The Date of the Lord delivering Israel.

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Yeah, this is probably seventy times already. It's enough.
Should be, yes, I agree.

That is not at all what I said--you are twisting it.
Well good; it seemed to be at least somewhat what you were saying... or the effect of what you were saying, anyway. If unintended, then good. But that's been part of the problem in this exchange, your... Well, I'm not going to say your "lack of communication skills," which is just silly, as many do on this board. But because of... some things apparent in your manner... a good bit of the things you have said have been very... well, at various times ambiguous (like here), and, um... how's a nice way to put this?... overly lofty, so much as to be, well, non-communicative, really. The prophets of old never did this...

Which, yes, is what Satan does.
He's a deceiver, yes.

Good final reveal on your part!
<eyeroll>

You have listed none that actually support your rebuttal, but just the opposite.
In your opinion, yes, and I'm not at all surprised by that.

I have engaged you these many times--for your sake, not mine...
Hmmm...

, and all you did was further reveal your error, your heart.
Right back atcha (again).

It's all written here.
It is, yes.

And how strange it is that you would think that one sent by God, only speaking what has been given to me--that your response would be accusation and name calling.
It seemed to be what you were saying, and I never called you any name.

It's as if you never believed that God ever worked this way...
Ah, now this is a bit picky, but important; rather than "worked this way," I would rather say "used these things." The former implies that He sins (at least from time to time), and the latter that He uses sin sinlessly. And you may actually mean the latter, in which case I would agree.

, and as if anyone sent by him would have nothing to say but what you want to hear...
Ah, now here you are more explicit in talking about the sending, actually saying it's by Him, so I would ask you about the nature of that sending, what He has supposedly sent you to do. And from what you've said, I think I know, and have alluded to before, and you didn't deny it, which is... a bit troubling...

, like that has been the way his servants have always come across. Just amazing. Oh, the irony!
<eyeroll>

Which makes your signing off with words of peace and grace why God spoke words like Isaiah 29:13.
Always meant in the way of Paul, Peter, and John throughout the New Testament. Always. I think you thinking that is just pride and indignation... and self-absorption. And anger, obviously. But yeah, none of which are good...

In truth, I am on assignment, one foretold and written of, sent by God my witness.
Ah. I see. As if I didn't long before now...

Grace and peace to you, Scott.
 

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Well good; it seemed to be at least somewhat what you were saying... or the effect of what you were saying, anyway. If unintended, then good. But that's been part of the problem in this exchange, your... Well, I'm not going to say your "lack of communication skills," which is just silly, as many do on this board. But because of... some things apparent in your manner... a good bit of the things you have said have been very... well, at various times ambiguous (like here), and, um... how's a nice way to put this?... overly lofty, so much as to be, well, non-communicative, really. The prophets of old never did this...
And you persist.

That--I mean "the prophets of old never did this''--is simply not true. They did "this" so much several were killed for it. Jonah for example, just blurted out what God told him to say. Yeah, what you are saying is simply not true, and the written record of scripture shows it.

It seemed to be what you were saying, and I never called you any name.
Your words have a name, and it's not good.

Ah, now this is a bit picky, but important; rather than "worked this way," I would rather say "used these things." The former implies that He sins (at least from time to time), and the latter that He uses sin sinlessly. And you may actually mean the latter, in which case I would agree.
Ah, now here you are more explicit in talking about the sending, actually saying it's by Him, so I would ask you about the nature of that sending, what He has supposedly sent you to do. And from what you've said, I think I know, and have alluded to before, and you didn't deny it, which is... a bit troubling...
Yeah, those to should never have been separated. --Why do you do that--why do you pick things out of context, criticize, then rejoin the two without actually making the connection as it was presented? Stop it! Instead of attacking my communication skills (which are not mine, but Him who sent me) you should really look at that comprehension log in your own eye.

But, yeah, right...the "worked this way" I was actually referring to is not what you "think" you "know."

Always meant in the way of Paul, Peter, and John throughout the New Testament. Always. I think you thinking that is just pride and indignation... and self-absorption. And anger, obviously. But yeah, none of which are good...
Ah. I see. As if I didn't long before now...
These two above quotes belong together also--because if you only knew what is true, that I am actually sent by God with witnesses such as you have named--Talk about "self absorption!"--You are in sooo much trouble!
 

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And you persist.
As do you.

Your words have a name, and it's not good.
<eye roll> Grace and peace to you, Scott.

...why do you pick things out of context...
I don't. Regarding what you say, I do sometimes make evident the hopefully unintended implications of what you do say.

Again, right back atcha.

Instead of attacking my communication skills...
I did not; and part of my point was that many on this board often do, which is silly, and just a way of tearing people down to build themselves up, really.

(which are not mine, but Him who sent me)
Ah, yes, there it is again... <smile>

you should really look at that comprehension log in your own eye.
Ah, so yes... see above. Very hypocritical of you...

But, yeah, right...the "worked this way" I was actually referring to is not what you "think" you "know."
Hmmmm, okay. <chuckles>

These two above quotes belong together also--because if you only knew what is true, that I am actually sent by God with witnesses such as you have named--Talk about "self absorption!"--You are in sooo much trouble!
<chuckles> Sure. Okay.

Grace and peace to you, Scott.
 

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As do you.


<eye roll> Grace and peace to you, Scott.


I don't. Regarding what you say, I do sometimes make evident the hopefully unintended implications of what you do say.


Again, right back atcha.


I did not; and part of my point was that many on this board often do, which is silly, and just a way of tearing people down to build themselves up, really.


Ah, yes, there it is again... <smile>


Ah, so yes... see above. Very hypocritical of you...


Hmmmm, okay. <chuckles>


<chuckles> Sure. Okay.

Grace and peace to you, Scott.
It is enough. So shall it be written and bound in heaven.
 

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Jay, are you predicting the return of Jesus to happen in 2045 ?

No, I am not predicting the return/second advent of Christ will happen in 2045 AD.

However, 2045 AD will be the start of God's beginning of drawing all of Israel to Himself and planting them in Israel's fertile soil set aside for them by God after the completion of the Ex 20:4-6 prophecy, as well as refreshing their foundation of their worship of God, i.e. the Three in one.
 

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No, I am not predicting the return/second advent of Christ will happen in 2045 AD.

However, 2045 AD will be the start of God's beginning of drawing all of Israel to Himself and planting them in Israel's fertile soil set aside for them by God after the completion of the Ex 20:4-6 prophecy, as well as refreshing their foundation of their worship of God, i.e. the Three in one.
Jay, you had written that in 2045 AD - "The Start of the 1,000 years of Satan, the beasts, the Little Horn and the Kings of the earth being imprisoned in the Bottomless pit"

Jay, the start of the 1,000 years of Satan being imprisoned in the Bottomless pit in Revelation 20:1-3 is the day that Jesus returns in Revelation 19.

Jesus's return and Satan being cast into the Bottomless pit takes place on the same day.
 
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I think we may agree that the Hebrews,Israelites,of ancient times Cosmology was different from what the 21st century Cosmology and geological record shows.

As far as I know,there is no proof a flood that covered the entire globe,Earth,has occurred.

While I think we have to consider the understanding of Cosmology by those ancient peoples. Who believed Earth was a disc,a flat Earth,floating upon the waters. With Heaven above and the underworld below.

13th century French art, God creating the Cosmos
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So,a flood over that whole disc was conceivable,when being told God sent a flood to cover the whole of the world.

 

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Jay, you had written that in 2045 AD - "The Start of the 1,000 years of Satan, the beasts, the Little Horn and the Kings of the earth being imprisoned in the Bottomless pit"

Jay, the start of the 1,000 years of Satan being imprisoned in the Bottomless pit in Revelation 20:1-3 is the day that Jesus returns in Revelation 19.

Jesus's return and Satan being cast into the Bottomless pit takes place on the same day.

Dougggg, if that is what you want the scriptures to say, that is fine with me.
 
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The object of the flood was to kill all the people except those on the ark (Genesis 6:7), and the flood was successful in doing that.​
The Bible says all the high mountains were covered. Fish fossils on mountain tops are evidence of this.​
Look at a world map. The coasts of North America, South America, Australia fit the corresponding coasts of Europe. The continents split, water was pushed all over the globe, and it settled back into the low spots.​
Search your internet "Pangaea"​
 
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Now as I was saying -

However, there will come a time when the Lord of glory will come to deliver Israel with His angelic army and that will be during Hanukkah. The actual date is the 29th of Kislev, the middle of Hanukkah, the festival of lights. How appropriate that the Light of the world should come then to deliver Israel from its enemies.
 

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Now as I was saying -

However, there will come a time when the Lord of glory will come to deliver Israel with His angelic army and that will be during Hanukkah. The actual date is the 29th of Kislev, the middle of Hanukkah, the festival of lights. How appropriate that the Light of the world should come then to deliver Israel from its enemies.
How will God identify Israel? What will His identification criteria be?
 
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As Israel is an earthly nation with an earthly purpose, Jesus will identify His brothers by ethnicity.
His brothers are not His brothers based on ethnicity.

Matthew 12:46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
 

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His brothers are not His brothers based on ethnicity.

Matthew 12:46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
But Jesus was pointing to JEWS.
 
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The actual date is the 29th of Kislev, the middle of Hanukkah, the festival of lights.
See Revelation 19:11-20:6 for the return of Jesus with his angels ("armies of heaven").

IMO this will be on the Day of Trumpets (Yom Kippur). See Isaiah 59:20, "the redeemer shall come to Zion."

Consider also the seven Jewish holidays, celebrating the Messiah:

o Passover (slain as a lamb) Isaiah 53:7
o Unleavened bread (sinless body in tomb) Isaiah 53:9
o First fruits (first fruits from the grave) Psalm 16:10
o Pentecost (sends the Spirit) Joel 2:28
o Trumpets (returns in judgment) Daniel 7:13
o Atonement (atones for Israel) Isaiah 59:20
o Booths (millennial reign) Psalm 72:11
 
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