Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

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The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

IOW, and in the middle of this literal 7 day period, and if Sunday is the first day of the week, and Saturday is the last day of the week, it is then on a Wednesday, thus the middle of a literal 7 day week, he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

Then somehow, even though there are only 3.5 literal days remaining of this literal week, the 3.5 year, thus not the 3.5 days, tribulation starts at this time.

Summary:

The 70th week consists of 7 literal days, thus consist of Sunday through Saturday. And that on Wednesday, thus the middle of this literal week, he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth. And that the 3.5 year tribulation begins and by Saturday of this same literal week, this 3.5 year tribulation ends, therefore, defying logic and common sense altogether, that 3.5 years can somehow fit within 3.5 literal days.

Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and take a math refresher course. You clearly don't understand basic math. Math, Algebra actually, was what I got my best grades in when I was in high school. But don't ask me any Algebra questions. That was over 50 years ago when I was in high school.. You are obviously taking the 3.5 years literally, the fact you are taking the 70 weeks literally, that it is involving 70 literal weeks rather than 70 weeks of years. Then you are playing gymnastics with basic math by insisting that 3.5 years can be fulfilled within 3.5 literal days.

I sometimes use the example of, one person argues that 2 + 2 = 4, and that another person argues that it equals 5. Yet I never meant it literally as if there is actually someone intelligent out there that thinks it does equal 5. Now I'm beginning to wonder? Maybe there is someone out there that thinks it = 5 or maybe 6, etc. Anything but 4.
 
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The Jewish people were a unique group and were the sole recipients of the Mosaic Law. In a sense they were very much different than all other humanity. God dealt with them differently. This is one aspect of the elect group.

But nobody had a better chance to be saved, than the whole population. Salvation is one principle that is equal to all humanity. The Jewish nation was no more likely to be saved than any person in the Old Testament.

The Old Covenant nation of Israel had a unique, elect purpose in the plan of God to save His people, because through that nation the promised Messiah would come. Once Christ came to earth a man that unique choosing of them was no longer for only them, but for All people of faith. Once Christ came, He provided Himself the Lamb that through Him whosoever would believe whether Jew or Gentile would be eternally saved. There is no longer a distinction between Jew & Gentile! In this, "the day of the Lord" the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is being proclaimed unto all people, now Jew & Gentile alike can hear the Gospel, believe on Christ and be eternally saved. Those who have been born again from every nation, tribe, kindred and tongue when the seventh/last trumpet sounds that Christ has come again shall ALL be saved!
 

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The 490 days are "FUTURE" and the first day will "START" when the "FUTURE" command is given to build the wall and street in Jerusalem

You have been clearly answered, a "Future" 490 days will take place, my explanation is clear and concise on my belief

Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained "Future"?

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the future armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. Luke 21:24, Rev 11:2

The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
"27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

You got it wrong.
Actually, The 7byr trib ( week) and the AC desecrates the temple mid way.

That is what is actually going on.
You are starting your end times study from a terrible starting place.
Point to a link and group that believes what you are presenting.
Seems like you made it up.
 

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The 490 days are "FUTURE" and the first day will "START" when the "FUTURE" command is given to build the wall and street in Jerusalem

You have been clearly answered, a "Future" 490 days will take place, my explanation is clear and concise on my belief

Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained "Future"?

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the future armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. Luke 21:24, Rev 11:2

The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be "future"

To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,

To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy
 
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It appears your "god" lives in a shoebox, or your ignorant of biblical truth
I've had it with you, you foolish little child. I was asking you a genuine question in order to understand your view better and this is the response I get? Referring to my great God and Savior Jesus Christ as "god"? You are evil! You need to grow up. You are pathetic.
 

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When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build (The Wall & Street) unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week or 49 day period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the future armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. Luke 21:24, Rev 11:2

The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.
LOL! And how will reconciliation for iniquity and end of sins be accomplished in the future when Jesus already accomplished that, and the rest of Daniel 9:24, long ago already?

Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
 

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It is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be "future"

To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,

To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy
Agree completely. It's BLASPHEMOUS to apply Daniel 9:24 to the future.
 

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IOW, and in the middle of this literal 7 day period, and if Sunday is the first day of the week, and Saturday is the last day of the week, it is then on a Wednesday, thus the middle of a literal 7 day week, he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

Then somehow, even though there are only 3.5 literal days remaining of this literal week, the 3.5 year, thus not the 3.5 days, tribulation starts at this time.

Summary:

The 70th week consists of 7 literal days, thus consist of Sunday through Saturday. And that on Wednesday, thus the middle of this literal week, he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth. And that the 3.5 year tribulation begins and by Saturday of this same literal week, this 3.5 year tribulation ends, therefore, defying logic and common sense altogether, that 3.5 years can somehow fit within 3.5 literal days.

Please do yourself and everyone else a favor and take a math refresher course. You clearly don't understand basic math. Math, Algebra actually, was what I got my best grades in when I was in high school. But don't ask me any Algebra questions. That was over 50 years ago when I was in high school.. You are obviously taking the 3.5 years literally, the fact you are taking the 70 weeks literally, that it is involving 70 literal weeks rather than 70 weeks of years. Then you are playing gymnastics with basic math by insisting that 3.5 years can be fulfilled within 3.5 literal days.

I sometimes use the example of, one person argues that 2 + 2 = 4, and that another person argues that it equals 5. Yet I never meant it literally as if there is actually someone intelligent out there that thinks it does equal 5. Now I'm beginning to wonder? Maybe there is someone out there that thinks it = 5 or maybe 6, etc. Anything but 4.
Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal future days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years) He Didn't, Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology
 

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Agree completely. It's BLASPHEMOUS to apply Daniel 9:24 to the future.
BLASPHEMOUS? Big LOL!

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal future days, If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written (Four Hundred Ninety Years) He Didn't, Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as has been shown
 
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LOL! And how will reconciliation for iniquity and end of sins be accomplished in the future when Jesus already accomplished that, and the rest of Daniel 9:24, long ago already?

Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
"Daniel's AOD Is Future" and the bad guy causing the Abomination and Desolation will be present on earth to the "Consummation" The Ultimate End

"Future" Events Unfulfilled


Matthew 24:15KJV
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

This "Future" evil figure (The Beast) will be present on earth making (Abomination & Desolation) to the (Consummation) or (The Ultimate End) "Future" Event(s) Unfulfilled

(The Future Consummation)

2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But
the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Merriam-Webster
Definition of consummation

1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage
2:
the ultimate end

Daniel's AOD (Even Until The Consummation) "Future" (The End)

Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations
he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 

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I've had it with you, you foolish little child. I was asking you a genuine question in order to understand your view better and this is the response I get? Referring to my great God and Savior Jesus Christ as "god"? You are evil! You need to grow up. You are pathetic.
Again, read the simple and clear words before your eyes, God's plagues upon the wicked world will passover the Church on earth, those that have been sealed by God the Holy Spirit won't be harmed, Eph 1:13, 4:30

The future 42 month great tribulation in plagues brought by the (Two Witnesses) will be a complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, and God's Church on earth will be protected

Exodus 12:12-13KJV
12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.
13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.

Revelation 9:4KJV
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Revelation 22:4KJV
4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

Gods Divine protection of the Church on earth during the tribulation, the hour of earths temptation

The Church on earth is instructed to enter their dwelling, until the Lords indignation is past, just like the passover in Egypt

Isaiah 26:20-21KJV
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Revelation 3:10KJV
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
 
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It is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be "future"

To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,

To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy
You can't seal up the vision until Daniel's AOD and the consummation has taken place, Daniel 9:27 is future unfulfilled, just as post #874 above clearly shows
 

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You can't seal up the vision until Daniel's AOD and the consummation has taken place, Daniel 9:27 is future unfulfilled, just as post #874 above clearly shows
Good Afternoon my brother in CHRIST

Vision and Prophecy was Sealed UP when GOD gave us Gospel, Acts, Apostles Letters and FINAL = Revelation

The only part of Daniel ch9 that is 'future' is Matthew 24:15-31 , 1 Thess 4:13-18 , 2 Thess chapter 2

SHALOM
 

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Good Afternoon my brother in CHRIST

Vision and Prophecy was Sealed UP when GOD gave us Gospel, Acts, Apostles Letters and FINAL = Revelation

The only part of Daniel ch9 that is 'future' is Matthew 24:15-31 , 1 Thess 4:13-18 , 2 Thess chapter 2

SHALOM
"Everlasting Righteousness" will see fulfillment when Revelation 11:15 takes place as seen below, a future event unfilfilled that takes place at the 7th Trump

Revelation 11:15KJV
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

The most Holy will be anointed (God The Father) when Jesus Christ the Son turns the kingdom over to the Father, and the Son will then be subjected to "God The Father"

I Corinthians 15:28KJV
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
 
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"Everlasting Righteousness" will see fulfillment when Revelation 11:15 takes place as seen below, a future event unfilfilled that takes place at the 7th Trump

Revelation 11:15KJV
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Great Scripture but Everlasting Righteousness was Fulfilled in CHRIST

1There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse,
And a Branch shall grow out of his roots.
2The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him,
The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The Spirit of counsel and might,
The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.
3His delight is in the fear of the Lord,
And He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes,
Nor decide by the hearing of His ears;
4But with righteousness He shall judge the poor,
And decide with equity for the meek of the earth;
He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth,
And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked.
5Righteousness shall be the belt of His loins,
And faithfulness the belt of His waist.

And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment, that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ, being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.

Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation, that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.

Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were pleading through us: we implore you on Christ’s behalf, be reconciled to God.
For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is for their salvation. 2For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. 3Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.
4For Christ is the end of the law,
to bring righteousness to everyone who believes.
 

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Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Your post either ignores or redefines the Millenial Kingdom.
And therefore is incorrect.