Some will die today and be cast forever into the Lake of Fire

[amigo de christo]

Nowhere in scripture do we read of the souls of the unsaved being resurrected with a body that is made for the purpose of enduring an eternity of torture in what we understand as physical fire.

The " lake of fire" or " fire" in general is spiritual language that God uses for judgement. Eternal fire is eternal judgment or punishment which is the death of the soul. There is no greater punishment than being separated from God.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 KJV
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

How does this verse fit in with eternal torture by fire? The punishment is everlasting DESTRUCTION.

nor anywhere in scripture and in revelation do we ever hear of a second chance .
DO let us keep that in mind . For if we truly desire good , oh i say , if we truly had desired
the salvation of souls , we had never pumped out false love and a false hope to any .
WE had rather pointed ONLY TO CHRIST JESUS with a sense of dire urgency for to REPENT and BELEIVE ON HIM .
No matter how loving , or kind , or even hopeful a lie might sound , OH IT IS A LIE and OH IT WILL NOT SAVE .
And we can have no part in a cup of inclusive anti christ or its ecumiencal harlot who has sold
the religoins and christendom a lie . We simply cannot be partakers and co helpers to both
TRUTH and A LIE , LIGHT and darkness . ITS ONE or the other but cannot be both .
You get every man woman and child you know a warning .
And let that warning be , GET OUTTA ANYTHING ECUMIENCAL INTERFIATH INCLUSIVE NOW .
The end cometh and the hour wherein
THE DOOR will close . WHEN IT DO , not some , not even most , but ALL outside shall wail .
AND THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY INTO This ark , this body , ONE DOOR alone .
And budda , nor muhammed , nor any other religion b e that door or can squeeze anyone into
this ark . ONLY JESUS . I say again ONLY JESUS . TIS by grace ye are saved by FAITH in HIM .
And GOD NOR HIS CHRIST gonna share their glory with satan .
And every other religoin IS of satan . ONLY JESUS . i say ag ain ONLY JESUS saves .
And for to be saved YE must believe . AND we cannot beleive both TRUTH AND A LIE .
or it was always a lie we had our faith in my friend .

 

[Luther7]

nor anywhere in scripture and in revelation do we ever hear of a second chance .
DO let us keep that in mind . For if we truly desire good , oh i say , if we truly had desired
the salvation of souls , we had never pumped out false love and a false hope to any .
WE had rather pointed ONLY TO CHRIST JESUS with a sense of dire urgency for to REPENT and BELEIVE ON HIM .
No matter how loving , or kind , or even hopeful a lie might sound , OH IT IS A LIE and OH IT WILL NOT SAVE .
And we can have no part in a cup of inclusive anti christ or its ecumiencal harlot who has sold
the religoins and christendom a lie . We simply cannot be partakers and co helpers to both
TRUTH and A LIE , LIGHT and darkness . ITS ONE or the other but cannot be both .
You get every man woman and child you know a warning .
And let that warning be , GET OUTTA ANYTHING ECUMIENCAL INTERFIATH INCLUSIVE NOW .
The end cometh and the hour wherein
THE DOOR will close . WHEN IT DO , not some , not even most , but ALL outside shall wail .
AND THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY INTO This ark , this body , ONE DOOR alone .
And budda , nor muhammed , nor any other religion b e that door or can squeeze anyone into
this ark . ONLY JESUS . I say again ONLY JESUS . TIS by grace ye are saved by FAITH in HIM .
And GOD NOR HIS CHRIST gonna share their glory with satan .
And every other religoin IS of satan . ONLY JESUS . i say ag ain ONLY JESUS saves .
And for to be saved YE must believe . AND we cannot beleive both TRUTH AND A LIE .
or it was always a lie we had our faith in my friend .

John 6:64 KJV
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

Amen. Jesus knows even before we do.

 

[amigo de christo]

John 6:64 KJV
But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

Amen. Jesus knows even before we do.

so guess what HE knows . A lie cannot save them .
So now what i say to you luther i say to all ...........Ecumeincal intefaith is of anti christ and e very hand that joins in it
and the lie will be damned . your blood nor any others will be on my hands . I warned .
We simply speak TRUTH . The t rue gospel must be sounded out .
For what i say to one i say to all , the social justice one , YEAH it b e of anti christ too .
I suppose its exposing day TODAY .
My advice is get hopes off of men and politics , Let us hope ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST .
And again that is yet another fact . TO the trenches luther . TO the trenches . Time to line the walls
and sound the trumpets . This world Running OUT TA TIME .

 

[Justified]

Nowhere in scripture do we read of the souls of the unsaved being resurrected with a body that is made for the purpose of enduring an eternity of torture in what we understand as physical fire.

And nowhere in my post do we read of such things either. Yet, we do know that the unsaved are resurrected, in some manner, right (Rev. 20:11-15)?

The " lake of fire" or " fire" in general is spiritual language that God uses for judgement. Eternal fire is eternal judgment or punishment which is the death of the soul. There is no greater punishment than being separated from God.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 KJV
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

How does this verse fit in with eternal torture by fire? The punishment is everlasting DESTRUCTION.

When does this everlasting destruction begin for unbelievers? What do you mean by "the death of the soul," is it non-existence or separation from God or something else? And why do you use the word "torture" when it doesn't appear in the Bible? That seems like a straw man.

 

[amigo de christo]

And nowhere in my post do we read of such things either. Yet, we do know that the unsaved are resurrected, in some manner, right (Rev. 20:11-15)?


When does this everlasting destruction begin for unbelievers? What do you mean by "the death of the soul," is it non-existence or separation from God or something else? And why do you use the word "torture" when it doesn't appear in the Bible? That seems like a straw man.

LETS USE JESUS OWN WORDS .
For he himself speaks of a ressurection of the just AND of the unjust .
OH YES . And many gonna wail my friend .
Any man or woman that heard that gospel and rejected is gonna wail like never before .
KEEP THAT IN MIND and follow not in any way THE inclusive god and his ecumeincal whore and her interfaith .
That god cannot save . And they will all end IN PERDITION . Not gonna bode well at all
for those who tried to PLAY BoTH SIDES .
as IN , OH I beleive but then turn around and buy the lie of satan himself that said ALL religoins
serve the same GOD and are coming to GOD in different ways . WE EITHER BELIEVE OR WE DONT .
BUT IT CANNOT be both . FLEE anyone connected to anything ecumencial and NOW . And DONT LOOK back either .

 

[JimKnox]

And they deserve it because they didn't care enough to seek God when they had the chance. But don't assume that you're saved if you're only lukewarm otherwise you too will be cast forever into the Lake of Fire. After perusing this forum it's obvious to me that there are many lukewarm Christians. Repent or be prepared to burn alive forever!

This is not true.
The lake of fire does not appear until AFTER the Millenial Kingdom of Christ.

 

[JimKnox]

Matthew 25:46 says it's forever. Are you calling Jesus a liar?

That is NOT the lake of fire.
Eisegesis is the enemy of sound doctrine.
Beware of this false teacher!!!!

 

[JimKnox]

I think the idea is nonsense and is used as a scare tactic by small people to make themselves feel big. Even on a practical level, accusing other Christians of being 'lukewarm', and therefore at risk of being sent to hell, is grotesque, and should result in a temporary ban.

False teacher, you are.

 

[JimKnox]

Again, YES the fire is EVERLASTING.
Again, I understand that FOREVER & EVER torment applies to Rev 14:11 & Rev 20:10
Yet there is NO mention of FOREVER & EVER in Rev 20:15.
Are there other verses that you are aware of that teach FOREVER & EVER for those in Rev 20:15 ?

Stop being obtuse.
CONTEXT demands that WHOMEVER is cast into the LOF are there FOREVER.
Stop twisting Scripture.

 

[amigo de christo]

False teacher, you are.

Yes indeed my friend . you would marvel at what many who now follow the love of a harlot believe .
Many have left off beholding both the goodness of and Severity of GOD .
And their goodness is false , a sensual love that simply allows sin and even now UNBELEIF to remain .

 

[JimKnox]

I've read through three pages of this thread AND replied to a few of these people's posts.
I've discovered a commonality among BOTH sides of this argument.
Neither side has truly considered the NATURE of God!!!!
Ye who say the eternal torment of the LOF are NOT for humans have impugned the nature of God.
Ye who say it is symbolic are ALSO insulting God.
Ye are not truly saved if you are creating a (god) who resembles YOUR sensibilities.

The lake of fire is eternal and whomever is cast therein are there forever.
Because God said so.

 

[amigo de christo]

I've read through three pages of this thread AND replied to a few of these people's posts.
I've discovered a commonality among BOTH sides of this argument.
Neither side has truly considered the NATURE of God!!!!
Ye who say the eternal torment of the LOF are NOT for humans have impugned the nature of God.
Ye who say it is symbolic are ALSO insulting God.
Ye are not truly saved if you are creating a (god) who resembles YOUR sensibilities.

The lake of fire is eternal and whomever is cast therein are there forever.
Because God said so.

you also gonna see something very sad and very troubling .
The same ones t rying to omit the lake of fire and etc
YOU WONT FIND THEM PREACHING THE DIRE NEED to BLEIEVE ON JESUS anymore either .
The path , OH ITS GETTING REAL BRAOD indeed my friend .
The severity of GOD was removed and a false goodness that seems to accept sins and even false religoins
GROWS by the day and by the hour . IT BE the inclusive god that has lied to them all . THE all inclusive god ,
OH ITS SATAN . ON that i have NO DOUBT AT ALL . We really should have stuck to the bible my friend .