Noahs flood NOT worldwide ???

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During the Age/Time of The PRE_ Flood world, it did NOT rain upon the earth = Genesis 2:4-6

This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made them.

"Now no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth, nor had any plant of the field sprouted,
for the LORD God had not yet sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
But springs welled up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground."
The springs began "welling" up to the surface of the ground. This allowed the water to evaporate up into the sky, and then sprinkle back down when the amount of water in the sky exceeded the capacity of the sky to absorb it. This cycle is still going on today.
 
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The springs began "welling" up onto surface of the ground. This allowed that water to evaporate up into the sky, which in turn sprinkled back down when it exceeded the capacity of the air to absorb it. This cycle is still going on today.
The PRE-Flood world was DESTROYED = along with the ECO-SYSTEM

A New Eco-System was established AFTER the FLOOD

It did not rain, as Yet, on the earth during the PRE-FLOOD Era = Genesis chapter 2

We do not know fully(100%) the actual System GOD Created at that time/Era.

GOD destroyed all, including ALL the animals because of the DNA/Genetic corruption performed by the fallen angels who came to earth.

This is why GOD only SAVED 8 souls along with the animals that entered the ARK

Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,
6by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
 
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eg "How would a family of 8 deal with a massive clean-up, decompostion etc etc ""
Not a problem that GOD could not deal with.

When natural disasters happen these days on a big scale, for example, the major floods in New Orleans and Houston in the past, how many times do you recall, not a problem that GOD could not deal with? Humans deal with cleaning those messes up not God, though. As a matter of fact, me being 68 years old right now, I don't recall one time in all those 68 years when it came to a disaster of some kind, not a problem that GOD could not deal with. And that I can't even think of one thing per the past 2000 years involving a disaster of some kind, not a problem that GOD could not deal with. It is obvious what you are meaning by that. Except I can't think of one real world example where that can be applied to.

Per Revelation 19 there will be bodies galore to have to deal with and clean up, but that chapter provides a solution, feasting birds. But during Noah's flood any feasting birds not on the ark would have drowned with everything else not on the ark if the flood was global. Well except for creatures that naturally live in bodies of water. But they couldn't help with cleanup could they?
 
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and the earth standing out of water and in the water,
6by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

and the earth standing out of water and in the water---what are you connecting that with? Genesis 1:2 or the flood in Noah's day?
 

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eg "How would a family of 8 deal with a massive clean-up, decompostion etc etc ""
Not a problem that GOD could not deal with.
As far as decomposition, the massive mud made fossils out of creatures, animals, etc.
The flood was on the earth for what 6 months?
Sharks, crabs, octopus, catfish eat all those dead beings.

No clean up at all for Noah.
 
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and the earth standing out of water and in the water---what are you connecting that with? Genesis 1:2 or the flood in Noah's day?
Foundations of the earth remained - the earth continues to "stand" "out of the water and in the water"

The Eco-system dramatically changed.

IMHO = i do not believe there were snow capped mountains in the PRE-Flood world

The PRE-Flood world must of been a Tropical Forest that GOD watered from springs and "a mist from the ground up"

Today, we have man-made underground sprinkler systems for lawn care and other

Compared to the Creator and His Creation, man's technology is "foolishness"/child's play = from God's Knowledge Persepective

The Foundations of the earth remain as does the Dome/Firmament = which the Rainbow demonstrates
 
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As far as decomposition, the massive mud made fossils out of creatures, animals, etc.
The flood was on the earth for what 6 months?
Sharks, crabs, octopus, catfish eat all those dead beings.

No clean up at all for Noah.
i think he meant 'inside the ARK' ?
 

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God's Word is ALWAYS TRUE = "We know that we are children of God and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one."

I think you posted the wrong response.
You were talking about a flat Earth.
 
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Today, we have man-made underground sprinkler systems for lawn care and other

We have the same "mist from the ground" (Genesis 2:6) today.

Water on the earth evaporates, rises into the sky, condenses, and falls back down. Great sprinkler system.
 
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We have the same "mist from the ground" (Genesis 2:6) today.

Water on the earth evaporates, rises into the sky, condenses, and falls back down. Great sprinkler system.
Did you read Genesis chapter 2???

It says that no rain had yet fallen in that world.
 

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Did you read Genesis chapter 2???

It says that no rain had yet fallen in that world.
This doesn't mean water did not appear on Earth.

Genesis 2
"A river flowed from Eden and watered the garden. The river then separated and became four smaller rivers"

Those are the Pishon, Gihon, Tigris, and Euphrates rivers.
 
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Did you read Genesis chapter 2???

It says that no rain had yet fallen in that world.
The water in the sky is water on the earth that has evaporated up into the sky. Great sprinkler system, since the water is reusable.

At the very beginning of the creation I presume there would be no rain until sufficient evaporation into the sky had occurred.
 
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The PRE-Flood world was DESTROYED = along with the ECO-SYSTEM

A New Eco-System was established AFTER the FLOOD

It did not rain, as Yet, on the earth during the PRE-FLOOD Era = Genesis chapter 2

We do not know fully(100%) the actual System GOD Created at that time/Era.

GOD destroyed all, including ALL the animals because of the DNA/Genetic corruption performed by the fallen angels who came to earth.

This is why GOD only SAVED 8 souls along with the animals that entered the ARK

Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,
6by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
My impression is that the earth itself was not destroyed, rather it broke up. The disturbance shifted water all over the globe and settled the water back into the low areas, in the process drowning all but eight people.

Search the internet "Pangaea" ("all earth").
 
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My impression is that the earth itself was not destroyed, rather it broke up. The disturbance shifted water all over the globe and settled the water back into the low areas, in the process drowning all but eight people.

Search the internet "Pangaea" ("all earth").
100% AGREE

Yet there was MORE disturbance via the Flood that destroyed the Eco-System of that world/age.

When the scripture Says: "the world that then was, was destoyed" it is not speaking about the earth being destoyed

The term "world that then was" is referring to a far different Eco-System then what has been since after the Flood