Should Nations Help the Sick and Poor?

[Ziggy]

What country do you live in? You didn't answer that question before.

I live in the Untied States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.

 

[bdavidc]

I have long agreed that both individuals and nations collectively should help the poor, which is what the Bible says. The problem is, there are insidious lies in conservative churches teaching their congregations that only individuals and not nations should help the poor. This is totally non-biblical and a lie.

The U.S. has consistently contributed less than she used to do to help the sick, poor and needy. Trump's defunding of foreign aid has already cost the lives of over 750,000 people and is projected to cost the lives of over 9 million. Trump has defunded cancer research, mass pollution monitoring and related disease research, fired many top disease experts and has gutted Medicaid and defunded food programs for the poor in the U.S. Just this week, Trump stated he wants to get rid of social security and Medicare because he needs the money to fight wars.

Such actions by Trump are anti-Christ; against God Almighty.

In case you are unaware, whether or not global warming is true or false as Trump pretends without evidence, pollution is the number one killer on earth and extremely bad for human health; especially for our children.

You call certain policy changes under Trump anti-Christ and claim they have already cost hundreds of thousands of lives with millions more to come. Those are heavy accusations. The term “antichrist” in 1 John is reserved for those who deny that Jesus is the Christ and who oppose the Father and the Son. Disagreement over foreign aid levels, research funding, or entitlement reform does not meet that definition. Using the word that way turns a serious biblical warning into political rhetoric. It does not help anyone think clearly.

The bigger issue is not whether one administration cut this program or that one. The bigger issue is what the two major parties actually stand for when measured against God’s Word. One party has made the killing of unborn children a central plank. It celebrates the redefinition of marriage and gender against the plain statement that God made them male and female from the beginning. It puts biological males into women’s sports and private spaces and calls the resulting unfairness and confusion “equality.” It promotes sexual perversion to children and treats repentance as the real problem rather than sin itself. That is not a side issue. That is open defiance of Exodus 20:13, Genesis 1:27, Romans 1:26-27, and the repeated calls to repent or perish.

During President Trump’s State of the Union address this year, he asked members of Congress to stand if they believed the government’s first duty is to protect American citizens rather than illegal aliens. Almost every Democrat stayed seated. Republicans stood. The image was clear and it spread everywhere. It showed a party whose leaders would not even publicly affirm that the safety of the people they are supposed to serve comes first. Scripture says a man who will not provide for his own household has denied the faith. A nation that will not put its own citizens first is operating on the same disordered principle.

The names that get thrown at those who hold to biblical truth, fascist, racist, bigot, homophobic, transphobic, anti-woman, and the rest, are not arguments. They are weapons meant to make people afraid to say what the text actually says. They do not change the fact that God’s standards on life, marriage, and sexual conduct have not moved.

On wealth and success, people who build companies, create jobs, and generate real value through innovation are not the problem. The Bible never condemns wealth earned honestly. It condemns the love of money and commands those who have it to be generous and ready to share. Innovation and productive work have lifted more people out of poverty than any government transfer program in history. Envy dressed up as concern for the poor is still envy.

The real question is not whether Trump cut enough or too much from this or that line item. The real question is whether we are willing to test every political claim, every label, and every accusation against the whole of Scripture instead of against our preferred news sources or political tribe. Have you actually examined what God’s Word says about the limits of civil government, the protection of life from the womb, the fixed reality of male and female, the call to personal responsibility and generous giving, and the difference between true charity and state coercion? That is the examination that matters.

 

[Gray_Joy]

About that YouTube video producer.

Aliunde is known for its ultra-left-wing content, focusing on socialist and anti-capitalist themes, often critiquing mainstream political narratives. The channel is part of a broader movement on YouTube that seeks to counteract right-wing ideologies.

Overview of Aliunde​

Aliunde is recognized for its ultra-left-wing content, which emphasizes socialist and anti-capitalist themes. The channel actively critiques mainstream political narratives, positioning itself as part of a broader movement on YouTube aimed at countering right-wing ideologies.

Content Focus​

Key Themes​

• Socialism: Advocates for socialist principles and critiques capitalism.
• Anti-Capitalism: Challenges capitalist narratives and structures.
• Political Critique: Engages with and critiques mainstream political discourse.

Context in YouTube Landscape​

Positioning Against Right-Wing Ideologies​

Aliunde is part of a growing cohort of left-wing channels that seek to provide alternative viewpoints to the prevalent right-wing content on platforms like YouTube. This movement, often referred to as "BreadTube" or "LeftTube," includes various creators who address political issues, cultural commentary, and social justice topics.

Comparison with Other Channels​

Channel Name	Political Orientation	Key Focus Areas
Aliunde	Ultra-Left	Socialism, Anti-Capitalism, Political Critique
ContraPoints	Left	Cultural Commentary, Philosophy, Social Issues
omberguy	Left	Political Commentary, Media Critique

Aliunde's approach is characterized by its commitment to leftist principles, making it a significant player in the ongoing discourse surrounding political ideologies on YouTube.
inthesetimes.com intpolicydigest.org

 

[Gray_Joy]

I live in the Untied States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands, One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.

Then you should have known, we are not a Democracy. In a pure Democracy crazy,majority rules.

Which is why America is a Constitutional Democratic Republic.

Our Constitution limits governments power.

 

[Ziggy]

Then you should have known, we are not a Democracy. In a pure Democracy crazy,majority rules.

Which is why America is a Constitutional Democratic Republic.

Our Constitution limits governments power.

There is no democracy in the Constitution. none 0 zip nil.

 

[Ziggy]

Then you should have known, we are not a Democracy. In a pure Democracy crazy,majority rules.

They are trying though, but they won't succeed.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Show me that in the Constitution of the United States

The United States is a constitutional democratic republic because it combines three distinct political elements: power comes from the people via elections. Democratic elections.

Our laws are made by chosen representatives,which makes for it being a Republic.

The entire system is limited by the supreme law of the land,which is our United States Constitution.
Take a look at the so called Supremacy Clause of the USC.
⁠Article VI, Clause 2

 

[Gray_Joy]

There is no democracy in the Constitution. none 0 zip nil.

That's true.
It's actually instead noted by its identity as that of the Republic.
Article IV, Section 4 , also known as The Guarantee Clause.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..."

 

[Ziggy]

 

[Ziggy]

About that YouTube video producer.

Aliunde is known for its ultra-left-wing content, focusing on socialist and anti-capitalist themes, often critiquing mainstream political narratives. The channel is part of a broader movement on YouTube that seeks to counteract right-wing ideologies.

Overview of Aliunde​

Aliunde is recognized for its ultra-left-wing content, which emphasizes socialist and anti-capitalist themes. The channel actively critiques mainstream political narratives, positioning itself as part of a broader movement on YouTube aimed at countering right-wing ideologies.

Content Focus​

Key Themes​

• Socialism: Advocates for socialist principles and critiques capitalism.
• Anti-Capitalism: Challenges capitalist narratives and structures.
• Political Critique: Engages with and critiques mainstream political discourse.

Context in YouTube Landscape​

Positioning Against Right-Wing Ideologies​

Aliunde is part of a growing cohort of left-wing channels that seek to provide alternative viewpoints to the prevalent right-wing content on platforms like YouTube. This movement, often referred to as "BreadTube" or "LeftTube," includes various creators who address political issues, cultural commentary, and social justice topics.

Comparison with Other Channels​

Channel Name	Political Orientation	Key Focus Areas
Aliunde	Ultra-Left	Socialism, Anti-Capitalism, Political Critique
ContraPoints	Left	Cultural Commentary, Philosophy, Social Issues
omberguy	Left	Political Commentary, Media Critique

Aliunde's approach is characterized by its commitment to leftist principles, making it a significant player in the ongoing discourse surrounding political ideologies on YouTube.
inthesetimes.com intpolicydigest.org

Do you want to fix that or should I?

Hugs

 

[Gray_Joy]

Do you want to fix that or should I?

Hugs

There's nothing to fix. Unless ultra leftist propaganda is what you prefer to promote here.

You should have researched the producer of your video before you offered it for consideration by members here.

 

[Ziggy]

There's nothing to fix. Unless ultra leftist propaganda is what you prefer to promote here.

You should have researched the producer of your video before you offered it for consideration by members here.

Did you research the links making the claim?

Anywho,
I think Dr, Ben Carson puts it best.

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

inthesetimes.com intpolicydigest.org

Check them out.

 

[Gray_Joy]

Did you research the links making the claim?

Ironic.

Anywho,
I think Dr, Ben Carson puts it best.

Hugs

Another video opinion. Do you have your own independent education and intellect? Or,do you solely rely on You Tube videos to lead your way of thinking?

The Aliunde video was your offering. And after you presumably watched it,you still don't know the government form active in the USA.

 

[Ziggy]

Good luck in California
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

I Know the Constitution of the United States of America
And I know there is a battle going on as to who is going to control it.
And Democracy is Dead.

 

[Gray_Joy]

I Know the Constitution of the United States of America

I saw no evidence of this.

And I know there is a battle going on as to who is going to control it.
And Democracy is Dead.

We were discussing the form of governance in America on record.

Truth be told, in my observations of the system, the model promotion of elected representatives by we the electorate has been non-existent for generations.

Which is why I no longer will cast a vote after the 2024 "election".

Repeating the same behavior expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

 

[Ziggy]

You don't think the elections are rigged do you?

 

[Gray_Joy]

You don't think the elections are rigged do you?

I do.
They've been rigged for generations.
Likely not in 1619. But, possibly shortly after installation of the Federal in the late 1780's.

But,in my opinion, the corruption began in earnest in the late 1800's when lobbyists,who had almost always been there from the start of the process, became financial influential forces among our politicians.

So,I'd say it is possible lobbyist corruption pre-existed that period in our Legislative branch,but for sure at about 1870 on. And it doesn't stop,the corruption,there. All branches are infected in my view.
So yes,our elections are corrupt. IMO.


"I regard it as completely unimportant who in the party will vote and how, but it is extremely important who will vote-count and how." Joseph Stalin 1923