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Armour of God

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matthew 24:44
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Good point.
It's says that Jesus will come when no one is expecting. That's why I'm unsure when it will happen, because so many people now are expecting him along with many in the past including the apostles and it didn't happen.
As for being ready. All we can do to be ready is to live righteously and have faith in God for He will prevail
 

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Good point.
It's says that Jesus will come when no one is expecting. That's why I'm unsure when it will happen, because so many people now are expecting him along with many in the past including the apostles and it didn't happen.
As for being ready. All we can do to be ready is to live righteously and have faith in God for He will prevail
He already come, don't ask me why and when,
Do not ask me what to do,
matthew 24:44
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

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He already come, don't ask me why and when,
Do not ask me what to do,
matthew 24:44
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

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Ok that's your opinion. 10/10/2008.
Others think he came in 1914.
Others think he is yet to come.
I'd like to hear why you think he came on that date.
Like I said already, I don't know for sure but I think Christ is yet to come.
As for being ready. I'm always ready
 

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Ok that's your opinion. 10/10/2008.
Others think he came in 1914.
Others think he is yet to come.
I'd like to hear why you think he came on that date.
Like I said already, I don't know for sure but I think Christ is yet to come.
As for being ready. I'm always ready
Because I saw it.As the Bible says, he came in a cloud.And it was Friday.
1010 Does it look like binary code?
十十 it is the word ten in Chinese.
2+0+0+8=10
10/10/2008
十十十
matthew 24:27
For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
 

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Are we living in the end times?

For as long as I can remember there have been people saying that we are living in the end times, that the Armageddon is near, that Christ is returning, that the end of the world is upon us.

It seems like there have been people saying this in every generation since Christ. Even the apostles thought that they were living in the end times. Yet it never happened, the world kept on going.

People say that we live in dark times but we actually live in a peaceful world if you look at history and compare it to the world before WW2. Before then there was always wars, several wars happening all around the world at once. Europe and Asia especially always had wars between neighbouring kingdoms all the time with borders constantly being redrawn. Today is relatively peaceful in comparison.

On the other hand the fact that many nations posses nuclear weapons means that the end of the world as we know it can happen very quickly without much warning. A world war between Russia or China and America could result in a nuclear war that could turn continents into a thermonuclear wastelands. It may even occur through a computer virus or bug that unintentionally launches nuclear missiles.

What are your thoughts?
Are we living in the end times?
Good Day, Armour of God, how are you all? We are well. Good question. We answered yes. The Second Coming: Matthew 24:27-31.

Matthew 24


Love, Walter and Debbie
 
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Are we living in the end times?

For as long as I can remember there have been people saying that we are living in the end times, that the Armageddon is near, that Christ is returning, that the end of the world is upon us.

It seems like there have been people saying this in every generation since Christ. Even the apostles thought that they were living in the end times. Yet it never happened, the world kept on going.

People say that we live in dark times but we actually live in a peaceful world if you look at history and compare it to the world before WW2. Before then there was always wars, several wars happening all around the world at once. Europe and Asia especially always had wars between neighbouring kingdoms all the time with borders constantly being redrawn. Today is relatively peaceful in comparison.

On the other hand the fact that many nations posses nuclear weapons means that the end of the world as we know it can happen very quickly without much warning. A world war between Russia or China and America could result in a nuclear war that could turn continents into a thermonuclear wastelands. It may even occur through a computer virus or bug that unintentionally launches nuclear missiles.

What are your thoughts?
Are we living in the end times?

Right on all counts.....
I was a launch officer on a nuclear ballistic missile submarine and I will let you know that nuclear weapons are old technology. We have much better and effective weapons. Part of them was used in the Venezuela conflict.
We can reduce their country to 1800's, confuse their minds so they do not know who they are shooting at and a host of virus including fatal constipation.

And you are right we live in times of relative peace. There was a time when world domination was an interest for a lot of people. It was common to see armies moving through living off the people, raping, pillaging and plundering was a sport. Fields of dead bodies, hundreds of people impaled on wooden stakes, and naked people crucified at the gates of cities as warnings. The coliseums made killing and atrocities a sport like football with crowds cheering the killers and killing on.

Why has Yeshua not returned? 2000 years! Every word led the Apostles to believe it could happen any day. Nothing about thousands of years. The delay probably has something to do with what changed between the testaments that caused the need for the Messiah to be a God. Of course that is speculation. But as it is there were times in the past that there were pressing needs for Yeshua to return, but now, not so much. Maybe sometime in the future.
 
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Good Day, Armour of God, how are you all? We are well. Good question. We answered yes. The Second Coming: Matthew 24:27-31.

Matthew 24


Love, Walter and Debbie
Thanks for your input. I'm doing well.

I have been reading Matthew 24 very closely recently. Some people say that Christ has already returned. But 27-31 tells me that everyone will witness Christ's return so I don't think it's happened yet.

When will it happen? Will it happen soon?
I don't know. Many in the past thought they were living in end times including the apostles and it didn't happen.

All I can do is to continue to follow Jesus and trust in God for He will be victorious.
 
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ctually we had just the one prophesy, and got the timing wrong

Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society publications have made a series of predictions about Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's kingdom, each of which has gone unfulfilled. Almost all the predictions for 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, and 1925 were later reinterpreted as a confirmation of the eschatological framework of the Bible Student movement and Jehovah's Witnesses, with many of the predicted events viewed as having taken place invisibly.
 

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I didn't know you were JW. It doesn't bother me. I don't get hung up on minor differences. I don't fit into any denomination really but I was raised by Catholic parents.
To me your still a sister in Christ.

I think it's important to admit that we will never know everything as you said. Some things will remain a mystery to us in this world.

I remain uncertain about the end times. If it comes then it comes. There is nothing I can do about it but continue to live my life righteously and trust in God.
In the end God will triumph.

I worship with many different denominations but Jehovah's Witnesses....minor differences! This forum has issues for pressing and believing in false beliefs and it tolerates people that do not believe Yeshua is a God,
 

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Right on all counts.....
I was a launch officer on a nuclear ballistic missile submarine and I will let you know that nuclear weapons are old technology. We have much better and effective weapons. Part of them was used in the Venezuela conflict.
We can reduce their country to 1800's, confuse their minds so they do not know who they are shooting at and a host of virus including fatal constipation.

And you are right we live in times of relative peace. There was a time when world domination was an interest for a lot of people. It was common to see armies moving through living off the people, raping, pillaging and plundering was a sport. Fields of dead bodies, hundreds of people impaled on wooden stakes, and naked people crucified at the gates of cities as warnings. The coliseums made killing and atrocities a sport like football with crowds cheering the killers and killing on.

Why has Yeshua not returned? 2000 years! Every word led the Apostles to believe it could happen any day. Nothing about thousands of years. The delay probably has something to do with what changed between the testaments that caused the need for the Messiah to be a God. Of course that is speculation. But as it is there were times in the past that there were pressing needs for Yeshua to return, but now, not so much. Maybe sometime in the future.
I agree. The world has seen much worse times than today.
It's interesting that you say nukes are old tech and that there are more devastating weapons.
Do you think a world war between the big powers, Russia or China vs USA, can bring the end of the world as we know it and bring about the return of Christ?
 

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I agree. The world has seen much worse times than today.
It's interesting that you say nukes are old tech and that there are more devastating weapons.
Do you think a world war between the big powers, Russia or China vs USA, can bring the end of the world as we know it and bring about the return of Christ?

We have been faced with the ability to make our planet uninhabitable for quite some time. And they know when they press the button to annihilate their enemy they annihilate themselves....so it is unlikely to happen. Limited nuclear exchange with a small country is more likely. Like Iran that is stupid enough to use it would be more likely, Iran is playing with fire because Isreal has nukes.

Of course it is correct for our country to stand and defend Isreal but part of it is because we do not want Isreal to nuke these countries. Nuking in the sand is a bad thing. It throws all the radiated sand in the atmosphere and it circles the globe.
 
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Could you tell me which verse? Because at John 14:19, Jesus said, "in a little while the world will see me no more, but you will see me because I live and you will live." And we know the Bible doesn't contradict itself
When was it that the world could see Him with their own physical eyes? That's how we know what He was talking about. He was speaking of His leaving this earth when He was crucified, rose again, and ascended up to Heaven.
 

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So im guessing that you interpret this as no one will see Jesus coming.
The angels said Jesus would return in the same “manner” as he left....how did he leave? No one but his apostles saw him go...the world at large was unaware that it happened....with no fanfare.

Why did Jesus need to give signs in world events to alert his disciples of his “presence”? (parousia)
Does that mean that his return was not a visible event except that what happened in the world after that was to indicate it?
Unprecedented wars...pestilence, earthquakes, false Christs, and love disappearing from the majority of mankind...if these things indicated his invisible return, then what is to come is his manifestation as judge and executioner? This is what every eye will see......that is the finale’.
Ok but in Mathew 24:27 it says this

27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man

And then Matthew 24:30 says this

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory

To me that sounds like everyone will see the return of Christ.
The “sign of the Son of Man” is what will tell the world what the flood told the world in Noah’s day....what Noah had been warning the people about was now in front of their eyes, too late now to jump on the ark, last minute.....but God never brings any punishment without warning. Like the days of Noah there has been an army of wiling volunteers preaching about God’s kingdom in all the world, apart from the divided and bickering churches of Christendom....separated from them, and in these last days Jesus has been overseeing the work he assigned to his disciples before he left....personally visiting people at their homes with this message of hope in a world gone mad...like his first century disciples had done.(Acts 5:42; Acts 20:20)

Matt 28:19-20...he commanded them...
“Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20  teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

Jesus has been with them since the last days began with the unprecedented war that no one saw coming....1914 was the first war in the history of mankind that involved the whole world.....yet before that fateful year that would change history forever, the prospects for peace had never been better.
Out of nowhere Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated, and they called it “the shot that was heard around the world”.....due to the recently signed alliances that all nations had signed, supposedly guaranteeing world peace, but a war erupted that engulfed all the nations and took many lives....the Spanish Flu epidemic that followed, took more lives than the war did.

1914 was also calculated using the prophesy in Daniel about Messiah’s coming.....knowing when the last days began, does not tell us when they end.....only God knows “the day and the hour”.

I will detail that later if you like.....as I have to go now.....
 

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The angels said Jesus would return in the same “manner” as he left....how did he leave? No one but his apostles saw him go...the world at large was unaware that it happened....with no fanfare.

Why did Jesus need to give signs in world events to alert his disciples of his “presence”? (parousia)
Does that mean that his return was not a visible event except that what happened in the world after that was to indicate it?
Unprecedented wars...pestilence, earthquakes, false Christs, and love disappearing from the majority of mankind...if these things indicated his invisible return, then what is to come is his manifestation as judge and executioner? This is what every eye will see......that is the finale’.

The “sign of the Son of Man” is what will tell the world what the flood told the world in Noah’s day....what Noah had been warning the people about was now in front of their eyes, too late now to jump on the ark, last minute.....but God never brings any punishment without warning. Like the days of Noah there has been an army of wiling volunteers preaching about God’s kingdom in all the world, apart from the divided and bickering churches of Christendom....separated from them, and in these last days Jesus has been overseeing the work he assigned to his disciples before he left....personally visiting people at their homes with this message of hope in a world gone mad...like his first century disciples had done.(Acts 5:42; Acts 20:20)

Matt 28:19-20...he commanded them...
“Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20  teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

Jesus has been with them since the last days began with the unprecedented war that no one saw coming....1914 was the first war in the history of mankind that involved the whole world.....yet before that fateful year that would change history forever, the prospects for peace had never been better.
Out of nowhere Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated, and they called it “the shot that was heard around the world”.....due to the recently signed alliances that all nations had signed, supposedly guaranteeing world peace, but a war erupted that engulfed all the nations and took many lives....the Spanish Flu epidemic that followed, took more lives than the war did.

1914 was also calculated using the prophesy in Daniel about Messiah’s coming.....knowing when the last days began, does not tell us when they end.....only God knows “the day and the hour”.

I will detail that later if you like.....as I have to go now.....

I'm sorry but I'm skeptical that Jesus returned in 1914.

WW1 didn't involve the whole world. Most of the worlds nations didn't fight at all, most of Africa, most of South America and most of Asia didnt fight. Even most North American nations didn't fight when you include the Carribean islands and central America. It was mainly fought in Europe with some naval battles here and there over minor territories.

There were heaps more wars before WW1, especially in Europe, wars that lasted centuries, not just a few years. For example the reconquista was a war between Christians and Muslims in the Iberian peninsula that lasted almost 800 years. It makes WW1 look like a very short skirmish and they were all convinced Christ was returning in their day just as the apostles did, yet it never happened.
Old wars were way more horrific, they used to pillage, loot and burn villages, rape, torture and kill innocent people, beheadings, leave people dead on stakes to scare the opposition, it was a sport back then and it happened every year. In comparison our world is actually very peaceful since WW2.

That's why i remain skeptical that Jesus has returned at all. I interpret Matthew 24:27-31 as saying everyone will witness his return, not just a few peope. That's my opinion anyway
 
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I'm sorry but I'm skeptical that Jesus returned in 1914.
I appreciate your scepticism.....but I find the details compelling...
WW1 didn't involve the whole world. Most of the worlds nations didn't fight at all, most of Africa, most of South America and most of Asia didnt fight. Even most North American nations didn't fight when you include the Carribean islands and central America. It was mainly fought in Europe with some naval battles here and there over minor territories.
If you do a little research, you will find that a very large portion of the world was involved in WW1.
About 30-32 countries officially fought and these were divided mainly into allied powers (Britain, France, Russia and later the USA.
There were central powers also like Germany, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire and Bulgaria.

About 70% of the worlds’s population were dragged into the conflict because major empires contolled vast territories.
Britain and France controlled huge parts of Africa, Southern Asia (India) Southeast Asia and the Middle East.
Even if some were not engaged in actual combat, people and resources from those regions were drawn into the war.

About 70 million military personnel were mobilised, which included troops from India, Africa and the Caribbean.
There were heaps more wars before WW1, especially in Europe, wars that lasted centuries, not just a few years. For example the reconquista was a war between Christians and Muslims in the Iberian peninsula that lasted almost 800 years. It makes WW1 look like a very short skirmish and they were all convinced Christ was returning in their day just as the apostles did, yet it never happened.
It’s not the length of the war that mattered, but the scale. The Reconquista was not a single war but a process by which supposedly “Christian” Kingdoms in Spain, gradually took back territories from Muslim rulers....so it was basically taking back land that was taken from them by conquest.

Unfortunately these purportedly “Christian” (Catholic) Kingdoms fought each other as well.

Christians, Jews and Muslims all lived in Liberia.....sometimes they got along and sometimes they didn’t.
Old wars were way more horrific, they used to pillage, loot and burn villages, rape, torture and kill innocent people, beheadings, leave people dead on stakes to scare the opposition, it was a sport back then and it happened every year. In comparison our world is actually very peaceful since WW2.
I guess when you hear some of the stories that surfaced after the war was long over, you understand what whitewashing propaganda looks like. We were not told the half of it. Humans write history to make themselves look good...and the opposers look like the bad guys. That is what propaganda does.....it gives people a false view of what really happened.

And looking back on barbaric times we get to understand that there was little respect for human life down through the centuries....but as the last days drew near, the world had become a little more civilised, and as technology advanced and weaponry became more a case of mass destruction rather than hand to hand combat, it looks easier but the death toll was enormous, once bombs could be dropped from aircraft and then intercontinental ballistic missiles were employed to cause mass destruction of property far away, as well as many lives lost in a single hit....and then of course we have the nuclear weapons, capable of destroying all life on this planet if some idiots are stupid enough to employ them.....this is when you know that the wars in this era are not the same at all....their potential is unprecedented in history.
That's why i remain skeptical that Jesus has returned at all. I interpret Matthew 24:27-31 as saying everyone will witness his return, not just a few peope. That's my opinion anyway
Your opinion is duly noted but just to reinforce the time frame from the prophesy in Daniel, this is how we get to 1914....

Why 1914?

Under the heading...
Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses say that God’s Kingdom was established in 1914?

Two lines of evidence point to that year: (1) Bible chronology and (2) the events since 1914 in fulfillment of prophecy. Here we will consider the chronology.

So what follows is how we calculate the beginning of the “the time of the end”....but remember that it doesn’t tell us “the day or the hour” when it will end.....any more than Noah knew the exact time when the flood would begin. But we do know that Noah and his family were on board with all the animals that God brought to him, and everything was prepared when it started. Noah simply followed God’s instructions...”he did just so”.....this is what we have to do too.

It’s not a literal ark today because there will never be another flood, but there is a spiritual one that Peter spoke about...(1 Peter 3:20-21)

2 Peter 2:4-10 speaks of examples in the past that fit things that were to happen in the future.

2 Peter 3:5-7 speaks about the flood and what happened to the people of Noah’s day who ridiculed him....

“For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6  and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. 7  But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people.”

Who were the “ungodly people” back then? It must have been a horrible time to live with the violence and immorality rampant in the world of Noah’s day....and the presence of the Nephilim.

Yet only Noah and his family survived....why?

Jesus answers....Matt 24:37-39...
“For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38  For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, 39  and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.”

They failed to heed the warning that Noah gave them ...they ignored it....and ridiculed him.

Peter goes on to say....vs 9-13...
“Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. 10  But Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be exposed.

11  Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, consider what sort of people you ought to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, 12  as you await and keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah, through which the heavens will be destroyed in flames and the elements will melt in the intense heat! 13  But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.”


So how does this apply to us? How do we “keep close in mind” the coming “day of Jehovah” when his Son will do battle with all who disobey the teachings given to him by his Father?

“Sheep and goats” are all that he will find in the world when the judgment is handed down....

Will we be “sheep” or “goats”...what is the difference?
 
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Great question! IMO, there are 2 ways to look at it.

1. AMBIGUOUS/METAPHORICAL. Jesus ushered in that part of Isaiah that we are in the ‘year’ of the Lord’s favor.

This Age is before the ‘end times.’

2. Revelation 6. Some prophecy that we are living through Revelation 6 with the release of the Black horse expected by years end.

After the Apocolypse, there is supposed to be a 1,000 year rule with Christ. So, depending on what end you are referring to, we have a ways to go.

We do have a ways to go. But I don't believe in the 1,000 year rule/reign with Christ. It's false doctrine that plays a role in setting up the anti-christ's kingdom.
 

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No, but possibly within the next 1,050 solar years, but I am not counting that I will still be alive then, but I will be resurrected to face my judgement for my life and actions.

I'd say it's going to be more than 1,050 years.
 

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I'd say it's going to be more than 1,050 years.

Could very well be depending on the confidence level we have in our data. Since we are generally using stories for our source of data, our confidence level in the accuracies presented in these Biblical stories could be plus or minus up to 5 years and then when we add the conclusion of a number of stories and their time data, then our combined confidence levels are added which means that over many years the various story telling errors must be added together.

However, in my research the number of years that dropped out many times with respect to the duration of and age/generation kept repeating and as such the conclusion as to when the end of the seventh age can be considered to be fairly accurate.

I am reasonably happy with suggestion that the final judgement will conclude in around 1,050 years from now.
 

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Are we living in the end times?

Every living person…today…is Living in the Days of getting older, reverting to their beginning, losing teeth, losing hair, losing muscle, difficulty walking, can’t walk, can’t feed themselves, losing knowledge, losing memory…

Preparing for “their” End of Days… to meet their Maker, as a Child.

Gods END of days as we know them…shall be a surprise.

Interesting Note.

Scripture teaches to raise up a child in the Word of God.

If you have Ever visited an old folks home, whereby, they wheel residents into a “community room”, give them food, a stack of old magazines…or Have a tv playing…they sit quietly, staring, or eyes closed….

I have witnessed…that… AND…then plunk on the Piano and Begin singing … for example…. “JESUS loves me”… and the majority of the residents… become alert, mouths open, singing along, smiling, tapping their fingers, clapping their hands, Look happy.

Point… they may forget, family, heartaches… but if they Knew Jesus… they never forget Him!

Just saying… Scripture teaches to visit Prisoners and the Elderly… and the point is to Give them, Hope in what they may not have Learned and or/ a reminder of what they will never forget.

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Are we living in the end times?

For as long as I can remember there have been people saying that we are living in the end times, that the Armageddon is near, that Christ is returning, that the end of the world is upon us.

It seems like there have been people saying this in every generation since Christ. Even the apostles thought that they were living in the end times. Yet it never happened, the world kept on going.

People say that we live in dark times but we actually live in a peaceful world if you look at history and compare it to the world before WW2. Before then there was always wars, several wars happening all around the world at once. Europe and Asia especially always had wars between neighbouring kingdoms all the time with borders constantly being redrawn. Today is relatively peaceful in comparison.

On the other hand the fact that many nations posses nuclear weapons means that the end of the world as we know it can happen very quickly without much warning. A world war between Russia or China and America could result in a nuclear war that could turn continents into a thermonuclear wastelands. It may even occur through a computer virus or bug that unintentionally launches nuclear missiles.

What are your thoughts?
Are we living in the end times?
"End times" typically refers to a final seven-year period (see Daniel 9:27). These evens will be very clear, and will include the partial rebuilding of the Jewish temple (Malachi 3:1).
 
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