BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF CHRIST

[faithhopecharity]

When He trusted in teh death and resurrection of Jesus for His sins. I cannot give you a date or time.

or a scripture either!

when He died and was judged faithful to Christ!

Union with God and His angels & saints by Christ in grace and the Spirit!

Union with Christ by His grace & His merits & His power with life in the Spirit!
(we cannot do it alone of ourselves)


Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
(grace now not eternal salvation)

Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

grow in grace? (2 pet 3:18)

we do not have eternal salvation but grace, grace can be increased by good works or lost by sin!
2 pet 3:18 & gal 5:4 & 2 cor 4:7

Jn 15:5

apart from Christ?

NOTHING!

phil 4:13

Union with Christ?

ALL THINGS!

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

thks

 

[Jack]

Water baptism is not required for salvation.

 

[amigo de christo]

No it is not the heart of teh one world religion. Tell me are you under the command to not eat pork or scaleless fish? Or not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

Are you under the command to obey your husband? Get circumcised?

who on earth said anything about eating or not eating pork or fish .
I said the one world religoin that gathers all religoins and non religious alike
false religoins and the world IS INCLUSIVITY .
And that my friend IS a fact . It stings because i know you all have heard that word a lot in them churches
and dont want to believe this to be true . BUT WEEP and howl , IT IS TRUE .
THE ONLY RELIGION that e ver could unite false religoins and so called christains IS the all inclusive one .
That them sold out ecumeincal harlots sell to their churches every day and e very day it gets only worse .
I am LONG tired of watching JESUS get trod under foot for some anti christ peace
and fake love . THIS is a wakeup call for us all RIGHT NOW .
CHOOSE YE THIS Day WHO ye shall serve
whether it be the god who unites all , with false love and plans for world peace
OR JESUS THE CHRIST . buT IT Cannot be both .
AS FOR ME , ITS JESUS , ITS HIS GOSPEL and its THE BIBLE as my book .

 

[keithr]

Keith- this just again shows that you don't read my posts before you comment-
I will quote myself below from Post # 42

No, that's incorrect. Romans speaking of the Father is dia- (di). In Colossians it is "en" (en: in, on, at, by, with, among)

"For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth,.."- Col 1:16

di comes later in the sentence above-so- we we have both by and through.. and we have through pertaining to the Father as well. There are many prepositions and they interchange.

This is getting silly, so this will be my last comment on this! You've just quoted yourself as writing "No, that's incorrect", and focussing on a different word to what I was writing about. Quoting the whole verse - Colossians 1:16 MKJV:

(16) For all things were created in Him, the things in the heavens, and the things on the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers, all things were created through Him and for Him.​

In my post I was talking about the Greek word that is translated as 'through'. In both verses it is the Greek word dia. You were wrong to say that is incorrect.

You wrote in post #49, "I showed that we are both correct depending on which part of the verse you choose". Choosing to pick a different word from the verse to say that I was incorrect about the word I was referring to is just idiotic!

As you said, whatever! Let's move on - life's too short for this!

 

[faithhopecharity]

Water baptism is not required for salvation.

is this a dogma or decree of a council?

what does Jesus say?
mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved!

Jn 3:5 born of water and the spirit!

what does scripture say?

acts 2:38-41

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise (ez 36:25-27) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

acts 2:47 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

thks

 

[amigo de christo]

is this a dogma or decree of a council?

what does Jesus say?
mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved!

Jn 3:5 born of water and the spirit!

what does scripture say?

acts 2:38-41

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise (ez 36:25-27) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

acts 2:47 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

thks

and now for a dire warning .
save yourselves from this untoward ecumeincal generation . It has long followed another god
and one that can even USE the name of JESUS but promotes lies and fables .
BIBLE TIME . to the trenches one and all . The hour is quite late indeed .

 

[Marvelloustime]

and now for a dire warning .
save yourselves from this untoward ecumeincal generation . It has long followed another god
and one that can even USE the name of JESUS but promotes lies and fables .
BIBLE TIME . to the trenches one and all . The hour is quite late indeed .

@amigo de christo

 

[faithhopecharity]

and now for a dire warning .
save yourselves from this untoward ecumeincal generation . It has long followed another god
and one that can even USE the name of JESUS but promotes lies and fables .
BIBLE TIME . to the trenches one and all . The hour is quite late indeed .

these modernists even abuse the term "ecumenical"!

which means those in the house the household of faith!

amen!

 

[Jack]

is this a dogma or decree of a council?

what does Jesus say?
mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved!

Mk 16 But he that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

Not he that is not baptized!

Jn 3:5 born of water and the spirit!

what does scripture say?

acts 2:38-41

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

I hope you're not saying water washes away sins. ONLY the Blood of Jesus washes away sins!

39 For the promise (ez 36:25-27) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

acts 2:47 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

thks

I was baptized, but not to be saved, I was already saved.

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[faithhopecharity]

Mk 16 But he that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

Not he that is not baptized!

I hope you're not saying water washes away sins. ONLY the Blood of Jesus washes away sins!

I was baptized, but not to be saved, I was already saved.

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

muslims
hindus
pagan all have beliefs

the statement required to be believed is what the savior said: "he who believes and is baptized shall be saved"!

acts 2:38-41

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

acts 2:47
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Mk 16 But he that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

Not he that is not baptized!

I hope you're not saying water washes away sins. ONLY the Blood of Jesus washes away sins!

I was baptized, but not to be saved, I was already saved.

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

two requirements

faith and baptism

if you reject one why bother to mention the other?

Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Matt 28:19 faith & baptism
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptism
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 eph 4:30 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 4:5 one faith, one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!
Rev 1:5 washed in His blood
Faith and baptism are required Mk 16:16 eph 4:5

Faith alone even all faith avails NOTHING! 1 cor 13:2

Not called to “faith alone” Phil 1:29

 

[Jack]

muslims
hindus
pagan all have beliefs

the statement required to be believed is what the savior said: "he who believes and is baptized shall be saved"!

Which would have been the perfect time to say , 'he that is not baptized will be condemned'!

acts 2:38-41

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

acts 2:47
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

thks

Do you obey ALL of God's commandments? How about someone dying in the desert with no water to be baptized? He can't be saved? How about the thief on the cross? He was saved but not baptized!

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

 

[faithhopecharity]

1 John 5:8
And there are three that bear witnessin earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism

Hebrews 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washedwith pure water.

acts 22:16 wash away sin

the outward sign of water baptism is connected to the inward action of grace that cleanses our souls

Amen?

 

[faithhopecharity]

Mk 16 But he that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

Not he that is not baptized!

I hope you're not saying water washes away sins. ONLY the Blood of Jesus washes away sins!

I was baptized, but not to be saved, I was already saved.

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

you will be saved not you are saved and there is nothing more you need to do!

Union with God & His saints in Christ by the grace of justification by baptism with the infused supernatural virtues of faith, hope, & charity, sanctifying grace and the Holy Spirit.

Jn 3:16 Perpetual faith
mt 3:8 2 cor 7:10 fruits of repentance
Jn 15:4 abide in Christ & bear fruit
Lk 3:9 bear fruit
Lk 1:75 acts 10:35 deeds of righteousness
phil 1:11 fruits of righteousness
mt 26:41 watch and pray
mk 24:48 watch and pray
Lk 21:36 Watch and pray, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
mt 7:7 ask and you shall receive
Lk 9:23 phil 1:29 daily, deny thyself, take up thy cross and follow me.
mt 7:14 narrow road that leads to life
2 pet 3:18 grow in grace
mt 10:22 mk 13:13 mt 24:13 endure to the end in patient suffering
rev 2:10 he who overcomes I shall give the crown of life!



((endure to the end shall be saved))

mk 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

mt 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

mt 24:13
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

heb 3:6
But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

heb 3:14
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

thks

 

[Jack]

1 John 5:8
And there are three that bear witnessin earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism

Hebrews 10:22
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washedwith pure water.

acts 22:16 wash away sin

Acts 22:16
16 And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

the outward sign of water baptism is connected to the inward action of grace that cleanses our souls

Amen?

Are you really saying water washes away sins??? ONLY the Blood of Jesus!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

or a scripture either!

when He died and was judged faithful to Christ!

Union with God and His angels & saints by Christ in grace and the Spirit!

Union with Christ by His grace & His merits & His power with life in the Spirit!
(we cannot do it alone of ourselves)


Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
(grace now not eternal salvation)

Jn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

grow in grace? (2 pet 3:18)

we do not have eternal salvation but grace, grace can be increased by good works or lost by sin!
2 pet 3:18 & gal 5:4 & 2 cor 4:7

Jn 15:5

apart from Christ?

NOTHING!

phil 4:13

Union with Christ?

ALL THINGS!

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

thks

Grace cannot be earned! It is a free gift freely bestowed by God to His children.

And yes we do have eternal salavation. If we did not, then you would have to say Jesus did not die for all the sins of a believer.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

who on earth said anything about eating or not eating pork or fish .
I said the one world religoin that gathers all religoins and non religious alike
false religoins and the world IS INCLUSIVITY .
And that my friend IS a fact . It stings because i know you all have heard that word a lot in them churches
and dont want to believe this to be true . BUT WEEP and howl , IT IS TRUE .
THE ONLY RELIGION that e ver could unite false religoins and so called christains IS the all inclusive one .
That them sold out ecumeincal harlots sell to their churches every day and e very day it gets only worse .
I am LONG tired of watching JESUS get trod under foot for some anti christ peace
and fake love . THIS is a wakeup call for us all RIGHT NOW .
CHOOSE YE THIS Day WHO ye shall serve
whether it be the god who unites all , with false love and plans for world peace
OR JESUS THE CHRIST . buT IT Cannot be both .
AS FOR ME , ITS JESUS , ITS HIS GOSPEL and its THE BIBLE as my book .

Keep me out of your broad brush uninformed accusations. Inclusivity is not part of my church and never has been.

You are too condeemning in a generic sense. You should focus on the evil and not people who have called on teh name of
Christ. God will sort them out. Not you or me.

 

[amigo de christo]

Keep me out of your broad brush uninformed accusations. Inclusivity is not part of my church and never has been.

You are too condeemning in a generic sense. You should focus on the evil and not people who have called on teh name of
Christ. God will sort them out. Not you or me.

You said well when you said inclusivity is not part of my church .
SO
WHY do you and others RUN to a man I KNOW FULL WELL is part of this ecuemincal interfaith peace plan .
THAT IS THE INCLUSIVE RELIGOIN . Explain THAT .

 

[faithhopecharity]

Which would have been the perfect time to say , 'he that is not baptized will be condemned'!

Do you obey ALL of God's commandments? How about someone dying in the desert with no water to be baptized? He can't be saved? How about the thief on the cross? He was saved but not baptized!

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

if it's truly impossible, but you can't make a standard out of it!

if it becomes possible and you rejct it then what?

the new covenant not in effect till the death of Christ heb. 9:16-17

where does it say sin is washed away by faith alone?

 

[faithhopecharity]

Which would have been the perfect time to say , 'he that is not baptized will be condemned'!

Do you obey ALL of God's commandments? How about someone dying in the desert with no water to be baptized? He can't be saved? How about the thief on the cross? He was saved but not baptized!

Romans 10:9-10
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The Christian sacrament* of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation!

*this promise acts 2:38-39 is a sacred oath from God ez 36:25-27 and a sacred oath is a sacrament!

Initiation!!!


Faith & Baptism is the initiation of the new and eternal covenant!

You cannot enter on you’re own or by “faith alone”!

You cannot receive Christ or grace by “faith alone”!

“Accept Christ as you’re personal lord and savior” is fundamentalist tradition not found scripture!

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Baptismal regeneration a new creation in Christ! 2 Cor 5:17

A sacrament is an oath! A sacred promise from God! Ez 36:25-27
Acts 2:38-39 (this promise)

No baptism no grace!
No union with God and His saints thru Christ the mediator!

A sacrament is an outward sign for all men including infants And a gift from God to help us see what he does inwardly and invisibly by his grace!

As grace Washes our souls in the merits of Jesus blood from original and personal sin, so the outward action of washing is visible!

without the outward action the inward action cannot take place!

Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 water and washing
acts 22:16 wash away your sin!

Jn 3:5 Born again BY water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!

They did not go to Jerusalem and preach “accept Christ as you’re personal Lord and savior “

They went to the river (water) and they baptized! Jn 3:22

A covenant requires an outward sign of the inward action of grace!

Ez 36:25 I will sprinkle you with clean water and you shall be made white as snow.

Acts 22:16 washing away your sins.

Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 pet 3:21 baptism saves you.

You cannot enter on you’re own or by faith alone! Jn 3:5

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Heb 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,


Baptism!

God breathed life into Adam, gen 2:7 and we received this life from our fathers!

Christ breathed on the apostles our spiritual fathers, we receive the new covenant life of God’s grace from them thru faith & baptism! Jn 20:21-23 Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 eph 2

Born again! Born from above!

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." The faithful Christian who has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13 and cannot be repeated

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the church (ark of salvation) by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

Sealed in the ark, sealed in the church the (ark of salvation) by God thru baptism!


Christ instituted the holy church to teach and sanctify all men unto eternal salvation. (repent and believe the gospel) with the institution of the sacraments to convey grace to sanctify souls by baptism!
Matt 28:19