Noahs flood NOT worldwide ???

[William Barton]

I err on the side of a global flood for the following reasons

Some wonder where all that water went. I don't think it went anywhere, rather it spread and formed the oceans we have today. About 71% of the earth is covered with water, and that's a lot of water.

 

[William Barton]

The Bible says, "All the fountains of the great deep broke forth" (Genesis 7:11).

IMO this was caused by a splitting action. The water swept the surface of the surface of the earth, and settled back into the low places.

 

[Davidpt]

Regardless whether it was global or regional, how should we assume the mass cleanup of human and animal remains were dealt with after the flood waters dried up on the planet following Noah's flood? And if only 8 people remained, how did they manage such a massive cleanup?

A planet-wide die-off of animals and humans would leave enormous amounts of biological material. In modern terms, that would create severe decomposition, water contamination, and disease risks on a scale that would be extremely difficult to manage even with industrial resources----let alone a small family of eight people operating in an early post-flood world.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Regardless whether it was global or regional, how should we assume the mass cleanup of human and animal remains were dealt with after the flood waters dried up on the planet following Noah's flood? And if only 8 people remained, how did they manage such a massive cleanup?

A planet-wide die-off of animals and humans would leave enormous amounts of biological material. In modern terms, that would create severe decomposition, water contamination, and disease risks on a scale that would be extremely difficult to manage even with industrial resources----let alone a small family of eight people operating in an early post-flood world.

Then what else in the Bible do you not believe ?

 

[William Barton]

Then what else in the Bible do you not believe ?

The purpose of the flood was to kill all the people, not to kill all the animals. Some domestic animals were on the ark as part of the provisions.

The ark came to rest on Mount Ararat in Turkey.

 

[PeterAndroz]

The purpose of the flood was to kill all the people, not to kill all the animals. Some domestic animals were on the ark as part of the provisions.

Except for sea creatures and flesh on the Ark.
Gen 7:
21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

 

[Davidpt]

Then what else in the Bible do you not believe ?

When did I say I did not believe what the Bible recorded about the flood? I'm just asking some logical questions that come to mind. My view is that the flood was global and wiped out everything on the planet except for 8 ppl and the animals on the ark. Is there then a law against me wondering how a mass cleanup followed that? There has to be a logical explanation. But if I seek one that means what else don't I believe in the Bible. Wow.

 

[PeterAndroz]

When did I say I did not believe what the Bible recorded about the flood? I'm just asking some logical questions that come to mind. My view is that the flood was global and wiped out everything on the planet except for 8 ppl and the animals on the ark. Is there then a law against me wondering how a mass cleanup followed that? There has to be a logical explanation. But if I seek one that means what else don't I believe in the Bible. Wow.

eg "How would a family of 8 deal with a massive clean-up, decompostion etc etc ""
Not a problem that GOD could not deal with.

 

[David in NJ]

Gen 7:
19 .. and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:
1..and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;
3..and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4..And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. << 5km high
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If the water PREVAILED at 15 cubits above the highest mountains for 6 months it would have had to overflow somewhere if it was just a local flood
Remember 15 cubits over the highest mountains = FAR FAR FAR FAR much more over lower mountains & low lying areas.
Mt Ararat is 5 km's above sea lea.
So where does a minimum 5km high flood water for 6 months overflow flow to ?
Sounds like a WORLDWIDE flood to me.
Thoughts ?

We do not know the actual height of the mountains during pre-flood times.

Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”
For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

There is a clear reference that the pre-flood world was different then it is today.

The pre-flood world was watered from the ground up = Genesis 2:4-6

This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made them.

Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted, for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
But springs welled up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground.

 

[David in NJ]

The purpose of the flood was to kill all the people, not to kill all the animals. Some domestic animals were on the ark as part of the provisions.

The ark came to rest on Mount Ararat in Turkey.

The animals had to be destroyed as well.

 

[David in NJ]

Noah's Global Flood, A Reality​

Back when a huge fossilized whale was found on a California mountaintop (1899)​

Fossilized whale found in Monterey County, California​

A fossil whale’s head, the remains of oysters and other things of the sea have just been unearthed in Monterey County, at a place 2300 feet above the sea level and eighteen miles inland from the present coastline.

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Published on February 19, 2026

These fossils found at the summit of the Himalayas offer unexpected clues about a time when the region was submerged under an ocean.

An astonishing discovery has been made atop the world’s highest peak. Fossils of marine life have been uncovered at over 8,000 meters above sea level on Mount Everest.

Marine fossils are found on mountain tops around the world.

 

[David in NJ]

I don't think we can equate ancient peoples cosmology as the same as what we know of our planet today.

When they spoke of a flood that covered the Earth,they would be speaking from their limited understanding.

As far as I know,there has been no geologic evidence of a global flood.

Early people thought Earth was a flat disc. Floating on water and with the firmament above it,and the underworld below.

You do know that there does not exist an actual authentic photograph of a globe earth - right?

SHALOM

 

[Gray_Joy]

You do know that there does not exist an actual authentic photograph of a globe earth - right?

SHALOM

I know that's not true.

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[William Barton]

Regardless whether it was global or regional, how should we assume the mass cleanup of human and animal remains were dealt with after the flood waters dried up on the planet following Noah's flood? And if only 8 people remained, how did they manage such a massive cleanup?

A planet-wide die-off of animals and humans would leave enormous amounts of biological material. In modern terms, that would create severe decomposition, water contamination, and disease risks on a scale that would be extremely difficult to manage even with industrial resources----let alone a small family of eight people operating in an early post-flood world.

Fish fossils on high mountains are evidence of a global flood.

We have floods today, they make a mess, people cope.

 

[David in NJ]

I know that's not true.

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Just a Refresher = 1 John 5:19 We know that we are children of God and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.

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[David in NJ]

I know that's not true.

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Learn about who is behind NASA

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SHALOM

 

[William Barton]

We do not know the actual height of the mountains during pre-flood times.

Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”
For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

There is a clear reference that the pre-flood world was different then it is today.

The pre-flood world was watered from the ground up = Genesis 2:4-6

This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made them.

Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted, for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
But springs welled up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground.

These same springs/lakes/oceans are still watering the ground today.

 

[William Barton]

IMO:
"God had not yet sent rain" (Genesis 2:5) refers to the hydrodynamic cycle.

The water that was created on the surface of the earth required time to evaporate up into the sky, coalesce into clouds, release onto the earth in the form of droplets, and then continue this cycle, as it is still doing today.

 

[David in NJ]

These same springs/lakes/oceans are still watering the ground today. Their water evaporates, forms clouds, and when the clouds get full they release droplets, and this "rain" waters the ground and refills the springs/lakes/oceans. How efficient!

During the Age/Time of The PRE_ Flood world, it did NOT rain upon the earth = Genesis 2:4-6

This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made them.

"Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted,
for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
But springs welled up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground."

 

[David in NJ]

I know that's not true.

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