What exactly is ''resting'' on the Sabbath as to keeping it 'Holy'?

[LawofLove]

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet

Compatible with the teachings of the early church.

Quotes from Early Church Fathers: the Sabbath, Lord's Day, and Worship - Apostles Creed

Quotes from Early Church Fathers: the Sabbath, Lord's Day, and Worship — A Scripture-based study and explanation.

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Should be clear enough.

You're saying someone outside the Bible's words are more important than what God said plainly, in His own voice and wrote with His own finger, Exo20:18 that's under His own mercy seat Exo25:21 in His own heavenly Temple Rev11:19. But, the creation, man had to corrected God, because God was confused about which day He said is His holy day and we are to keep holy?

You do know where confusion comes from? Not God.

If only people would listen to Jesus who is God made flesh who said: mankind should live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, not someone claiming to be Christian who changed God's times and laws. Dan 7:25 You are free to believe as you wish, I am sticking with what God said so plainly.

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

Isa 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

Mark2:27 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath

You can search the Scripture high and low and will not find one verse in the Bible where God took this back- He said I am the LORD your God and I do not change Mal3:6 hence Isa66:23

But He warned about anyone speaking for Him and adding and changing His words . Pro30:5-6 Ecc3:14 Deut4:2 Rev22:18 He also warned about getting our doctrine outside of Scripture

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there[a] is no light in them.

 

[David in NJ]

In all the years I've observed the sabbath, I have never heard anyone claim Sabbath observance, or obedience to any of God's laws, contributes to justification. However, in defence of NOT observing the Sabbath I constantly hear many making claims as you do here, that those who observe the Sabbath are doing so in order to be saved. Sorry, but that's like running around with a fire extinguisher to stop a flood.

FYI, I gave Jesus my heart, then He showed me a specific day of the week. Disobedience at that point wasn't an option.

Doesn't answer the question. I know what the transgression was... disloyalty and disobedience through desecration of the sabbath and idolatry. But what law does that transgress? What's the logic behind adding that law (to what) after the transgression has already made the law void through disobedience? I'm asking the questions because I want to understand your reasoning behind quoting the passage... "the law was added because of transgressions..." How is that a defence in favour of setting aside one of God's laws?

SDA, @Brakelite , @WalterandDebbie , @LawofLove @Lambano

Wouldn't it be a better approach to ask sister @thelord's_pearl WHY she chooses to keep Sabbath? And then respect her reasons for doing so? That would be consistent with Romans 14:4-5.

Is your position is based on feeling condemned by our Seventh Day Adventist brothers and sisters for NOT keeping Sabbath? Those who don't observe Sabbath need not feel defensive either. That's also a correct application of Romans 14:4-5.

I will defend both who keep Sabbath and those who don't. Verstehen Sie?

Romans 14:4-5 = DO NOT judge the LORD's servants on their choice of the day of the week which they gather - AMEN

When anyone holds saturday as if it were a NT commandment, you violate Romans 14:4-5, the Gospel, Acts and Colossians chapter 2

#1a - "thinking we know better than a thus saith the LORD"
No one can show or PROVE or bring forth a SINGLE word out of the Mouth of CHRIST or the Apostles that saturday is commanded under the New Covenant

#1b - "thinking we know better than a thus saith the LORD"
In fact, you reject "thus Saith the LORD" = Matthew 11:27-30
Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

#1c - "thinking we know better than a thus saith the LORD"
In fact, you reject the words of the HOLY SPIRIT, spoken to us, in Hebrews chapter 4

Therefore, while the promise of entering His rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be deemed to have fallen short of it.
For we also received the GOSPEL just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, since they did not share the faith of those who comprehended it.

3Now we who have believed enter that Rest.
As for the others, it is just as God has said/thus Saith the LORD:

“So I swore on oath in My anger,
‘They shall never enter My Rest.’”

In your religion, saturday worship now becomes mandatory and is added to "faith in CHRIST"

You reject "thus Saith the LORD" who declared the OT as "Finished" while dying on the Cross

#2 - "When that happens we become our own authority, in other words, god."

Shame on you, for you have subjected Salvation in Christ thru faith ALONE by your religion & saturday god = same as the Jews
To this day the unrepentant Jews observe saturday as their righteousness and obeying their god. - Romans 10:1-3

#3 - The salvation of Saul of Tarsus by the GRACE of GOD
Like yourselves, Saul of Tarsus was deeply agitated by those who violated the law.

Saul of Tarsus wanted to protect the law and his god by falsely accusing those who were set free from the law by the Blood of Christ.

Saul of Tarsus and the Temple keepers despised the working of the Holy Spirit in the people of the True and Living GOD

The GRACE of GOD overrides the obligation to the law/saturday, including mandatory saturday 'rest'.

The GRACE of GOD came to Saul of Tarsus and knocked him off his high religious horse

The GRACE of GOD thru the HOLY SPIRIRT and the Holy Scriptures taught Saul of Tarsus how he was WRONG and misunderstood the Law.

The GRACE of GOD transformed Saul of Tarsus into the Apostle Paul, thru the Blood of Christ and the Baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT

NOT once did the HOLY SPIRIT speak a return to mandatory saturday observance as required under the law. =
mandatory saturday rest under the law is NEVER found in the NEW Covenant nor in the Apostles writings/instructions for the Church

The GRACE of GOD transforms us and sets us FREE from the law and mandatory saturday observance = Gospel, Colossians ch2 , Romans

The GRACE of GOD calls us to gather under GRACE, 24/7, no matter the day of the week.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day/saturday, to the Lord he does not observe it.

@Lambano @Brakelite @LawofLove @WalterandDebbie @thelord's_pearl

Walk in the GRACE of GOD and turn away from judging your brothers/sisters in CHRIST by the law and making saturday a requirement of righteousness before GOD

HOLY SPIRIT Says: "By GRACE you have been Saved, and not of works lest anyone should boast

 

[LawofLove]

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day/saturday, to the Lord he does not observe it.

Show me one verse where the word of God is a doubtful disputation, the context of Rm 14. Ironically, the Sabbath, the holy day of the LORD is not mentioned in this entire Chapter. Paul said everything has to be according to Christ Col2:8- so show one verse where God said we do not have the keep the Sabbath day holy and instead choose a day for ourselves that He never blessed or sanctified for so.

You added to the word of God Romans 14 does not mention the Sabbath once. I would be careful with that but we have free will

 

[David in NJ]

Show me one verse where the word of God is a doubtful disputation, the context of Rm 14. Ironically, the Sabbath, the holy day of the LORD is not mentioned in this entire Chapter. Paul said everything has to be according to Christ- so show one verse where God said we do not have the keep the Sabbath day holy and instead choose a day for ourselves that He never blessed or sanctified for so.

You added to the word of God Romans 14 does not mention the Sabbath once. I would be careful with that but we have free will

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY the words of CHRIST and the Apostles in post 283 = with an Open heart

PLEASE do not make the mistake of hardness of heart thru religion that keeps the Jewish people in darkness

FYI = the TRUE "Law of Love" is CHRIST

 

[LawofLove]

PLEASE READ CAREFULLY the words of CHRIST and the Apostles in post 283 = with an Open heart

PLEASE do not make the mistake of hardness of heart thru religion that keeps the Jewish people in darkness

FYI = the TRUE "Law of Love" is CHRIST

I always read the Bible prayerfully with an open heart. Paul said plainly everything has to be according to Christ. Col2:8 All I am asking you to do is follow the same method as Paul and show where God in His own words said we do not need to keep the 4th commandment the way He said to. If you can't provide this I would prayerfully consider this verse 2Peter3:16

Jesus is not the law, its something He gave for those who love Him to keep. He says it so plainly in our Bibles.

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

John14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.

 

[David in NJ]

I always read the Bible prayerfully with an open heart. Paul said plainly everything has to be according to Christ. Col2:8

thus Saith the LORD: "Come to ME all you who are heavy laden and burdened, for I will give you REST"

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day/saturday or sunday,
to the Lord he does not observe it.

saturday is a great day to gather in worship unto the LORD = but it is NOT required

 

[David in NJ]

I always read the Bible prayerfully with an open heart. Paul said plainly everything has to be according to Christ. Col2:8 All I am asking you to do is follow the same method as Paul and show where God in His own words said we do not need to keep the 4th commandment the way He said to. If you can't provide this I would prayerfully consider this verse 2Peter3:16

Jesus is not the law, its something He gave for those who love Him to keep. He says it so plainly in our Bibles.

2 Peter 3:16 is against your position on saturday

 

[WalterandDebbie]

I always read the Bible prayerfully with an open heart. Paul said plainly everything has to be according to Christ. Col2:8 All I am asking you to do is follow the same method as Paul and show where God in His own words said we do not need to keep the 4th commandment the way He said to. If you can't provide this I would prayerfully consider this verse 2Peter3:16

Hello, Brother, LawofLove: Great post, Thank you.

Love, Walter

 

[LawofLove]

thus Saith the LORD: "Come to ME all you who are heavy laden and burdened, for I will give you REST"

Show where Jesus said because He give us rest which is a response to David about our sins being too heavy for us that we can sin and break the 4th commandment? Jesus said this and still kept the 4th commandment Luke4:16 John 15:10.

So you are adding liberties to the word of God that are just not there.

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day/saturday or sunday,
to the Lord he does not observe it.

saturday is a great day to gather in worship unto the LORD = but it is NOT required

Show the verse where it says the Sabbath anywhere in Romans 14? Not your added words. Show me where the word of God is a doubtful disputation anywhere else in Scripture?

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus is not the law, its something He gave for those who love Him to keep. He says it so plainly in our Bibles.

The LORD came to earth to fulfill the Law = for no man could = especially yourself

The LORD did NOT say for us to continue under the OT law!!!

The LORD gave HIS Life for us so that we could be set FREE from the OT law.


Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father. 3Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.

6And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!” 7Therefore you are no longer a slave but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

 

[David in NJ]

Hello, Brother, LawofLove: Great post, Thank you.

Love, Walter

shame on you as you speak against CHRIST and the Apostles thus causing division = the work of religion and satan

 

[David in NJ]

Show where Jesus said because He give us rest which is a response to David about our sins being too heavy for us that we can sin and break the 4th commandment? Jesus said this and still kept the 4th commandment Luke4:16 John 15:10.

So you are adding liberties to the word of God that are just not there.


Show the verse where it says the Sabbath anywhere in Romans 14? Not your added words. Show me where the word of God is a doubtful disputation anywhere else in Scripture?

The HOLY SPIRIT includes everyday of the 7 day week

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day/saturday or sunday, to the Lord he does not observe it.

 

[LawofLove]

The HOLY SPIRIT includes everyday of the 7 day week

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind.
He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day/saturday or sunday, to the Lord he does not observe it.

I cannot reason with someone who thinks their words are equal to the word of God. No where in Romans 14 says anything about the Sabbath, its not even the context of this passage and one would know if they slowed down and looked at the Text carefully like starting in verse 1. They are discussing opinions of man, things that are doubtful disputations, not the word of God, if they should obey or should not obey one of God's commandments. Paul plainly said everything has to be according to Christ, Christ is LORD of the Sabbath tearing down what He is LORD of doesn't tear it down, it just makes someone else their lord.

I understand there is no reasoning here, so I am going to move along..

Take care.

 

[David in NJ]

I cannot reason with someone who thinks their words are equal to the word of God. No where in Romans 14 says anything about the Sabbath, its not even the context of this passage and one would know if they slowed down and looked at the text carefully like starting in verse 1. They are discussing opinions of man, things that are doubtful disputations, not the word of God if they should or not should obey on of God's commandments. Paul plainly said everything has to be according to Christ, Christ is LORD of the Sabbath tearing down what He is LORD of doesn't tear it down, it just makes someone else their lord.

I understand there is no reasoning here, so I am going to move along..

Take care.

You cannot reason with the Holy Scriptures because you think your words override CHRIST and the Apostles

Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

17You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked; but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

@WalterandDebbie

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Wednesday, 5-20-26 4th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Sivan 2, 5786 62nd. Day Of Spring

KEEP MY WORDS - "If Anyone Love Me, He Will Keep My Word"

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Keep My Words​

John 14:23-26 Keep My Words​

John 14:27-31 (A) Peace I Leave With You


JOHN 14:23-24 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father who sent Me.

So, what does Jesus do with Judas' question in John 14:22: “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world”?
He expands it to cover all of His followers and replies, "My Father will love ... and We will come to ... and make Our home with him" who "will keep My word" (John 14:23).

How serious is Jesus that His followers "keep My word" (John 14:23) and "commandments" (John 14:21)?
Serious enough to repeat it for emphasis in the negative: "He who does not love Me does not keep My words" (John 4:24).

Is keeping His words and commandment what enables our salvation?
No, it’s the evidence of our love for Him and of our salvation, which is a free gift from Him.

Why must we study the Bible?
Without studying it, we won’t know what Jesus said or commanded, which means we can't evidence our love for Him as He wants us to. In addition, we leave ourselves open to distortions and lies that Satan' false prophets peddle as Jesus' words and commandments.

JOHN 14:25-26 25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.


What will the Holy Spirit do for the disciples?
"Teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you" (John 14:26).

What does that mean for the books of the Bible that they wrote down?
The real author is the Holy Spirit, who used them as His writing instruments.

What will the Holy Spirit do for Christians today?
The same: "Teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

Where are the things that He said to us?
In the Bible.

But shouldn't Christians who really want to know God attend seminary?
It can help but often hinders today, as a degree (see Peter and John) is being confused with the "gift" of "teaching ... given to us" by God: "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching" (Romans 12:6-7). To be taught "all things" (John 14:6) that Jesus wants you to know, there are only two imperatives: (1) Bible, (2) Holy Spirit. And people who hold degrees but who have not been gifted by the Holy Spirit to teach should "not" teach: "My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment" (James 3:1).




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Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[LawofLove]

So regarding Mat 15 and what Jesus fulfilled.

This is the prophecies about what Jesus would do with His law

“The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.” — Isaiah 42:21 (KJV)

Which we see in fulfillment in Mat 5 magnify means make greater not end or do away with.

““Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” — Matthew 5:17 (NKJV)

How people come to the conclusion the opposite of what Jesus said I will never understand. If that was not clear this next verse cannot be made more plain.

Mat5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

And according to the next verse Mat5:20 least in heaven means one is not there.

Some people claim these verses delete the OT commandments of God but Jesus plainly taught the opposite.

Jesus never came to destroy the law or prophets but to fulfill. It was prophesized that Jesus would magnify His laws Isa 42:21 which means make greater, not smaller. Just like Jesus never came to end the prophecies of His Second Coming , yet to be fulfilled, just like He did not come to destroy the law, so fulfill cannot be the same thing to end. It means like fulfilling a wedding covenant- would you consider doing so free one to commit adultery? Jesus does not want us to commit adultery to Him, which we do when we break the first 4 commandments Exo 20:1-11 how to love God. Jesus wants us to love our neighbor which is fulfilled by keeping the last 6 of the commandments Rom 13:9

Why Jesus said

Mat 5: 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

Heaven and earth are still here, judgement has not happened so is the law of God, the basis of God's Judgement. James2:10-12 Ecc12:13-14 Mat5:19-30 Rev11:18-19

So in this passage Jesus fulfilled/magnified what He promised to do by relating anger with the commandment to thou shalt not murder quoting OT and lust with the commandment to thou shalt not commit adultery teaching plainly not to break or teach others to break the least of these commandments. This idea that Jesus did away with His righteousness Psa119:172 Isa56:1-2, is a very sad deceptive teaching. He wants the law of God internally, why He wrote it in our hearts where sin begins, if our heart is changed our actions would reflect this and God's commandments would be kept exactly how He gave them and promised not to alter Psa89:34 Mat5:18-19

Mat 5:21 “You have heard that it was said to those [d]of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother [e]without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’[f] shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, [g]‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of [h]hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny
27 “You have heard that it was said [i]to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to [j]sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to [k]sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Have a blessed day all!

 

[LawofLove]

Wednesday, 5-20-26 4th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Sivan 2, 5786 62nd. Day Of Spring

KEEP MY WORDS - "If Anyone Love Me, He Will Keep My Word"

Keep My Words - Here is the context and the meaning of Jesus' words in John 14:23-24, 'If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word... He who does not love Me does not keep My words, ...

www.bibleversestudy.com

Keep My Words​

John 14:23-26 Keep My Words​

John 14:27-31 (A) Peace I Leave With You


JOHN 14:23-24 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father who sent Me.

So, what does Jesus do with Judas' question in John 14:22: “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world”?
He expands it to cover all of His followers and replies, "My Father will love ... and We will come to ... and make Our home with him" who "will keep My word" (John 14:23).

How serious is Jesus that His followers "keep My word" (John 14:23) and "commandments" (John 14:21)?
Serious enough to repeat it for emphasis in the negative: "He who does not love Me does not keep My words" (John 4:24).

Is keeping His words and commandment what enables our salvation?
No, it’s the evidence of our love for Him and of our salvation, which is a free gift from Him.

Why must we study the Bible?
Without studying it, we won’t know what Jesus said or commanded, which means we can't evidence our love for Him as He wants us to. In addition, we leave ourselves open to distortions and lies that Satan' false prophets peddle as Jesus' words and commandments.

JOHN 14:25-26 25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.


What will the Holy Spirit do for the disciples?
"Teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you" (John 14:26).

What does that mean for the books of the Bible that they wrote down?
The real author is the Holy Spirit, who used them as His writing instruments.

What will the Holy Spirit do for Christians today?
The same: "Teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you."

Where are the things that He said to us?
In the Bible.

But shouldn't Christians who really want to know God attend seminary?
It can help but often hinders today, as a degree (see Peter and John) is being confused with the "gift" of "teaching ... given to us" by God: "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching" (Romans 12:6-7). To be taught "all things" (John 14:6) that Jesus wants you to know, there are only two imperatives: (1) Bible, (2) Holy Spirit. And people who hold degrees but who have not been gifted by the Holy Spirit to teach should "not" teach: "My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment" (James 3:1).




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Love, Walter and Debbie

Good post!

Jesus used interchangeably the commandments of God with the Word of God

Mat 15:3 And He answered and said to them, “Why do you yourselves also break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ From the Ten Commandments
Mat 15:6 he is not to honor his father or mother.’ And by this you have invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition.


Mat 7:13 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

Which commandment?
‘Honor your father and your mother’ (from the Ten Exo20:12 Deut4:13)

13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying…”

These “words” are the Ten Commandments.

The commandments of God Jesus used interchangeably with the Word of God. Wow, can you imagine making the word of God of no effect though traditions of man. That's pretty serious in my mind. Jesus said it was
"in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men". The apostles spoke of this as well Col2:8

“These words the LORD spoke… and He added no more.
And He wrote them on two tablets of stone." Deut5:22

The Ten Commandments are explicitly called “the words” God spoke, and nothing else was added.


The Hebrew phrase is עֲשֶׂרֶת הַדְּבָרִים — Aseret haDvarim
Meaning: The Ten Words.

The Ten Commandments is the Ten Words of God.

Can the Testimony of God be edited by anyone?

Mat 25:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Why again used interchangeably with the Ten Commandments, the Law of God.

Mat5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Luke 16:17 It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than for one tittle of the law to fail.

Because...

Psa 119:89 Forever, O LORD, Your word is settled in heaven. Right where His ark and Testimony is Rev 11:19 Rev15:5 and includes the 4th commandment unedited as we see it continuing for eternity Isa66:22-23


Why again His word is used interchangeable with His Law in Judgement

John 12:48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken (His Testimony Exo31:18) will judge him in the last day.

James 2:11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty (Ten Commandments- the He who said in Exo20:1-17- Gods Testimony Exo31:18)


Once God tells us what things mean, they stay the same throughout the Bible, because there is no one above God. The entire Bible is about the testimony of God John5:39 through His prophets and disciples. Who has the greatest Testimony of all- God's Exo31:18 why it sits under His mercy seat unedited because He is God and we are called to join ourselves to Him and be His servant Isa56:6

The Ten Commandments cannot be edited- God promised He would not alter His words Psa89:34 Deut4:13 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19 because no church, no person is above God. Sadly His Law was edited just as predicted that most follow Dan7:25 but we are living in the last days and God is calling us back Rev18:4 to worship our Creator Rev14:7 Exo20:11 and worship Jesus relates to obedience. Staying faithful/obedient to God through love and faith is how we remain in Him John15:10 Rev14:12 and reconcile Rev22:14

PS: I found an interesting connection to the Fear of the LORD which is what we should have over fear of men which Jesus related to keeping man-made traditions over the commandments of God. I will try to share later. I need to run for now.

GOD BLESS ALL!

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Good post!

Jesus used interchangeably the commandments of God with the Word of God

Mat 15:3 And He answered and said to them, “Why do you yourselves also break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ From the Ten Commandments
Mat 15:6 he is not to honor his father or mother.’ And by this you have invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition.


Mat 7:13 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

Which commandment?
‘Honor your father and your mother’ (from the Ten Exo20:12 Deut4:13)

13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying…”

These “words” are the Ten Commandments.

The commandments of God Jesus used interchangeably with the Word of God. Wow, can you imagine making the word of God of no effect though traditions of man. That's pretty serious in my mind. Jesus said it was
"in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men". The apostles spoke of this as well Col2:8

“These words the LORD spoke… and He added no more.
And He wrote them on two tablets of stone." Deut5:22

The Ten Commandments are explicitly called “the words” God spoke, and nothing else was added.


The Hebrew phrase is עֲשֶׂרֶת הַדְּבָרִים — Aseret haDvarim
Meaning: The Ten Words.

The Ten Commandments is the Ten Words of God.

Can the Testimony of God be edited by anyone?

Mat 25:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

Why again used interchangeably with the Ten Commandments, the Law of God.

Mat5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Luke 16:17 It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than for one tittle of the law to fail.

Because...

Psa 119:89 Forever, O LORD, Your word is settled in heaven. Right where His ark and Testimony is Rev 11:19 Rev15:5 and includes the 4th commandment unedited as we see it continuing for eternity Isa66:22-23


Why again His word is used interchangeable with His Law in Judgement

John 12:48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken (His Testimony Exo31:18) will judge him in the last day.

James 2:11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty (Ten Commandments- the He who said in Exo20:1-17- Gods Testimony Exo31:18)


Once God tells us what things mean, they stay the same throughout the Bible, because there is no one above God. The entire Bible is about the testimony of God John5:39 through His prophets and disciples. Who has the greatest Testimony of all- God's Exo31:18 why it sits under His mercy seat unedited because He is God and we are called to join ourselves to Him and be His servant Isa56:6

The Ten Commandments cannot be edited- God promised He would not alter His words Psa89:34 Deut4:13 not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19 because no church, no person is above God. Sadly His Law was edited just as predicted that most follow Dan7:25 but we are living in the last days and God is calling us back Rev18:4 to worship our Creator Rev14:7 Exo20:11 and worship Jesus relates to obedience. Staying faithful/obedient to God through love and faith is how we remain in Him John15:10 Rev14:12 and reconcile Rev22:14

PS: I found an interesting connection to the Fear of the LORD which is what we should have over fear of men which Jesus related to keeping man-made traditions over the commandments of God. I will try to share later. I need to run for now.

GOD BLESS ALL!

Great Post, Brother. Thank you, Love always, Walter,

 

[ProDeo]

You're saying someone outside the Bible's words are more important than what God said plainly, in His own voice and wrote with His own finger, Exo20:18 that's under His own mercy seat Exo25:21 in His own heavenly Temple Rev11:19. But, the creation, man had to corrected God, because God was confused about which day He said is His holy day and we are to keep holy?

You do know where confusion comes from? Not God.

If only people would listen to Jesus who is God made flesh who said: mankind should live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, not someone claiming to be Christian who changed God's times and laws. Dan 7:25 You are free to believe as you wish, I am sticking with what God said so plainly.

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

Isa 58:13 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,
And shall honor Him, not doing your own ways,
Nor finding your own pleasure,
Nor speaking your own words,

Mark2:27 28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath

You can search the Scripture high and low and will not find one verse in the Bible where God took this back- He said I am the LORD your God and I do not change Mal3:6 hence Isa66:23

But He warned about anyone speaking for Him and adding and changing His words . Pro30:5-6 Ecc3:14 Deut4:2 Rev22:18 He also warned about getting our doctrine outside of Scripture

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there[a] is no light in them.

Quotes from Early Church Fathers: the Sabbath, Lord's Day, and Worship - Apostles Creed

Quotes from Early Church Fathers: the Sabbath, Lord's Day, and Worship — A Scripture-based study and explanation.

apostles-creed.org

Meaning, the church for 1900 years had it wrong ?

Realize what you are claiming.

 

[ProDeo]

first two were said .
BUT THE LORDS DAY was not speaking of sunday or saturday . THAT was speaking of THE DAY HE COMETH TO JUDGE .
Come now pro deo lets keep it t rue my friend .

Check the ECF link I provided.

Saturday nor sunday is NECESSARY OBSERVANCE DAY . they are but days of the week by which one may hold one day above another
and another may hold them all alike . SO LONG as THE LORD is being honored , THAT BE THE KEY .

Agreed.

Not the day of the week being honored , BUT THE LORD HISMELF , HIS teachings b eing observed .
OH and speaking of His teaching ,
WHY do i see folks joining hands and finding COMMON ground with darkness .
I aint at all concerned on what day one has church ,
I AM , however concerend with SIns and that which is of anti christ being allowed into said churches .
Ecumeincalism is deadly . The sooner you accept this the better off you will be.
IT can be a hard prick indeed my friend , but its time we flee ecuminecalism fast .

Agreed.

SDA, Mormonism and JW's are all relative new religions.