Christian Nationalism

[Wrangler]

 

[Bombastic]

Amen. This is the very reason the majority of Jews rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah. He didn't come as a king conquering their enemies. He came in humility, a servant, doing good, and then died on the cross.

In other words, not all prophecies about the Messiah were fulfilled. Post-Christendom, too, struggled, but momentum increased after the gospels were circulated and certain events occurred.
Keep in mind, the faithful remnant of the OT had a forward-looking faith, while NT saints have a historical faith.
That is apart from the eschatological second coming or complete fulfillment of those OT prophecies.
While it is true that Jews rejected Jesus, it is also true that Jesus was a Jew; his followers, disciples, apostles, and most of the early church were Jews. All the books but one were penned by Jews, the Evangelist and historian Luke being the NT exception that was not taught directly by Jesus (Luke serves as the cutoff for later texts that began to surface). Today there are Messianic Jews. And perhaps it is needless to say whether Jesus was believed or not; it is said Jesus had a major impact upon Judaism, his religion. Undoubtedly, some of the Jews wanted Barabbas @TLHKAJ, not disagreeing with you.
Also, remember in Jeremiah some were said to believe the name was G-d, the L-rd, and some called Him their Teacher and some their Father (Jeremiah 3:1). Gentiles are grafted into the same covenant tree, the Davidic covenant, an everlasting covenant that expands the OT and NT covenantal divide (one tree). Time and time again throughout the OT the everlasting covenant was mentioned that was for the audience at the time, not only for their children and those far off (Peter's address to the House of Israel, Acts)
I reject replacement theology (also called supersessionism or fulfillment theology), a Christian doctrine asserting that the Church has superseded, or replaced, ethnic Israel as G-d's chosen people. It claims that because the Jewish nation rejected Jesus as the Messiah, G-d transferred the covenant promises and blessings to the universal Christian Church.

 

[Wrangler]

 

[TLHKAJ]

Today there are Messianic Jews. And perhaps it is needless to say whether Jesus was believed or not; it is said Jesus had a major impact upon Judaism, his religion. Undoubtedly, some of the Jews wanted Barabbas @TLHKAJ, not disagreeing with you.

I fully agree. I'm not anti-Jew, or antisemitic. And yet, not everyone who says they're a Jew is a Jew.

 

[Ziggy]

I do have a serious question though,
There are 12 tribes of Israel. One of those tribes is the tribe of Judah.
Is it Judah where the word Jew comes from?
And what of the other 11 tribes?

Is the Israel today , the State that is, made up of all the tribes or just some?
And which ones?

Who are the Jews?

Hugs

 

[Bombastic]

I fully agree. I'm not anti-Jew, or antisemitic. And yet, not everyone who says they're a Jew is a Jew.

It is an interesting thing, any animosity between Jews and Christians.
Martin Luther: When Jewish people overwhelmingly rejected his calls to convert, Luther's attitude turned bitterly hostile. In 1543, he published On the Jews and Their Lies. In this 65,000-word manifesto, he advocated for severe persecution, calling for the following: Setting fire to synagogues and schools. Forbidding rabbis from teaching under threat of death. Razing Jewish homes and confiscating property. Forcing Jewish people into manual labor or expelling them.

I often wonder what Jews think about Gentile handling of their sacred text. From a modern perspective, liberal theology is infiltrating the churches, and we only need to observe how other Christians handle liberals, feminists, egalitarians, etc. regarding their sacred text.

Enjoy @TLHKAJ