You mean Israel in the Land of the Bible? They don't have to TOOT their own horns (Look at me). God does it for them! They're in International news every day. Why aren't you?
The Prophetic Feasts of Israel
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The identity THIEVES remind me somewhat of Preterists. WILD imaginations!
God bless Israel in the Land of the Bible, their Land!
Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
And He did!
14 They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
All the wannabees on Earth can't move Israel out of THEIR Land! Many will die trying.
God bless Israel in the Land of the Bible, their Land!
Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
And He did!
14 They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
All the wannabees on Earth can't move Israel out of THEIR Land! Many will die trying.
The Light
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You are confusing the gathering of the Church, pretrib rapture, which is in 1 Thes 4 with the gathering from heaven and earth which occurs in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21.
Mark 13
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
The coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 does not occur in Revelation 19, it occurs at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Until you understand this FACT, it is impossible to understand the book of Revelation. God tells us Jesus returns for a harvest and sends his angels to gather the elect at the 6th seal.
Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
This event is 1 Corinthians 15:51-51, when the Lord comes at the Last Trump and sends his angels to gather the elect. It is the Jews that are mostly gathered, as the fullness of the Gentiles has already come in. 144,000 first fruits from 12 tribes guarantees a harvest of the 12 tribes.
Again. The Lord Himself comes for His Church BEFORE the great tribulation. Then the 12 tribes across the earth have their eyes opened. They, the seed of the woman are raptured at the 6th seal when He sends HIs angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth.
The fig tree has two harvests.
The Light
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John has a vision of 7 seals. When the seals are actually opened by Jesus the events of the seals will happen. They happen in order 1 thru 7.
You are very confused. Each seal happens in order, 1 thru 7. If you read Matthew 24 you will see that the 1st 4 seals are the beginning of sorrows. The great tribulation in Mattew 24 is the 5th seal. The coming of Jesus when He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth is the 6th seal. Matthew 24 does not contain the 7th seal as it is the wrath of God. The 7th seal contains the trumpets and vials of wrath.
Your logic is flawed. You are basically claiming that 1st 6 seals are contained in the 7th seal. Totally illogical and unbiblical.
You have the Church on earth during the wrath of God which is unbiblical as believers are not appointed to wrath.
1 Thessalonians 5
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
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I Disagree, I Received Jesus Christ Many Years Ago I'm Sealed By God The Holy Spirit, I'm Part Of The Church On The Earth, I Belong To The Israel Of God (The Church On Earth) Children Of The Promised Seed
Sorry TOOTERS, I was busy reading about Israel the Land of the Bible in the news every day.
Nobody ever hears about the TOOTERS unless they're TOOTING (Look at me).
God bless Israel, in the Land of the Bible, whom He fought for in 1948, 1967 against several COWARD Arab nations, whom He blessed with President Trump and Elon Musk two or the most powerful humans on Earth!
Thank you Jesus, God of Israel!
Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,
Nobody ever hears about the TOOTERS unless they're TOOTING (Look at me).
God bless Israel, in the Land of the Bible, whom He fought for in 1948, 1967 against several COWARD Arab nations, whom He blessed with President Trump and Elon Musk two or the most powerful humans on Earth!
Thank you Jesus, God of Israel!
Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,
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Neither is true.
No, the seal is only about the 30 min of silence, not anything after that.
I never said anything of the sort. It is false that the 1st 6 seals are contained in the 7th seal. Believing the trumps are in the 7th seal is just as ridiculous.
The church is not on Earth during the wrath of God. They are raptured right before the wrath begins.
"Seven prophetic feasts" of Israel, all celebrating Messiah Jesus, are as follows:
1 Passover---Jesus, Passover Lamb, paid our debt
2 Unleavened Bread--Jesus did no sin (leaven symbolizes sin)
3. First Fruits--Jesus was first fruits from the grave
4. Pentecost/Weeks--Jesus sent the Spirit
5. Trumpets--Jesus will return in judgment
6 Atonement--Jesus will atone for Israel and Gentiles
7. Booths/Tabernacles-Millennial reign of King Jesus
1 Passover---Jesus, Passover Lamb, paid our debt
2 Unleavened Bread--Jesus did no sin (leaven symbolizes sin)
3. First Fruits--Jesus was first fruits from the grave
4. Pentecost/Weeks--Jesus sent the Spirit
5. Trumpets--Jesus will return in judgment
6 Atonement--Jesus will atone for Israel and Gentiles
7. Booths/Tabernacles-Millennial reign of King Jesus
The Light
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These feasts are a picture of things to come. Pentecost is a harvest feast. No harvest has occurred. Trumpets is a harvest feast. No harvest has occurred. Atonement will be the last year of the 7 years and will be a year of rest and atonement. Tabernacles will be the millennial kingdom
Spiritual Israelite
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I am not filled with hate for Israel at all and have never said so and never said anything to indicate as such. Did Satan himself tell you to come here and slander me like this? I'm wondering what your motives are for lying about me. Why are you an evil person who lies about people? You need to repent of your wickedness and stop judging people.
Spiritual Israelite
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Nice job of not addressing the content of my post. I am part of the spiritual Israel of God, as are all Christians who have been made a new creation in Christ. Your childish nonsense can't change that.
Galatians 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation. 16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.
Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” 8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.
Ephesians 2:11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands— 12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. 17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. 19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
IOW, nobody has heard about you unless you TOOT (Look at me)! The entire world is watching the God of Israel, Jesus.
Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,
Why ain't NOBODY heard about you?
Answer: The world is watching the real Israel in the Land of the Bible!
Spiritual Israelite
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Who are God's chosen people that Paul refers to here...
Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.
Who are God's people that are referred to here...
Galatians 3:26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Spiritual Israelite
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LOL! Who has heard of you? NOBODY. So, what is your point? People can read the Bible and see who God's people are, which are those who have faith, whether Jew or Gentile. It's not based on nationality.
It sure ain't the WANNABEES who MUST TOOT their horns (Look at me)!
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