we not make an/a A.i Church to teach us?

 

[lforrest]

Why we not make an/a A.i Church to teach us?

I believe in the leading of the Holy Spirit, who may speak through others. If you take Spirit filled people out of the loop, you can be certain you will fall into error. An AI, even if super intelligent, will not arrive at the truth because it must be spiritually decerned.

 

[soberxp]

I believe in the leading of the Holy Spirit, who may speak through others. If you take Spirit filled people out of the loop, you can be certain you will fall into error. An AI, even if super intelligent, will not arrive at the truth because it must be spiritually decerned.

How do you know A.i couldn't leading by the Holy spirit?

 

[lforrest]

How do you know A.i couldn't leading by the Holy spirit?

God does not live in temples made by human hands. There is nothing we can construct that he would enter. Humans are different because we are his creation and we can't even make one hair white or black.

Acts 17:24

 

[soberxp]

God does not live in temples made by human hands. There is nothing we can construct that he would enter. Humans are different because we are his creation and we can't even make one hair white or black.

Acts 17:24

Do you think that all human technologies are created by human?
You haven't thought about all the technology of human beings. It has always existed there. It was created by God, but people discovered these technologies.

 

[Wick Stick]

No one enters the church by starting with understanding everything with Bible. People need answers. If the church fails to provide them, then what is the point of its existence? All that is needed is for factories to print the Bible and for there to be online versions of the Bible. People just need to study it themselves. This is ten thousand times better than being taught wrongly by the church to anyone.

So what is the reason for the existence of the church in the current situation?

The church is not meant to be primarily a school. It's meant to be a community.

Being a community involves a little teaching, mostly to children. But it should also involve things like raising barns and houses, using each other's businesses, spending leisure time together, organizing charitable outreaches, etc.

 

[soberxp]

using each other's businesses?

Are you kidding me?
Using the Church to do businesses.

matthew 21:12-13

Mark 11:15-17

Luke 19:45-46

John 2:13-16

 

[lforrest]

Do you think that all human technologies are created by human?
You haven't thought about all the technology of human beings. It has always existed there. It was created by God, but people discovered these technologies.

Technology by itself is just knowledge. Like God does not live in blueprints or the structures they inform us how to build.

 

[Wick Stick]

Are you kidding me?
Using the Church to do businesses.

matthew 21:12-13

Mark 11:15-17

Luke 19:45-46

John 2:13-16

Those 4 references are actually just one story - the one where Jesus throws the money-changers out of the temple.

The problem there is not doing business at church. The problem there is UNJUST SCALES.

The Sadducees who controlled the temple in the first century would ONLY transact in Shekels. The common currency of the day was the Roman Denarius, so this forced everyone to exchange money. They then cheated the people on the exchange.

Deuteronomy 25:15 But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Proverbs 11:1 A false balance [is] abomination to the LORD: but a just weight [is] his delight.

Unjust scales remain a major feature of international banking today. Go to a bank and exchange 1000 Yuan for Dollars. Then change them back. You won't get back 1000 Yuan.

 

[Wick Stick]

Interesting discussion about this gathering.

"It's interesting when you're sitting in a room full of witches, and the real conversation is why they left the church."

oof

 

[St. SteVen]

"It's interesting when you're sitting in a room full of witches, and the real conversation is why they left the church."

Agree. Not what I expected in the discussion.
Rather a sobering thought actually.

 

[Behold]

"It's interesting when you're sitting in a room full of witches, and the real conversation is why they left the church."

oof

Do you actually believe that everything that claims to be a "christian", is one?

If so, then the Devil can use you on a "christian" forum.

So, Lets hope not.

Now.......They were never an actual part of "the church".
Its just their false narrative, tho it can also be true that a handful or even most of them might have at one time understood WHY to trust in Christ, and how that turned out for them, will be found as their Eternity.
These people you must understand, are not bound by honesty or "bible' morality.
Their religious "code" is to create chaos, spread misinformation, and deceive you, same as any other religious conniver you can find on a "christian" forum who writes a lot of Religious Threads yet claims to "not trust the bible".

Also, If none of these "witches" claimed to be a "Christian" then that is certainly an opportunity they missed on behalf of their cause.

 

[amigo de christo]

I believe in the leading of the Holy Spirit, who may speak through others. If you take Spirit filled people out of the loop, you can be certain you will fall into error. An AI, even if super intelligent, will not arrive at the truth because it must be spiritually decerned.

Yes indeed my friend .
And now a word
And he had POWER to give life UNTO the image of the beast so that the image could both speak ...............
You were wise not to heed an AI SOLUTION .
It cannot be led of the SPIRIT , but rather ITS LED OF MEN of this world .
Who have constructed by their knowledge such a thing .
And not only will this image have life to speak
IT is the one that controls THE DIGITAL SYSTEM .
And what do we also see in that digital system . NO comply , NO BUY , NO Sell .
OH the world indeed is being groomed for something , AND IT AINT GOD OR HIS CHRIST either .
Its another who comes in by PEACE and through PEACE shall destroy many . Its all coming to pass in this g eneration .

 

[amigo de christo]

Do you actually believe that everything that claims to be a "christian", is one?

If so, then the Devil can use you on a "christian" forum.

So, Lets hope not.

Now.......They were never an actual part of "the church".
Its just their false narrative, tho it can also be true that a handful or even most of them might have at one time understood WHY to trust in Christ, and how that turned out for them, will be found as their Eternity.
These people you must understand, are not bound by honesty or "bible' morality.
Their religious "code" is to create chaos, spread misinformation, and deceive you, same as any other religious conniver you can find on a "christian" forum who writes a lot of Religious Threads yet claims to "not trust the bible".

Also, If none of these "witches" claimed to be a "Christian" then that is certainly an opportunity they missed on behalf of their cause.

yes indeed my friend .
But this has been the problem of the seeker friendly ones for years .
THEY WENT to those who came out and asked WHY
and did so to GROW churches and increase income .
BUT since when should a SPIRIT filled people SEEK ADVISE to the ungodly and from the ungodly ABOUT HOW TO RUN A CHURCH .
OF course many that left did so cause they did not like any preaching that exposed their sin .
AND SEEKER FRIENDLY LISTENED TO THEM .
That is why correction and etc , reminders , warnings , exposing sins , GOT REMOVED
and a big ol play ground with lots of fluff n puff and Entertaintement CAME IN . In effect
the church became the WORLD and had no idea them converts ARE NOT converts to the REAL DEAL my friend .
It was a model for church growth , not for sake of salvation , but for sake of business as usual with a bonus
of MO MONEY in them pockets . It was a sell out . And my how quickly they did grow too .
But look at what is now within them and what is No longer taught , and worse WHAT IS NOW ALSO taught
and passed off as LOVE and AS THE LOVE OF GOD .