Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

[ScottA]

Conclusion: You apparently reject the future literal, visible, Return of Jesus Christ in the heavens as the words of God clearly teache below

Jesus Is The Lord

Matthew 24:30KJV
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Yes, I reject your faulty understanding of Matthew 24:30. For the passage does NOT say WHERE "all the tribes of the earth" are in the part you highlighted in red--but you have added it--while elsewhere in the same verse it clearly says "in heaven."

 

[ScottA]

in agreement with the OP I submit:

Let’s look at the absolute chronological math of the resurrection, which completely shatters the two-phase secret rapture theory.
In 1 Corinthians 15:52, Paul explicitly anchors the translation of living believers and the resurrection of the dead to a definitive marker: "at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible."

If the Church is raptured before or during the tribulation at this 'last trumpet,' then any believers who die during the tribulation would have to be raised at a subsequent trumpet when Christ returns visibly at the end. But mathematically, you cannot have a trumpet sounding after the 'last' trumpet. If trumpets are still blowing for resurrection years later, Paul’s 'last trumpet' wasn't the last one at all.
Furthermore, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 explicitly commands us not to be deceived, declaring that our "gathering together unto him" will NOT happen until the Man of Sin is revealed. Paul binds the gathering of the saints and the final day into a single, visible, thunderous conclusion.

So here is my cross-examination question for you: If Paul states the rapture happens at the last trumpet, and that it cannot happen until after the Man of Sin is revealed, by what scriptural authority do you invent a secret, silent, mid-timeline extraction that takes place before the final trumpet blows? Show me a single verse that mentions a resurrection of saints occurring after the 'last' trumpet has already sounded.

There are still many things wrong in what you have stated.

Putting the rapture (so called) aside, you are looking at the last trump and the man of sin all wrong. Most assume the passages and meaning are as big as this world, and it is true, but not in the way most assume. As all things are in Christ as One man (as it is also written of Adam) the matter is personal. In other words, who is a man of sin by definition, but every man? And likewise, what is the last trump of every man, but his own last breath and heart beat? In these very simple matters all that is written is true--the flesh returns to the dust and the spirit to God who gave it--but with all this being true, do you see what these truths do to the timing of every passage?

But who can hear it and receive it?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Jim, that doesn't actually address my argument.

I never claimed that every resurrection recorded in Scripture is announced by a trumpet. That is not necessary to establish what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:52.

Paul explicitly connects the resurrection of the dead saints and the transformation of the living saints with a trumpet:


My argument is therefore not:

“Every resurrection in Scripture has a trumpet.”

My argument is:

“The resurrection and transformation Paul is discussing in 1 Corinthians 15:52 occurs at the LAST trumpet.”

So the question for the pre-trib/mid-trib position remains:

Where does Scripture teach another resurrection of Church-age saints after Paul's “last trumpet”?

If you believe there is an earlier resurrection of the Church, followed years later by another resurrection of tribulation saints at Christ's coming, then please show the text that teaches that sequence.

And there is an additional problem for the pre-tribulation position in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–3. Paul explicitly connects:


with


and then says:


Whatever one believes about the precise identity of Paul's “day,” Paul plainly warns the Thessalonians not to be deceived concerning the coming of Christ and our gathering to Him, and he places the revelation of the man of sin before that event.

So I'm not arguing that every resurrection in the Bible requires a trumpet.

I'm asking something much narrower:

Where does Scripture teach a resurrection and gathering of the Church before the event Paul calls the “last trumpet,” and before the revelation of the man of sin which Paul says precedes “our gathering together unto him”?

If the answer is simply that there must be an earlier resurrection because the system requires one, then the question of Scriptural authority has not been answered.

The "last trumpet" is blown every year at the feast of trumpets in the fall.

See, this is the problem with "cliché" end times methodology.
Some smoking gun that is going to Hopefully void, ALL THE RAPTURE VERSES.

 

[rebuilder 454]

There are still many things wrong in what you have stated.

Putting the rapture (so called) aside, you are looking at the last trump and the man of sin all wrong. Most assume the passages and meaning are as big as this world, and it is true, but not in the way most assume. As all things are in Christ as One man (as it is also written of Adam) the matter is personal. In other words, who is a man of sin by definition, but every man? And likewise, what is the last trump of every man, but his own last breath and heart beat? In these very simple matters all that is written is true--the flesh returns to the dust and the spirit to God who gave it--but with all this being true, do you see what these truths do to the timing of every passage?

But who can hear it and receive it?

Apparently you can't.
Those dynamics you added are not in the bibles obvious understanding.

 

[Scott Downey]

There are still many things wrong in what you have stated.

Putting the rapture (so called) aside, you are looking at the last trump and the man of sin all wrong. Most assume the passages and meaning are as big as this world, and it is true, but not in the way most assume. As all things are in Christ as One man (as it is also written of Adam) the matter is personal. In other words, who is a man of sin by definition, but every man? And likewise, what is the last trump of every man, but his own last breath and heart beat? In these very simple matters all that is written is true--the flesh returns to the dust and the spirit to God who gave it--but with all this being true, do you see what these truths do to the timing of every passage?

But who can hear it and receive it?

If every man is the 'man of sin' then why did Paul write like he did?
Cause every man before they are saved is a slave of sin and following Satan as sons of disobedience, that was well taught to the early church.

Ephesians 2
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the [a]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

The difference for that coming man of sin Paul writes like this,

2 Thessalonians 2
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the [d]mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only [e]He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Paul describes the lawless one as fully empowered by Satanic powers, satanic signs, lying wonders who deceives the entire unbelieving world.
These are not the general attributes of everyday unbelieving sinners....
Meaning it points to someone special and different.

It also agrees with what Christ taught about who shows up right before He returns a second time bodily in a glorious appearing....

Paul and Jesus are describing the same things and event here and the same second coming of Christ.


Mark 13
19 For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be. 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

21 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘Look, He is there!’ do not believe it.
22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the [g]elect.
23 But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Well, that is where He comes from where He is seated at the right hand of the Father in Heaven.

He will come again a second time...., from heaven to earth as He did the first time.
The coming again a second time is a glorious bodily return where every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him
It is not any kind of spiritual invisible coming, He comes in His glory, and in His Father's glory and in the glory of the angels.

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17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,

20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began.

22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ 24 Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also [f]foretold these days. 25 You are sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.’ 26 To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from your iniquities.”

Pretribbers also believe He comes TO EARTH one time in the future.
Most everyone believes that.

Then by ommitting the other comings to the sky, (= earth since the atmosphere is PART OF EARTH), You have fooled yourself into your doctrine.

Omission is not your friend.
Omission, however, has been your friend.

 

[Scott Downey]

There is no other rapture taught by Christ, except for the one that occurs on His glorious return a second time.
And right before that is a time of great deception and delusion , brought onto the world by Satan and his man of sin, who perform lying wonders, false miracles and signs to turn people away from believing in Christ. That time is so awful, God shortens the days otherwise no flesh would be saved alive.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Jim, that doesn't actually address my argument.

I never claimed that every resurrection recorded in Scripture is announced by a trumpet. That is not necessary to establish what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15:52.

Paul explicitly connects the resurrection of the dead saints and the transformation of the living saints with a trumpet:


My argument is therefore not:

“Every resurrection in Scripture has a trumpet.”

My argument is:

“The resurrection and transformation Paul is discussing in 1 Corinthians 15:52 occurs at the LAST trumpet.”

So the question for the pre-trib/mid-trib position remains:

Where does Scripture teach another resurrection of Church-age saints after Paul's “last trumpet”?

If you believe there is an earlier resurrection of the Church, followed years later by another resurrection of tribulation saints at Christ's coming, then please show the text that teaches that sequence.

And there is an additional problem for the pre-tribulation position in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–3. Paul explicitly connects:


with


and then says:


Whatever one believes about the precise identity of Paul's “day,” Paul plainly warns the Thessalonians not to be deceived concerning the coming of Christ and our gathering to Him, and he places the revelation of the man of sin before that event.

So I'm not arguing that every resurrection in the Bible requires a trumpet.

I'm asking something much narrower:

Where does Scripture teach a resurrection and gathering of the Church before the event Paul calls the “last trumpet,” and before the revelation of the man of sin which Paul says precedes “our gathering together unto him”?

If the answer is simply that there must be an earlier resurrection because the system requires one, then the question of Scriptural authority has not been answered.

Just read it without preconceived guard rails.

Before the Pretrib rapture, the man of sin REVEALED.
I am pretrib rapture adherent, and 100% agreement he is in Fact REVEALED PRIOR to the rapture.
A thousand amens to that.

"The last trump sounds."
Amen to that.
It sounds every year at the feast of trumpets.

But if we need a supernatural blast from heaven...I am ok with it.

Ever read revelation.?

What did Jesus voice contain at his advent with John on patmos????

A TRUMPET.
A TRUMPET IN HIS VOICE.
So we have a coming with a trumpet on atmosphere, 2000 years ago that is separate from postribber guardrails.

Again, the guardrails must be dropped to get to the uninhibited truth.
Cliché methodology is so limited.
It is editing bibles with massive omissions.

 

[rebuilder 454]

There is no other rapture taught by Christ, except for the one that occurs on His glorious return a second time.
And right before that is a time of great deception and delusion , brought onto the world by Satan and his man of sin, who perform lying wonders, false miracles and signs to turn people away from believing in Christ. That time is so awful, God shortens the days otherwise no flesh would be saved alive.

Is this his glorious return ?
Rev 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

 

[rebuilder 454]

There is no other rapture taught by Christ, except for the one that occurs on His glorious return a second time.
And right before that is a time of great deception and delusion , brought onto the world by Satan and his man of sin, who perform lying wonders, false miracles and signs to turn people away from believing in Christ. That time is so awful, God shortens the days otherwise no flesh would be saved alive.

Noah is gathered post flood?
Lot gathered post fireballs?
The baby Jesus was gathered, post Herod's baby slaughter?
Should they have been gathered "after", as you are insisting?

 

[rebuilder 454]

If every man is the 'man of sin' then why did Paul write like he did?
Cause every man before they are saved is a slave of sin and following Satan as sons of disobedience, that was well taught to the early church.

Ephesians 2
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the [a]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

The difference for that coming man of sin Paul writes like this,

2 Thessalonians 2
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the [d]mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only [e]He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Paul describes the lawless one as fully empowered by Satanic powers, satanic signs, lying wonders who deceives the entire unbelieving world.
These are not the general attributes of everyday unbelieving sinners....
Meaning it points to someone special and different.

It also agrees with what Christ taught about who shows up right before He returns a second time bodily in a glorious appearing....

Paul and Jesus are describing the same things and event here and the same second coming of Christ.


Mark 13
19 For in those days there will be tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the creation which God created until this time, nor ever shall be. 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

21 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘Look, He is there!’ do not believe it.
22 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the [g]elect.
23 But take heed; see, I have told you all things beforehand.

The Coming of the Son of Man​

24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

Yes.
It says after the trib ANGELS GATHER.
It says JESUS SENDS...obviously Jesus is not involved.
Jesus STAYS...ANGELS GO GATHER.
that is EXACTLY WHAT it says.

Where?
Where do angels( not Jesus) gather saints?

From heaven and heavens atmosphere, ( THE UTTERMOST PART OF EARTH)

Your selected passage ONLY FITS a pretrib rapture because in the rapture JESUS GATHERS.
In your verses ANGELS GATHER AND JESUS is missing.

 

[Scott Downey]

Pretribbers also believe He comes TO EARTH one time in the future.
Most everyone believes that.

Then by ommitting the other comings to the sky, (= earth since the atmosphere is PART OF EARTH), You have fooled yourself into your doctrine.

Omission is not your friend.
Omission, however, has been your friend.

Make your list and let's explore what it says

 

[Scott Downey]

Yes.
It says after the trib ANGELS GATHER.
It says JESUS SENDS...obviously Jesus is not involved.
Jesus STAYS...ANGELS GO GATHER.
that is EXACTLY WHAT it says.

Where?
Where do angels( not Jesus) gather saints?

From heaven and heavens atmosphere, ( THE UTTERMOST PART OF EARTH)

Your selected passage ONLY FITS a pretrib rapture because in the rapture JESUS GATHERS.
In your verses ANGELS GATHER AND JESUS is missing.

Angle are sent on a mission by Christ, they are angels under authority.
Angels gather both the wicked and the just.

That Matthew 24 is the same gathering event as Mark 13 and as you see, all His people in heaven and on earth are gathered to Him, on that Last Day, angels here are gathering the elect, who are the just, the righteous, the believers, who are on the earth immediately after that great tribulation, and the departed saints of God in heaven.

Matt 24
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13
24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

 

[Scott Downey]

The four winds are of those on the earth, incase anyone is confused.... the earth has North, South, East, West.... and scripture also mention the 4 corners of the earth

Isaiah 11:12
He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

Revelation 7:1
After these things I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree.

 

[The Light]

Bo

The "last trumpet" is blown every year at the feast of trumpets in the fall.

This year is special as the Feast of Trumpets is in the SUMMER.

I have held the belief that the Church will not be raptured on the Feast of Trumpets as the Feast of Trumpets is in the fall and will be for the Jews.

I found out yesterday that it is rare for the Feast of Trumpets to occur in the summer as normally occurs in late September or October.

I know that the Church is raptured in the summer so I would be watching and ready on this Feast of Trumpet especially.

 

[Scott Downey]

Is this his glorious return ?
Rev 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Isaiah 65
15 For behold, the Lord will come with fire
And with His chariots, like a whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.

16 For by fire and by His sword
The Lord will judge all flesh;
And the slain of the Lord shall be many.

This is the glorious bodily return, because He meets with all flesh on the earth in judgment of them and many are destroyed, JUST LIKE 2 Thess 1 describes, when HE comes on the DAY of the Lord.

2 Thess 1

God’s Final Judgment and Glory​

3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is fitting, because your faith grows exceedingly, and the love of every one of you all abounds toward each other, 4 so that we ourselves boast of you among the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and [a]tribulations that you endure, 5 which is manifest[b] evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you also suffer; 6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with [c]tribulation those who trouble you,

7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who [d]believe, because our testimony among you was believed.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Only one rapture?:

Or, [ Exploration list of ] Three?

A) God's Other Different Context of Heavenly Mystery / Grace for The Body Of
Christ (Romans - Philemon) - In God's "Revelation Of The Mystery" we find our
one Mystery resurrection / 'rapture' ( #1 ):

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,​

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall​

sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."​

(1 Corinthians 15:51-52 AV)​

+ (# 1)​

"For The LORD Himself Shall Descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of​

the archangel, and with The Trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:​

Then we which are alive and remain shall be Caught Up together with them in​

the clouds, to meet The LORD in the air: and so shall we ever be with The LORD.​

Wherefore comfort one another with These Words." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 AV)​

Very comforting Words for the Body Of Christ, All of God's Grace ambassadors being
Recalled [ "Caught Up" ] To Heaven ( see below ), Before...

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

B) God's Context of earthly prophecy / covenants / law for Israel
(Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation)

...Before God Declares Judgment and War On an UNbelieving world, which is known as:

The Time Of JACOB's (Israel's) Trouble (TOJT), where there are Two More Prophesied 'raptures':

(#2): The two witnesses "ascended up to heaven" (Rev 11:11-12 AV) , And:

(#3): 144,000 "sealed on earth" (Rev 7:4-8 KJV), and then "redeemed {raptured?}
from the earth, And found before "The Throne Of God" (Rev 14:3-5 AV)
+
Two prophesied 'resurrections' are found in Rev 20: 5-6 and 20:12 AV.

Conclusion: Total 'raptures' = Three, Correct?
----------------

C) All Related Scriptures Compared, (Rule #5) Rightly Divided are here, in an:

Exploration list Of Scriptures For Pre-TOJT rapture:

God's Great GRACE Departure!​

Amen.

----------
And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

 

[The Light]

Angle are sent on a mission by Christ, they are angels under authority.
Angels gather both the wicked and the just.

That Matthew 24 is the same gathering event as Mark 13 and as you see, all His people in heaven and on earth are gathered to Him, on that Last Day, angels here are gathering the elect, who are the just, the righteous, the believers, who are on the earth immediately after that great tribulation, and the departed saints of God in heaven.

Matt 24
29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His [d]elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13
24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then He will send His angels, and gather together His [h]elect from the four winds, from the farthest part of earth to the farthest part of heaven.

You are correct that the gathering from heaven and earth happens on the LAST DAY.

This is the last day of the age. According to scripture, the last day of the age occurs at the 6th seal.

At the gathering from heaven and earth, the Church is gathered from heaven (where they are raptured before the great tribulation) and the 12 tribes across the earth are gathered from the earth. The 144,000 first fruits from 12 tribes are the first fruits of the gathering from the earth.

All return to heaven for the marriage supper and are the great multitude in Revelation 7 and Revelation 19.

There will be no believers on the earth during the wrath of God besides the two witnesses and those that flee to a place of protection from the nation of Israel.

 

[Scott Downey]

Only one rapture?:

Or, [ Exploration list of ] Three?

A) God's Other Different Context of Heavenly Mystery / Grace for The Body Of
Christ (Romans - Philemon) - In God's "Revelation Of The Mystery" we find our
one Mystery resurrection / 'rapture' ( #1 ):

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,​

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall​

sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."​

(1 Corinthians 15:51-52 AV)​

+ (# 1)​

"For The LORD Himself Shall Descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of​

the archangel, and with The Trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:​

Then we which are alive and remain shall be Caught Up together with them in​

the clouds, to meet The LORD in the air: and so shall we ever be with The LORD.​

Wherefore comfort one another with These Words." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 AV)​

Very comforting Words for the Body Of Christ, All of God's Grace ambassadors being
Recalled [ "Caught Up" ] To Heaven ( see below ), Before...

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

B) God's Context of earthly prophecy / covenants / law for Israel
(Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation)

...Before God Declares Judgment and War On an UNbelieving world, which is known as:

The Time Of JACOB's (Israel's) Trouble (TOJT), where there are Two More Prophesied 'raptures':

(#2): The two witnesses "ascended up to heaven" (Rev 11:11-12 AV) , And:

(#3): 144,000 "sealed on earth" (Rev 7:4-8 KJV), and then "redeemed {raptured?}
from the earth, And found before "The Throne Of God" (Rev 14:3-5 AV)
+
Two prophesied 'resurrections' are found in Rev 20: 5-6 and 20:12 AV.

Conclusion: Total 'raptures' = Three, Correct?
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C) All Related Scriptures Compared, (Rule #5) Rightly Divided are here, in an:

Exploration list Of Scriptures For Pre-TOJT rapture:

God's Great GRACE Departure!​

Amen.

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Do you understand this is not the apostolic historical understanding of the church?
This is a modern teaching of the last days, and Christ, Paul, Peter warned us to be watchful in all things as pertaining to doctrine.

2 Timothy 4

I charge you [a]therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead [b]at His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

That last day Christ judges ALL, saved unsaved, (living and the dead), when He comes that second time to judge the world in righteousness

Acts 17
Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one [j]blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”

In order to judge the world, He has to make a bodily appearance as the righteous judge, and every eye will see Him, that is the only fair thing to do... How would you like to go to court in front of an invisible judge and invisible witnesses.

 

[The Light]

Only one rapture?:

Or, [ Exploration list of ] Three?

A) God's Other Different Context of Heavenly Mystery / Grace for The Body Of
Christ (Romans - Philemon) - In God's "Revelation Of The Mystery" we find our
one Mystery resurrection / 'rapture' ( #1 ):

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,​

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall​

sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."​

(1 Corinthians 15:51-52 AV)​

+ (# 1)​

"For The LORD Himself Shall Descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of​

the archangel, and with The Trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:​

Then we which are alive and remain shall be Caught Up together with them in​

the clouds, to meet The LORD in the air: and so shall we ever be with The LORD.​

Wherefore comfort one another with These Words." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 AV)​

Very comforting Words for the Body Of Christ, All of God's Grace ambassadors being
Recalled [ "Caught Up" ] To Heaven ( see below ), Before...

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

B) God's Context of earthly prophecy / covenants / law for Israel
(Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation)

...Before God Declares Judgment and War On an UNbelieving world, which is known as:

The Time Of JACOB's (Israel's) Trouble (TOJT), where there are Two More Prophesied 'raptures':

(#2): The two witnesses "ascended up to heaven" (Rev 11:11-12 AV) , And:

(#3): 144,000 "sealed on earth" (Rev 7:4-8 KJV), and then "redeemed {raptured?}
from the earth, And found before "The Throne Of God" (Rev 14:3-5 AV)
+
Two prophesied 'resurrections' are found in Rev 20: 5-6 and 20:12 AV.

Conclusion: Total 'raptures' = Three, Correct?
----------------

C) All Related Scriptures Compared, (Rule #5) Rightly Divided are here, in an:

Exploration list Of Scriptures For Pre-TOJT rapture:

God's Great GRACE Departure!​

Amen.

----------
And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Actually, contrary to popular opinion, there are 5 raptures.

1. The dead in Christ rise first. The spring barley harvest. The alive remain.

2. The Lord returns for the alive that remain. The summer wheat harvest. This completes the grain harvest. Both are secret raptures according to scripture.

3. The 144,000 first fruits of the 12 tribes are raptured.

4. The Lord comes at the Last Trump blown on the Feast of Trumpets. This is the fall fruit harvest. It will occur at the end of the age which is the 6th seal. This is the rapture of the Jews as the 144,000 are first fruits of this harvest.

5. Two witnesses are raptured during the wrath of God.