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Romans 1:19-20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Not everyone who recognizes the creator knows anything about Jesus.
Billions. (burning in hell according to you)

You are without excuse.
 

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When a person conflates his/her opinions with the bible and cannot see where the dividing line is he/she advertises their perceptive limitations.
Is that a confession? No opinion needed. Several Bible Books declare the Genesis Flood to be literal. Why do you profess to be Christian and reject Jesus, Moses, Isaiah, Luke, Matthew, Hebrews, Peter ...?
 
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Is that a confession? No opinion needed. Several Bible Books declare the Genesis Flood to be literal. Why do you profess to be Christian and reject Jesus, Moses, Isaiah, Luke, Matthew, Hebrews, Peter ...?
Someone making reference to a myth doesn't make it literal.
For example... the Jewish rolling stone myth.

1 Corinthians 10:4 NIV
and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual
rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
 

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Someone making reference to a myth doesn't make it literal.
For example... the Jewish rolling stone myth.
There you go folks, STV declaring our Bible to be "MYTH"! That makes STV's salvation MYTH also! Good luck on Judgment Day STV! Hell Fire is real. Jesus said so several times.
1 Corinthians 10:4 NIV
and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual
rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
Oh, you found a verse you like. What about the hundreds/thousands you don't like?
 
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Graffiti on a college building wall.

If only Christians go to Heaven, then I'd rather go to Hell.

What's wrong with this picture?

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Interesting that people are only taught about two destinations: heaven or hell.

What about living here at the Earth? Matthew 5:5; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; etc., etc.
 
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Interesting that people are only taught about two destinations: heaven or hell.

What about living here at the Earth? Matthew 5:5; Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 11:6-9; etc., etc.
Yes.
It's a mentality that most of us, whether churched or not, grew up with.
The fork in the road at the end of the trail.

Hell for bad people and heaven for good people. (whatever that means)
Except for trying to live a good life, we don't seem to have much say in the matter. (in general)
The mantra of the church is believe or burn. (whatever that means)
Judgement (evaluation) awaits the nations, the leaders (government and religious) and each individual.
Rewards or correction for every deed and thought.
 

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Anyone who denies Jesus' several warnings about Hell Fire denies Jesus of the Bible! They are in the same sinking ship with JW's! No Savior!

Matthew 5:22
22 Whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
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Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient​


This was the "Why only us?" question I had to grapple with as a young adult.

Is it true? Heaven is only for Christians? What does that even mean?
 
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Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient​


This was the "Why only us?" question I had to grapple with as a young adult.

Is it true? Heaven is only for Christians? What does that even mean?
Why don't you read what Jesus said about Hell Fire, the EVERLASTING Fire, the Furnace of Fire, the Lake of Fire... It's in the Bible that you said you don't trust.
 
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Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient​


This was the "Why only us?" question I had to grapple with as a young adult.

Is it true? Heaven is only for Christians? What does that even mean?
i suggest you read for WHOM is the lake of fire .
Now when you read
be sure and pay attention to the word UNBELEIVERS .
Be sure and pay attention to those who made and loved A LIE .
And be sure and go back to gensis and SEE what GOD had first told man
Then see what the serpent told eve . guess what . GOD DIDNT LIE when he said IN the day ye eat
of it ye shall surely die . BUT THE SERPENT surely did .
THEN remember JESUS HIMSELF warned about such that would come upon those
WHO BELIEVED NOT . now who ya gonna sit under
serpent theology or what JESUS SAID . THEY WILL PERISH st steven if they beleive NOT that JESUS is the CHRIST .
DIE in their inquity . But who do you beleive JESUS , thus GOD , or men and fables .
You better watch out . You are in danger and know it not .
Better start preaching JESUS and the dire need TO BELEIVE ON HIM and with many reminders
of DOING SO . hurry now . And flee the realm of deconstruction and NEVER look back .
 

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Why don't you read what Jesus said about Hell Fire, the EVERLASTING Fire, the Furnace of Fire, the Lake of Fire... It's in the Bible that you said you don't trust.
and in that same bible we read in revelation
IF any adds to or takes from the words in this book . OH me and oh my , THE LAKE OF FIRE SURELY AWAITS .
I suppose it will be filled with those who said OH IT DONT EXIST
and preach rather some form of universalism or any other ism for that matter .
people better watch out for many deceivers do abound and specially in these late and last hours on earth .
JESUS warned on earth of such a place
AND later from heaven OF such place .
Now men i know can lie . BUT NOT GOD .
NOT GOD .
And if JESUS said it , FROM WHOM do we think IT came . GOD .
the same GOD that had first warned adam not to eat of said tree for he will perish in the day he did .
Serpent spoke otherwise , eve bought the lie and adam ate of her hand , AND DEATH surely did come upon all ever since .
GOD sends teh SON
and the SON tells them YE MUST BELEIVE to be SAVED , TO have eternal life or perish .
Again along comes the serpent , With yet again his lie , OH Surely they shall not perish if they beleive not .
Many folks follow serepent theology from the pulpits of men gone wrong .
 
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and in that same bible we read in revelation
IF any adds to or takes from the words in this book . OH me and oh my , THE LAKE OF FIRE SURELY AWAITS .
I suppose it will be filled with those who said OH IT DONT EXIST
and preach rather some form of universalism or any other ism for that matter .
people better watch out for many deceivers do abound and specially in these late and last hours on earth .
JESUS warned on earth of such a place
AND later from heaven OF such place .
Now men i know can lie . BUT NOT GOD .
NOT GOD .
And if JESUS said it , FROM WHOM do we think IT came . GOD .
the same GOD that had first warned adam not to eat of said tree for he will perish in the day he did .
Serpent spoke otherwise , eve bought the lie and adam ate of her hand , AND DEATH surely did come upon all ever since .
GOD sends teh SON
and the SON tells them YE MUST BELEIVE to be SAVED , TO have eternal life or perish .
Again along comes the serpent , With yet again his lie , OH Surely they shall not perish if they beleive not .
Many folks follow serepent theology from the pulpits of men gone wrong .
Gee, I wonder how much STV has chopped from his bible.
 

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Book = scroll. (this scroll)

How many scrolls in the Bible? (66) ???
Well let's see, you chopped the Genesis Flood from several Books of the Bible. You chopped Hell Fire out of your bible that Jesus warned you of several times. You refused to tell us if you believe any of the Bible is God's written Word. Tip of the 'iceberg'? That may not be so good on your Judgment Day resume'!
 

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Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient​


This was the "Why only us?" question I had to grapple with as a young adult.

Is it true? Heaven is only for Christians? What does that even mean?
what does the Bible say ?
 

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what does the Bible say ?
Romans 2:14-16 NIV
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law,
do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves,
even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them
and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets
through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32, 36
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

John 1:29 NIV
... The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

1 Timothy 4:10 NIV
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

1 John 4:14 NIV
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
 

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Romans 2:14-16 NIV
(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law,
do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves,
even though they do not have the law.
15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts,
their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them
and at other times even defending them.)
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets
through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 11:32, 36
32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.
To him be the glory forever! Amen.

Titus 2:11 ESV
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

John 1:29 NIV
... The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!

1 Timothy 4:10 NIV
That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.

1 John 4:14 NIV
And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.
Why are you quoting Bible when you said, "no wonder I don't trust the Bible"?
 

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When you talk about Heaven you have to mention Hell Fire that Jesus taught. When someone says "no wonder I don't trust the Bible" Hell Fire is their destiny, FOREVER, as Jesus said!