ScottA
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Surely life has such moments--which we should take as a warning of that greater wake up moment to come when we stand fully naked before God.
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
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According to Paul, the Gospel reached to the uttermost in his day in time.
Sometimes when you see "preached in all the world to all the nations" - that was according to what they knew.
Not what we know today.
You ever hear of the expression "My whole world is falling apart." This was the expression of those people and the tribes at the time along with the surrounding nations of that time.
Their whole earth and heaven came crashing down up them when the time for Jesus to gather his bride had come, and consumation of the Israel which had become known as Spiritual Egypt was taken out by fire, in the early Ads from like 70ad to - 140ad or something along those lines everything about Israel - the 12 tribes, sacrfices, and geneology (Their gene tree documents) where all destroyed and burned up and taken away along with the roads and the towns everything was uprooted and left utterly in desolation.
Though, people can make it out to be as though it is something for us today... But according to Paul somewhere in the bible he explains that the Gospel reached to the uttermost in his day in time meaning it had reached everywhere it needed to at that time.
America was never here - I as far as I know, which came way later on and us now here living today.
Just somet thoughts of my own doesnt make them right, doesn't make it wrong.
People just must choose for themselves.
Sometimes when you see "preached in all the world to all the nations" - that was according to what they knew.
Not what we know today.
You ever hear of the expression "My whole world is falling apart." This was the expression of those people and the tribes at the time along with the surrounding nations of that time.
Their whole earth and heaven came crashing down up them when the time for Jesus to gather his bride had come, and consumation of the Israel which had become known as Spiritual Egypt was taken out by fire, in the early Ads from like 70ad to - 140ad or something along those lines everything about Israel - the 12 tribes, sacrfices, and geneology (Their gene tree documents) where all destroyed and burned up and taken away along with the roads and the towns everything was uprooted and left utterly in desolation.
Though, people can make it out to be as though it is something for us today... But according to Paul somewhere in the bible he explains that the Gospel reached to the uttermost in his day in time meaning it had reached everywhere it needed to at that time.
America was never here - I as far as I know, which came way later on and us now here living today.
Just somet thoughts of my own doesnt make them right, doesn't make it wrong.
People just must choose for themselves.
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amigo de christo
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Oh dear i see a severe case of what i call harlot love .
Reader and all beware , for that dark love is like a pool of dark sticky mud .
Pull a man right into it and he be stuck ON and by HARLOT LOVE .
Open the bible and learn quickly my friends .
Reader and all beware , for that dark love is like a pool of dark sticky mud .
Pull a man right into it and he be stuck ON and by HARLOT LOVE .
Open the bible and learn quickly my friends .
NayborBear
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Genesis 6:3
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Ronald Nolette
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Ronald Nolette
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The gospel of the kingdom is not a call to repent. Look closely- it is preached as a witness to the world. It would be a fact with or without an invitation to get saved.
The Gospel of the Kingdom
What Jesus Proclaimed Before the Cross
Many Christians grow up assuming the Kingdom of God is heaven—a destination beyond this world where believers go after death. Yet the promises made to Abraham concerned a land, a people, and a throne. After the resurrection, the disciples still asked Jesus about the restoration of the Kingdom to Israel. Jesus taught that the meek would inherit the earth, not escape it.
The biblical picture is not humanity ascending to a heavenly realm but God's reign coming to earth. The Kingdom is not primarily about leaving creation behind. It is about creation being brought under the rule of God. This matters because it reshapes how we understand salvation, judgment, and the future. The Gospel of the Kingdom assumes a sovereign God whose purposes are never threatened or uncertain. What Jesus announced was not the possibility of God's reign, but its arrival.
One often-overlooked fact stands at the center of the Gospel accounts: Jesus preached the Gospel for years before His death and resurrection, and His disciples preached it with Him. Yet they did not understand that He would die and rise again. Luke 4:43 records Jesus saying that He was sent to preach the Kingdom of God. Luke 8:1 describes Him traveling through towns and villages proclaiming the Kingdom. In Luke 9:1–2 He sends the Twelve to do the same. Yet later Jesus tells them plainly about His coming death and resurrection:
Luke 18:31–34 ...they understood none of these things.
Even after the crucifixion: John 20:9 ...they did not understand that He must rise from the dead.
The Gospel was being proclaimed before the disciples understood the cross. This does not diminish the importance of the cross; it highlights that the Gospel itself is larger than many modern presentations assume. The message Jesus announced was the arrival of God's Kingdom.
What Is the Kingdom of God?
The Kingdom of God is not heaven, the church, or merely an inward spiritual experience. It is the reign of God breaking into the world and bringing all things under His authority. This theme runs throughout the Old Testament. God is King, but the prophets looked forward to a decisive historical manifestation of His rule.Daniel 2:44 declares:
The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed.
Daniel's vision portrays a kingdom that begins small, overcomes earthly empires, and eventually fills the whole earth. Isaiah expands this picture. Isaiah 9 speaks of a ruler whose government never ends. Isaiah 11 describes a world filled with the knowledge of God. Isaiah 65 portrays people building houses, planting vineyards, and enjoying the fruit of their labor. These are not images of escape from creation but of its restoration. When Jesus announced that the Kingdom of God was at hand, His hearers understood it against this prophetic backdrop. They heard the declaration that God's long-promised reign was beginning.
Metanoia: The Response the Kingdom Requires Jesus summarized His message in Mark 1:15: The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe the Gospel.
The word translated "repent" is the Greek metanoia. It literally refers to a change of mind—a transformation in how reality is understood.
Metanoia is more than remorse. It is a reorientation of one's entire way of thinking. It is what happens when a person abandons one vision of reality and embraces another.
This makes sense in light of the Kingdom. If God's reign is breaking into history, then old assumptions no longer hold. The belief that power belongs to empires, that injustice ultimately wins, that death has the final word, or that the present order is permanent—all of these assumptions are overturned. The arrival of the Kingdom demands an internal revolution that corresponds to the external reality of God's rule. For this reason, repentance cannot be reduced to a moment of guilt followed by forgiveness. Jesus is calling people into an entirely new way of life shaped by a new King.
Metanoia is not simply the entrance into Kingdom life; it is the continuing process of living within it. A person who truly believes that God's reign has arrived cannot continue operating according to the assumptions of the old world. Priorities, relationships, ambitions, use of wealth, and understanding of success all come under a different authority.
When repentance is reduced to a single emotional decision, discipleship becomes optional. But in Jesus's proclamation, repentance is the beginning of a lifelong transformation. The Kingdom is not merely something one believes. It is a reality to which one's entire life must be conformed.
That is the Gospel Jesus preached before the cross: the announcement that God's reign was arriving and the call to reorder life in response to it. The cross and resurrection would reveal how that Kingdom would ultimately triumph, but the message itself had already been proclaimed throughout Galilee: the Kingdom of God is at hand.
The Proclamation Before the Cross
Mark 1:14-15 Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying, 'The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.'
This is the earliest recorded summary of Jesus's preaching. It is a proclamation of arrival and urgency: something long-awaited has now arrived. The Kingdom of God — the reign of God, the new order of things under God's sovereign lordship — is at hand. The proper response is repentance and faith. This is the Gospel before Calvary. It has content, it has power, it demands a response.
Matthew 4:23 Jesus was going throughout all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the Kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness among the people.
Matthew 9:35 Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the Kingdom and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.
Matthew records this summary twice using almost identical language — a pattern that signals its importance. The Gospel of the Kingdom was not merely a backdrop for Jesus's ministry; it was its defining content. And it was accompanied by healing of every kind of disease and sickness — a tangible demonstration that the Kingdom had indeed arrived, that the reign of God was breaking through into the physical world. This is what the Gospel of the Kingdom looked like in practice: not merely the announcement of a future event, but the visible inbreaking of a new order of reality.
After the Resurrection: The Same Gospel, Amplified
Acts 1:3 To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the Kingdom of God.
For forty days, the risen Christ continued speaking about the Kingdom of God. The resurrection did not replace the Kingdom — it vindicated it. Jesus is the King, and His resurrection is the definitive announcement that His reign has been established. Even after the resurrection, the disciples still struggled with the timing of the Kingdom, after 40 days with the risen Lord. Acts 1:6 records them asking: 'Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the Kingdom to Israel?' The Kingdom was still the question in their minds, even after forty days of teaching from the risen Lord himself. Their category was right; their timeline and their picture of what it would look like were still being corrected.
The Apostolic Mission: The Kingdom Continues
In the book of Acts, we find the same continuity of Kingdom proclamation that in the preaching of the apostles marked Jesus's ministry, showing a consistent pattern of apostolic preaching.
Acts 19:8 And he entered the synagogue and continued speaking out boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading them about the Kingdom of God.
Acts 20:25 And now, behold, I know that all of you, among whom I went about preaching the Kingdom, will no longer see my face.
Acts 28:23 When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the Kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening.
The Gospel that began with Jesus proclaiming the Kingdom in Galilean synagogues ends with Paul proclaiming the same Kingdom in a Roman lodging house. The message has not changed; the full revelation of its meaning has changed. Paul now testifies about the Kingdom and tries to persuade them concerning Jesus — the two belong inseparably together.
What Was Added to the Gospel of the Kingdom
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the good news about the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were being baptized, men and women alike.
In Acts 8:12 we see the complete proclamation of both the good news about the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ. The Kingdom and the King belong together. The cross and resurrection did not create a different Gospel — they revealed the full meaning of the Kingdom Gospel that Jesus had been proclaiming all along. The King had to die and rise again. Acts 8:12 shows us the name of Jesus Christ is added to the Kingdom proclamation, not substituted for it.
The Gospel of the Kingdom is larger than the message of individual salvation. Jesus did not simply come to save souls from hell, but He came to announce and inaugurate the reign of God over all things — a reign that breaks into the present world in healing and deliverance and transformed lives, and that will be consummated at His return. Individual salvation is fully and gloriously included in this — but it is the personal dimension of the whole proclamation.
The rest will be in my up coming book....
Mark 1:14-15 Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying, 'The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.'
This is the earliest recorded summary of Jesus's preaching. It is a proclamation of arrival and urgency: something long-awaited has now arrived. The Kingdom of God — the reign of God, the new order of things under God's sovereign lordship — is at hand. The proper response is repentance and faith. This is the Gospel before Calvary. It has content, it has power, it demands a response.
Matthew 4:23 Jesus was going throughout all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the Kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness among the people.
Matthew 9:35 Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the Kingdom and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.
Matthew records this summary twice using almost identical language — a pattern that signals its importance. The Gospel of the Kingdom was not merely a backdrop for Jesus's ministry; it was its defining content. And it was accompanied by healing of every kind of disease and sickness — a tangible demonstration that the Kingdom had indeed arrived, that the reign of God was breaking through into the physical world. This is what the Gospel of the Kingdom looked like in practice: not merely the announcement of a future event, but the visible inbreaking of a new order of reality.
After the Resurrection: The Same Gospel, Amplified
Acts 1:3 To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the Kingdom of God.
For forty days, the risen Christ continued speaking about the Kingdom of God. The resurrection did not replace the Kingdom — it vindicated it. Jesus is the King, and His resurrection is the definitive announcement that His reign has been established. Even after the resurrection, the disciples still struggled with the timing of the Kingdom, after 40 days with the risen Lord. Acts 1:6 records them asking: 'Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the Kingdom to Israel?' The Kingdom was still the question in their minds, even after forty days of teaching from the risen Lord himself. Their category was right; their timeline and their picture of what it would look like were still being corrected.
The Apostolic Mission: The Kingdom Continues
In the book of Acts, we find the same continuity of Kingdom proclamation that in the preaching of the apostles marked Jesus's ministry, showing a consistent pattern of apostolic preaching.
Acts 19:8 And he entered the synagogue and continued speaking out boldly for three months, reasoning and persuading them about the Kingdom of God.
Acts 20:25 And now, behold, I know that all of you, among whom I went about preaching the Kingdom, will no longer see my face.
Acts 28:23 When they had set a day for Paul, they came to him at his lodging in large numbers; and he was explaining to them by solemnly testifying about the Kingdom of God and trying to persuade them concerning Jesus, from both the Law of Moses and from the Prophets, from morning until evening.
The Gospel that began with Jesus proclaiming the Kingdom in Galilean synagogues ends with Paul proclaiming the same Kingdom in a Roman lodging house. The message has not changed; the full revelation of its meaning has changed. Paul now testifies about the Kingdom and tries to persuade them concerning Jesus — the two belong inseparably together.
What Was Added to the Gospel of the Kingdom
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the good news about the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were being baptized, men and women alike.
In Acts 8:12 we see the complete proclamation of both the good news about the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ. The Kingdom and the King belong together. The cross and resurrection did not create a different Gospel — they revealed the full meaning of the Kingdom Gospel that Jesus had been proclaiming all along. The King had to die and rise again. Acts 8:12 shows us the name of Jesus Christ is added to the Kingdom proclamation, not substituted for it.
The Gospel of the Kingdom is larger than the message of individual salvation. Jesus did not simply come to save souls from hell, but He came to announce and inaugurate the reign of God over all things — a reign that breaks into the present world in healing and deliverance and transformed lives, and that will be consummated at His return. Individual salvation is fully and gloriously included in this — but it is the personal dimension of the whole proclamation.
The rest will be in my up coming book....
I believe that Jesus already returned, just as He promised to the generation He and His apostles preached to. Jesus said plainly, “This generation will not pass away until all these things take place” (Matthew 24:34), and the apostles affirmed the same expectation throughout their ministry.
We still emphasize the same essential truth today: a change of mind — metanoia — for individuals who do not believe, turning toward believing that God exists. Scripture teaches that “he who comes to God must believe that He is” (Hebrews 11:6). That call to believe remains the same.
I believe people are part of the Kingdom today through faith. Jesus said, “The Kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21), and Paul taught that God “has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of His beloved Son” (Colossians 1:13). The Kingdom is a present reality for those who trust in Him.
I also believe that all people are able to reach God, because His creation itself declares His glory. “The heavens declare the glory of God” (Psalm 19:1), and “His invisible attributes are clearly seen… so that they are without excuse” (Romans 1:20). God has never left Himself without a witness.
For this reason, I do not believe in preparing a church bride today for a future return of Jesus. I believe He came faithfully in the generation He spoke to — the very generation He warned, taught, and promised to return to. The apostles preached the same message: the Kingdom, the coming judgment, and His return to save them at the end of the age. Jesus Himself said, “The Son of Man is about to come in the glory of His Father” (Matthew 16:27–28), and the apostles echoed that urgency.
I’m sharing this simply to let any person reading knows where I stand.
We still emphasize the same essential truth today: a change of mind — metanoia — for individuals who do not believe, turning toward believing that God exists. Scripture teaches that “he who comes to God must believe that He is” (Hebrews 11:6). That call to believe remains the same.
I believe people are part of the Kingdom today through faith. Jesus said, “The Kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:21), and Paul taught that God “has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us into the Kingdom of His beloved Son” (Colossians 1:13). The Kingdom is a present reality for those who trust in Him.
I also believe that all people are able to reach God, because His creation itself declares His glory. “The heavens declare the glory of God” (Psalm 19:1), and “His invisible attributes are clearly seen… so that they are without excuse” (Romans 1:20). God has never left Himself without a witness.
For this reason, I do not believe in preparing a church bride today for a future return of Jesus. I believe He came faithfully in the generation He spoke to — the very generation He warned, taught, and promised to return to. The apostles preached the same message: the Kingdom, the coming judgment, and His return to save them at the end of the age. Jesus Himself said, “The Son of Man is about to come in the glory of His Father” (Matthew 16:27–28), and the apostles echoed that urgency.
I’m sharing this simply to let any person reading knows where I stand.
That simply cannot be the case. The visible, physical, literal return of Christ has been a foundational teaching of the Church since the beginning, for good reason:
Act 1:10 And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes,
Act 1:11 and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” (ESV)
1Co 15:20 But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
1Co 15:21 For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.
1Co 15:24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
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1Co 15:50 I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
1Co 15:51 Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54 When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”
1Co 15:55 “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?” (ESV)
1Th 3:11 Now may our God and Father himself, and our Lord Jesus, direct our way to you,
1Th 3:12 and may the Lord make you increase and abound in love for one another and for all, as we do for you,
1Th 3:13 so that he may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints. (ESV)
1Th 4:13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.
1Th 4:15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. (ESV)
1Jn 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not shrink from him in shame at his coming.
There are many other passages that could be cited, but clearly Paul and John didn't think Jesus had returned, so why do you think so? Were they wrong?
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Sorry, it had accidentally posted and I was editing it to add the scriptural references when you responded.
Act 1:3 To these He also presented Himself alive after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, appearing to them over a period of forty days and speaking of the things concerning the kingdom of God.
Yet after 40 days with Jesus... this was their reply..... Act 1:6 So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, "Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?"
Then Jesus said.... Later dudes!!!!
You stand corrected!
Don’t see how. If said he was gonna come back I trust that on faith and faith they were taken concerning the specific people at that time and age.
It fine if you believe he is coming back.
Love you just the same.
I just share what I’ve seen in the bible.
People can agree or not.
Thanks! I’m so glad to share a different perspective.
I’m not a Christian nationalist, or futurist person.
And hey you know what I could be wrong
It fine if you believe he is coming back.
Love you just the same.
I just share what I’ve seen in the bible.
People can agree or not.
Thanks! I’m so glad to share a different perspective.
I’m not a Christian nationalist, or futurist person.
And hey you know what I could be wrong
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Preterists have WILD imaginations and don't even see what's happening right under their noses!
1Co 15:24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
And where does he reign from? From the right hand of the Father. And where is the Lord God? In His heaven.
Christ will remain at the Father's side in heaven until the Day of His returning. And even then people will see Him at the Father's right hand, God comes from Heaven and makes a new dwelling place to live together with men, angels, God
Matthew 22:43-45
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
Acts 3, Peter specifically teaches Christ remains with the Father in Heaven, until the restoration of all things, Jesus also called that time to come the regeneration which is when God makes all things new.
17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,
20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began.
22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days. 25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”
Matthew 19, that future time to come is the regeneration when God and man live together on the new earth, not this earth and this heaven which will pass away, all things shall be changed!
27 Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have left all and followed You. Therefore what shall we have?”
28 So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother [a]or wife or children or [b]lands, for My name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life.
www.biblegateway.com
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea.
2 And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them; and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.”
5 And He that sat upon the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said unto me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
6 And He said unto me, “It is done! I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the Water of Life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
1Co 15:25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
And where does he reign from? From the right hand of the Father. And where is the Lord God? In His heaven.
Christ will remain at the Father's side in heaven until the Day of His returning. And even then people will see Him at the Father's right hand, God comes from Heaven and makes a new dwelling place to live together with men, angels, God
- Mark 14:62
And Jesus said, “I am; and ye shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.”
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations - Luke 22:69
Hereafter shall the Son of Man sit on the right hand of the power of God.”
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
Matthew 22:43-45
43 He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:
44 ‘The Lord said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’?
45 If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”
Acts 3, Peter specifically teaches Christ remains with the Father in Heaven, until the restoration of all things, Jesus also called that time to come the regeneration which is when God makes all things new.
17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,
20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began.
22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days. 25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”
Matthew 19, that future time to come is the regeneration when God and man live together on the new earth, not this earth and this heaven which will pass away, all things shall be changed!
27 Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have left all and followed You. Therefore what shall we have?”
28 So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother [a]or wife or children or [b]lands, for My name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life.
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 21 - 21st Century King James Version
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of Heaven...
2 And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them; and they shall be His people, and God Himself shall be with them and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.”
5 And He that sat upon the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said unto me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”
6 And He said unto me, “It is done! I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the Water of Life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
>>>>""It fine if you believe he is coming back.
Has this happened yet ?
1 Thess 4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
If not, then He is coming back :)
You’re sharing what you’ve seen, but that doesn’t mean you’ve understood it, particularly about what Jesus said. This is especially important when it seems you’re ignoring context by Paul and John who both didn’t think Jesus had yet returned. And John was writing his epistles around 90 A.D. or so.
Peter, I believe the promises of Christ were fulfilled faithfully, just as He said they would be. Jesus declared, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away” (Matthew 24:35). That is the foundation of my confidence—I take Him at His word.
I believe He was seen physically after His resurrection, exactly as Scripture records: “He presented Himself alive… being seen by them during forty days” (Acts 1:3). And I believe those He promised to gather were taken just as He said He would. Jesus assured His disciples, “I will come again and receive you to Myself” (John 14:3). My trust rests in His faithfulness to what He told them.
“Faithfully” is the key issue here. Scripture consistently presents God as One who keeps His promises: “The One who calls you is faithful, and He will do it” (1 Thessalonians 5:24).
I understand that the dating of certain New Testament writings is debated. But for me, the core conviction is simple: Jesus and His apostles were not liars. Paul wrote, “We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word” (2 Corinthians 4:2). Their integrity is part of the testimony.
This is why the timing matters. If Jesus did not receive the bride of Christ when He said He would, then the entire biblical narrative would be open to scrutiny. Yet Scripture presents His promise as certain: “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me” (Revelation 22:12).
I believe this gathering happened at the end of the age—the end of the Mosaic age, not the end of the physical world. Jesus said plainly that all these things would occur within the lifetime of His hearers:
“All these things will come upon this generation” (Matthew 23:36).
“This generation will not pass away until all these things take place” (Matthew 24:34).
The apostles understood they were living in that transition. Paul wrote that “the ends of the ages have come” upon them (1 Corinthians 10:11). Hebrews says Christ appeared “at the end of the age” to put away sin (Hebrews 9:26).
Jesus also foretold the complete destruction of the Temple—“Not one stone shall be left here upon another” (Matthew 24:2)—which occurred in AD 70, marking the definitive end of the old covenant system.
My conviction is straightforward: Jesus said these things would happen, and I believe He fulfilled them exactly as He promised.
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