The challenge in Christianity is not to love Jesus, it's to love Judas.

[amigo de christo]

The challenge in Christianity is not to love Jesus, it's to love Judas.​

"Say what?"
"Love Judas? We hate Judas!"
"He betrayed our Lord! Why would we love Judas?"

Perhaps Jesus understood this better than we do.
As indicated in this scripture.

John 13:26-28 NIV
Jesus answered, “It is the one to whom I will give
this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish.”
Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Iscariot.
27 As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.
So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.”
28 But no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him.

Did Jesus love Judas?
If Jesus loved Judas, shouldn't we?

"To love a betrayer, a person who seeks your actual harm and
who slanders you, is a part of our faith (Luke 6:22; 1 Peter 4:4). It literally is
the story of Jesus Christ. Also a part of our faith is the separation between Holy and unholy,
as was stated previously, between friend and foes, which will lead to separation
even amongst family (Luke 12:53). Loving a person who seeks to harm us lays hot coals
on the heads of the betrayer (Romans 12:20), but it also is most Christ like
when done so. Love covers a multitude of sins (1 Peter 4:8) and it creates a pathway
for redemption (2 Corinthians 5:16-21) as we see people as more than just
flesh and blood, we see them as souls to be redeemed." Source

for someone who goes around hollering we ought to LOVE
i sure do not see LOVE in you my friend . At least not the LOVE that cometh of GOD .
I Do see the love that is of the world all around and about you my friend .
And not only do i not see LOVE
You wont go about preaching the LOVE OF GOD , FAITH IN JESUS , but rather
keep trying to plant ideas about how its gonna be okay for all in the end .
THAT my dear friend IS NOT THE LOVE OF GOD .
GOD is LOVE . And HE desires the death of none . SO HE DID SEND JESUS so that all who do
BELEIVE IN HIM would be saved and NOT PERISH .
But this inclusive universalism you keep trying to bring to us , OH no sir , ITS NOT LOVE AT ALL .
ITs false hope given by another who simply desires mankind to DIE and face the second death .
TRY preaching JESUS for a change and the dire reminder to BELIEVE ON HIM with the warning
of what cometh upon all who rejected HIM .
A hint .
IF YE BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE , YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS .
And rather than trying to air condition or remove the lake of fire,
AGAIN preach JESUS . cause I KNOW HE SAVES . AND I KNOW HE WHO BELEIVES ON HIM SHALL BE SAVED .
And i KNOW all who deny HIM , HE WILL DENY THEM . so how about we Open them bibles again
and kick out deconstruction and rather start BELEIVING what is actually written .

 

[amigo de christo]

THANK YOU for the Reminder that Grace does not grant a license to sin!!!

Grace is indeed not a license to sin OR a means to preach UNBELIEF .
As the well favored harlot and her ecumeincal cup is PRONE TO SURELY DO .
cause what it calleth love and it calleth grace , HAS MADE THE ROAD TO GOD MASSIVELY BROAD
and DARN SURE DENIES the DIRE NEED FOR TO REPENT AND BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
Now that , my friend , the GRACE OF GOD DOES NOT DO .

 

[Brakelite]

Jesus called Judas a devil. I have serious doubts if we are called to love devils.

 

[St. SteVen]

Jesus called Judas a devil. I have serious doubts if we are called to love devils.

Are you claiming that Jesus didn't love Judas?
We should follow His example, me thinks.

 

[Brakelite]

Are you claiming that Jesus didn't love Judas?
We should follow His example methinks.

Mmmm. Yes, we are to follow His example. Did He love Judas? I believe yes. Do I love devils? No. Should I? I don't think so. I have no inclination nor motivation nor conviction to do so.

 

[St. SteVen]

Mmmm. Yes, we are to follow His example. Did He love Judas? I believe yes. Do I love devils? No. Should I? I don't think so. I have no inclination nor motivation nor conviction to do so.

If we harbor unforgiveness, can God forgive us?

 

[Brakelite]

If we harbor unforgiveness, can God forgive us?

Unforgiveness has nothing to do with treating Satan and his demons with relative indifference.

 

[stevesonthebay]

I think Jesus also was sad that His own people had betrayed Him and done such evil. He also said "forgive them for they know not what they do". So he was looking past the sin and loving the person and longing for them to be saved. Despite that humans will sin and even betray Him.

I think its a powerful disposition and one that causes people to quickly realise they have sinned against God and that God is all loving through Christ will forgive sinners.

Peter mentions that Christians are to obey masters and rulers even if they are unjust. Because this will expose the evil and turn peoples heads towards God by showing Christs example. Even without a word spoken. Just the example.

Its powerful and no words or arguement can defeat it. Its Christs love in action and if more Christians followed this they would cause the world to see God. Rather than all the bad examples which cause people to see Christians as hypocrites and turn people away from God.

 

[Brakelite]

If we harbor unforgiveness, can God forgive us?

In as much as we refuse to forgive those who have offended us, no. What am I forgiving Satan and his demons for? Is there hope for them redemptively?

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
If we harbor unforgiveness, can God forgive us?

Unforgiveness has nothing to do with treating Satan and his demons with relative indifference.

Jesus referred to Judas as a devil. That didn't mean that Judas WAS the Devil.

 

[amigo de christo]

Are you claiming that Jesus didn't love Judas?
We should follow His example, me thinks.

Well you are right about one thing , we SURE SHOULD follow the example of JESUS .
So lets try opening the bible and actually learning about THIS JESUS for ourselves .
The same one who called JUDAS the SON OF PERDTION
and said IT had been far better had that man never been born .
JESUS KNEW who judas was WHEN HE CHOSE JUDAS . now you probably do know this .
But i really want YOU to simply return to the bible
and you read them four gospels for you and then acts , romans , first and second corithinns
Galtaions , epheisains , phillipaians and collosians , first and second thess , first and second tim
then titus , then philemon , then hebrews , then james , then first and second peter
then all three johns , then jude , then revelation . THEN start over and just keep repeating TILL YOU SEE my friend .
And believe me if you truly d esire to know the TRUTH , YOU WILL SEE .
YOU will see exactly what i did . OH dear CHRISTENDOM is in dire trouble . ITS JESUS preaching TIME .

 

[St. SteVen]

The same one who called JUDAS the SON OF PERDTION
and said IT had been far better had that man never been born .
JESUS KNEW who judas was WHEN HE CHOSE JUDAS . now you probably do know this .

Are you claiming that Jesus didn't love Judas?

 

[amigo de christo]

Are you claiming that Jesus didn't love Judas?

keep on trying to seduce this people my friend with twisted words and the cost will be more than you can bear at your end .
YOU can keep on trying to bring half truths all day . but in the end it will surely have cost you your soul .
it dont matter whether or not JESUS Did LOVE judas . what matters was THE END OF JUDAS
and that end will be the same for all WHO rejected the true gospel OF THE REAL JESUS.
But no , not st st even , he is too busy going around t rying to preach inclusive universalism
rather THAN JESUS . I do not say that for my health and darn sure not for my well being .
I SAY IT for your own good . YES st even , I LOVE even those who despise me and count me an enemy .
BIBLE TIME steven . Bible time .

 

[St. SteVen]

it dont matter whether or not JESUS Did LOVE judas .

I think it matters a great deal.
Jesus taught us to love our enemies.
How could he NOT love Judas?

 

[amigo de christo]

I think it matters a great deal.
Jesus taught us to love our enemies.
How could he NOT love Judas?

did ya not read what i wrote . Its out of love i warn , e ven those who despise me .
But this ecumeincal love , this judge not correct not love , OH IT AINT LOVE AT ALL . NOT OF GOD anyway .
T his giving false hope stuff AINT LOVE .
PREACHING JESUS is LOVE . So get busy reminding all of the absolute dire need to believe on HIM .
Dont pave the road to periditon with this false love junk . Cause believe me , YOU GONNA be held accountable for it .

 

[St. SteVen]

... false love junk ...

LOL
Oh my.

 

[amigo de christo]

LOL
Oh my.

the sensual love of the world is not THE LOVE OF GOD s teven .

 

[amigo de christo]

LOL
Oh my.

the senusal love that cometh of the world is not THE LOVE OF GOD .
The Love that cometh of GOD would have put HIM , CHRIST first and foremost above all
And not have pandered to please man and give false hope . Rather IT had preached JESUS and all t hings HE did teach .
Reminding all of the dire NEED to BELEIVE ON HIM , rather than trying to give out false hope to the d ead .
Now preach JESUS and flee this inclusivism stuff .