Is it okay to blame God for stuff that is his fault?

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Where does it say temporarily??? It doesn't! You're making that up!

The WORD Temporarily, needs NOT to be Said, which a WISE person son, There are Actions that Follow thereafter!

Why would Jesus warn us of THE FIRE several times????

Not a mystery… The Heat, without ability to cool off, is A Very Very uncomfortable long lasting experience.

Hell Fire is "FOREVER"! Jesus said so.

So?
No one said it wasn’t.

No answer… to direct questions…

 

[Jack]

The WORD Temporarily, needs to be Said, which a WISE person son, There are Actions that Follow thereafter!

Ain't no temporary Hell Fire! Its everlasting. Jesus called it the EVERLASTING Fire!

Not a mystery… The Heat, without ability to cool off, is A Very Very uncomfortable long lasting experience.

So?
No one said it wasn’t.

No answer… to direct questions…

Again ZERO Scripture! You will be held accountable for everyone you convince there is no ETERNAL punishment that Jesus clearly taught!

 

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"The rich man died"!

He was alive CRYING in the fire! Jesus said so!

Oh good grief… vague, as expected.

What died?
The Rich mans DEAD BODY!
Where was it?
His BODY was BURIED IN DIRT!
What was Alive?
The Rich mans SOUL!
Where was it?
His Living SOUL was in Hell In The Flames.

What are Flames? The Heat and Light, Fire emits.
What is Fire? A gas that combusts, Burns.

The Rich mans Living Soul was NOT “Thrown into Fire!”

Any diligent student of Scripture, Should KNOW…
Dead Body’s are Not Buried in Hell.
Dead Bodys do Not suffer torments.
Unsaved Living Souls are SENT to Hell…
Temporarily, to suffer, separation from God, suffer Unpleasant Heat, no relief from the Heat, suffer Putrid Stench, suffer hearing the cries of utter unpleasantness, with no relief.

And a diligent Student of Scripture Should KNOW… any having been Temporarily IN Hell,
Shall Have a Day of Judgement…
Judgement Shall then Reveal their Final Sentence.

Then Shall their Final Sentence BE Accomplished.

Those unsaved Living souls IN Hell… Shall All become MADE….Dead Souls…
By God “Departing “His breath of Life Out from their Souls!

Then Shall Their Dead Lifeless Body and Dead Lifeless Soul, be THROWN into the Fire to burn up, become Dust, And Forgotten…

Never is any part of a Living man thrown into a Fire, and “that Dead man Live and suffer forever in Fire”…

Scripture teaches no such thing as you vaguely teach… he alive, he dead, he in Fire, he alive suffering forever…

The Lord Warns… fear Him that can DESTROY both body and soul in Hell…

Wise men Know destroyed things do Not Continue forever suffering… or living!

Matt 10:
[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Until you figure out the whole of a man… and the Life of each, and what words mean, you shall continue to be without the WHOLE truth.

Flame is not Fire.

 

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Ain't no temporary Hell Fire! Its everlasting. Jesus called it the EVERLASTING Fire!

Again ZERO Scripture! You will be held accountable for everyone

you convince there is no ETERNAL punishment that Jesus clearly taught!

How utterly Dumb…and False.
Not once did I say that!

 

[Jack]

Oh good grief… vague, as expected.

Vague indeed. You give ZERO Scripture, only your opinions!

What died?
The Rich mans DEAD BODY!

Yeah, but he was very much alive "being in torments"!

See I quoted Jesus. Why don't you?

Where was it?
His BODY was BURIED IN DIRT!
What was Alive?

The rich man. Jesus said so!

The Rich mans SOUL!
Where was it?
His Living SOUL was in Hell In The Flames.

Exactly! He was in Hell Fire!

What are Flames? The Heat and Light, Fire emits.
What is Fire? A gas that combusts, Burns.

I hope you don't find out the hard way. Are you JW?

The Rich mans Living Soul was NOT “Thrown into Fire!”

Quoting Jesus, he was in torments!

Any diligent student of Scripture, Should KNOW…
Dead Body’s are Not Buried in Hell.
Dead Bodys do Not suffer torments.
Unsaved Living Souls are SENT to Hell…
Temporarily, to suffer, separation from God, suffer Unpleasant Heat, no relief from the Heat, suffer Putrid Stench, suffer hearing the cries of utter unpleasantness, with no relief.

And a diligent Student of Scripture Should KNOW… any having been Temporarily IN Hell,
Shall Have a Day of Judgement…
Judgement Shall then Reveal their Final Sentence.

Then Shall their Final Sentence BE Accomplished.

Those unsaved Living souls IN Hell… Shall All become MADE….Dead Souls…
By God “Departing “His breath of Life Out from their Souls!

Then Shall Their Dead Lifeless Body and Dead Lifeless Soul, be THROWN into the Fire to burn up, become Dust, And Forgotten…

Never is any part of a Living man thrown into a Fire, and “that Dead man Live and suffer forever in Fire”…

Scripture teaches no such thing as you vaguely teach… he alive, he dead, he in Fire, he alive suffering forever…

The Lord Warns… fear Him that can DESTROY both body and soul in Hell…

Wise men Know destroyed things do Not Continue forever suffering… or living!

Matt 10:
[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Until you figure out the whole of a man… and the Life of each, and what words mean, you shall continue to be without the WHOLE truth.

Flame is not Fire.

So, how long is God gonna cook em?

 

[Jack]

How utterly Dumb…and False.
Not once did I say that!

You will be held accountable!

 

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You will be held accountable!

LOL… Not for what you and Dan Say For me…

I asked you Specific questions, you did not answer.

Funny how you have no problem speaking False claims For me, but can not answer for yourself.

 

[Jack]

LOL… Not for what you and Dan Say For me…

Nope, for everyone you convince there is no eternal Hell!

I asked you Specific questions, you did not answer.

Funny how you have no problem speaking False claims For me, but can not answer for yourself.

Funny how you avoid Scripture like a JW.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

What died?
The Rich mans DEAD BODY!

Funny how the dead man's body was telling Lazarus to go get him some cold water

 

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Nope, for everyone you convince there is no eternal Hell!

Your lie.
I said no such thing!

Funny how you avoid Scripture like a JW.

Another of your Lies.
I read, study, Use Scripture Daily.

When are you going to Learn the most basic principles of Common sense, to Speak for yourself and allow others the same courtesy?

 

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Funny how the dead man's body was telling Lazarus to go get him some cold water

Not funny at all… actually rather Dumb… considering…
Dead Bodys of men are buried. They Don’t talk!

The conversations in Hell are Living souls conversing!

Basic knowledge!

 

[Jack]

The WORD Temporarily, needs NOT to be Said, which a WISE person son, There are Actions that Follow thereafter!



Not a mystery… The Heat, without ability to cool off, is A Very Very uncomfortable long lasting experience.




So?
No one said it wasn’t.

No answer… to direct questions…

Your lie.
I said no such thing!

So now you agree with Jesus that humans will be tormented FOREVER?

Another of your Lies.
I read, study, Use Scripture Daily.

You must be missing some pages.

Matthew 13:49-50
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be SCREAMING and gnashing of teeth.

When are you going to Learn the most basic principles of Common sense, to Speak for yourself and allow others the same courtesy?

The Bible is not common sense.

The EVERLASTING FIRE is the most important doctrine in the NT! You will learn.

 

[Jack]

Not funny at all… actually rather Dumb… considering…
Dead Bodys of men are buried. They Don’t talk!

The conversations in Hell are Living souls conversing!

Living in Hell CRYING!

Basic knowledge!

Basic Bible knowledge:
Hebrews 10:31
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

You will learn!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The conversations in Hell are Living souls conversing!

Which proves something you claim is not true which is those who are not saved go to hell and are tormented there like the rich man.

Then later at the end of the age their physical body will be resurrected and will join them in hell where they will be tortured for eternity - spirit, soul, and body

 

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So now you agree with Jesus that humans will be tormented FOREVER?

I have said nothing That disagrees With Jesus, Scripture.

Like this for Example…
Ecc 9:
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Some how “you” have ALIVE humans Burning forever In Hell Fire.

No scripture you have presented Says Alive mens Bodys, Alive mens Souls are thrown into The Fire…and suffer Forever.



49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be SCREAMING and gnashing of teeth.[/QUOTE]

So? Vague.
Separate What wicked from What Just…?
Angels or Humans?

The EVERLASTING FIRE is the most important doctrine in the NT! You will learn.

Like in what most things you say… I disagree.
BELIEF is the most important and crucial doctrine on Scripture…. Not the disposal of the Corrupt and Rejectors.

The Rejectors carry so little weight, they shall be Remembered no more.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I have said nothing That disagrees With Jesus, Scripture.

Actually you have as you claim God will cause people to cease to exist once they get to hell.

That's not what Jesus taught

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Ecc 9:
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Yes, they are separated from the living so we have no further memory of them.

And those in hell will not know nuthin other than sheer terror

In Heaven the righteous will know as we are know, and in hell the unrighteous will experience the opposite and know nothing for pain and torment.

No scripture you have presented Says Alive mens Bodys, Alive mens Souls are thrown into The Fire…and suffer Forever.

Matthew 13:41,42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Mark 9:43-44
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 

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Which proves something you claim is not true which is those who are not saved go to hell and are tormented there like the rich man.

If I had claimed “your false accusation”… you could have quoted me!

Then later at the end of the age their physical body will be resurrected and will join them in hell where they will be tortured for eternity - spirit, soul, and body

WOW… that is the most ignorant Claim I have ever heard anyone make.
Sad and Laughable at the same time.

 

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Actually you have as you claim God will cause people to cease to exist once they get to hell.

That's not what Jesus taught

Unsaved men shall cease to exist.
Dirt existed, God created a form, God called that form a man.
When that form, dies, rots, returns to dirt… uh that form, Body, man, no longer exists.

Not rocket science.

 

[Jack]

I have said nothing That disagrees With Jesus, Scripture.

Like this for Example…
Ecc 9:
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Some how “you” have ALIVE humans Burning forever In Hell Fire.

No scripture you have presented Says Alive mens Bodys, Alive mens Souls are thrown into The Fire…and suffer Forever.



49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be SCREAMING and gnashing of teeth.

So? Vague.
Separate What wicked from What Just…?
Angels or Humans?



Like in what most things you say… I disagree.
BELIEF is the most important and crucial doctrine on Scripture…. Not the disposal of the Corrupt and Rejectors.

The Rejectors carry so little weight, they shall be Remembered no more.
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Unsaved men shall cease to exist.

BILLIONS will wish they ceased to exist!

Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

Eternal, exact same Greek Word! NEVER ending!

Dirt existed, God created a form, God called that form a man.
When that form, dies, rots, returns to dirt… uh that form, Body, man, no longer exists.

Not rocket science.