JD Vance weighs in on Christianity and our government

[Bob]

Another interesting post on X by Walk with God

Vice President JD Vance says one of Satan’s deceptions is convincing Christians that faith belongs in one part of life while politics belongs in another. In a recent conversation with Bishop Robert Barron, Vance argued that Jesus Christ is Lord over all of life, not just private morality or church attendance, and that believers should not treat politics, economics, and public policy as areas beyond God’s concern.

Vance called for a more fully Christian politics, warning against the temptation to make idols out of economic growth, corporations, or cultural comfort. He said Christians have often been willing to apply their faith to a few social issues while ignoring how biblical truth should shape other parts of national life, including the economy, family policy, and the dignity of the human person.

For many believers, Vance’s message is a reminder that Christian faith cannot be confined to a private corner. If Christ is truly Lord, then His truth speaks not only to marriage and family, but also to government, justice, and the moral direction of society. In that sense, Vance argued, separating faith from politics is not neutrality, but a spiritual deception.

Comments?

 

[SavedInHim]

Comments?

Mainly, he wants the GOP to get the Christian vote in November. Vance doesn't understand the Constitution.

 

[Triumph1300]

Vance doesn't understand the Constitution.

And he has no clue about Christianity.

 

[markalan]

Everything that everyone does is shaped by their world view.

The Christian faith shaped many of the ideas of the "founding fathers".

 

[SavedInHim]

And he has no clue about Christianity.

That too. I don't believe there's no place for religion in politics; however, the Constitution is clear: The government cannot endorse one religion over another.

Vance seems a little hypocritical when he says "Jesus Christ is Lord over all of life." I agree with that statement, but I don't see how he can say it with a straight face and still support the current president and many of his policies.

 

[markalan]

Vance seems a little hypocritical when he says "Jesus Christ is Lord over all of life." I agree with that statement, but I don't see how he can say it with a straight face and still support the current president and many of his policies.

Would that mean all the Christians who support Trump's policies are "a little hypocritical"?

 

[SavedInHim]

Would that mean all the Christians who support Trump's policies are "a little hypocritical"?

If they said what Vance said and continued support Trump, you'd have to wonder about them.

 

[markalan]

If they said what Vance said and continued support Trump, you'd have to wonder about them.

that claim would include the majority of evangelical Christians

 

[SavedInHim]

that claim would include the majority of evangelical Christians

Okay.

 

[PS95]

That too. I don't believe there's no place for religion in politics; however, the Constitution is clear: The government cannot endorse one religion over another.

Vance seems a little hypocritical when he says "Jesus Christ is Lord over all of life." I agree with that statement, but I don't see how he can say it with a straight face and still support the current president and many of his policies.

The Constitution does not say the government can't endorse one religion over another. HAHA. What did you read? It says that Congress can make NO LAW.. here I quote-
1st amendment-
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nowhere does it say that a president, a congressmen or VP can not endorse his religion. They are also allowed to have the freedom to practice their religion. The founders certainly did endorse Christianity, and they wrote the Constitution! Endorsing something is far apart form making something a LAW. It seems that you are confused.

It's terribly disrespectful to say that the VP does not know the Constitution. We will be held accountable for the things we say. I urge caution on your part. You don't have to like Trump- that doesn't make it ok to speak ill of him or the VP or of ANYONE. We are Christians and are taught to speak evil of no one. Pointing a finger at what someone else does is easy... but paying attention to our own words is hard, but of utmost importance to God - as you claim Christ as your Lord- so walk in Him. Do you see what I am saying?
Trumps' policies? If that's what you oppose, FINE. Bring it on. I may or may not agree with you.-- But the personal slanders and verbal attacks are not ok for Christians. It's a disgrace. They claim they don't like the hate he tweeted while they spew hate out of their mouths non stop. It's utter hypocrisy. They make Christianity look repulsive.
I have read some things on here by believers that I think they will be disciplined by the Lord for. We are not to do what they do. Please be above what I have read. You don't have to have dinner with them. Criticizing policy is fine. Discipline is no fun!

 

[SavedInHim]

The Constitution does not say the government can't endorse one religion over another. HAHA. What did you read? It says that Congress can make NO LAW.. here I quote-
1st amendment-
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nowhere does it say that a president, a congressmen or VP can not endorse his religion. They are also allowed to have the freedom to practice their religion. The founders certainly did endorse Christianity, and they wrote the Constitution! Endorsing something is far apart form making something a LAW. It seems that you are confused.

It's terribly disrespectful to say that the VP does not know the Constitution. We will be held accountable for the things we say. I urge caution on your part. You don't have to like Trump- that doesn't make it ok to speak ill of him or the VP or of ANYONE. We are Christians and are taught to speak evil of no one. Pointing a finger at what someone else does is easy... but paying attention to our own words is hard, but of utmost importance to God - as you claim Christ as your Lord- so walk in Him. Do you see what I am saying?
Trumps' policies? If that's what you oppose, FINE. Bring it on. I may or may not agree with you.-- But the personal slanders and verbal attacks are not ok for Christians. It's a disgrace. They claim they don't like the hate he tweeted while they spew hate out of their mouths non stop. It's utter hypocrisy. They make Christianity look repulsive.
I have read some things on here by believers that I think they will be disciplined by the Lord for. We are not to do what they do. Please be above what I have read. You don't have to have dinner with them. Criticizing policy is fine. Discipline is no fun!

Okay.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

If they said what Vance said and continued support Trump, you'd have to wonder about them.

and what is Trump doing that don't you agree with?

 

[markalan]

and what is Trump doing that don't you agree with?

My impression of politics in the US is that there is a personal aversion to Trump which makes people on the Left oppose every one of his policies in an irrational manner.

 

[SavedInHim]

My impression of politics in the US is that there is a personal aversion to Trump which makes people on the Left oppose every one of his policies in an irrational manner.

I can't speak for anyone else, but for myself it's the other way around. Have you ever considered maybe this belief of yours is irrational. Not everyone who dislikes someone's policies is a leftist or a communist. Conservatives used to understand that.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

My impression of politics in the US is that there is a personal aversion to Trump which makes people on the Left oppose every one of his policies in an irrational manner.

Yes, exactly. The left is 100% demonic.

Everything the left believes is to destroy life and natural order!

Feminism: females think they should fight me and demand equality but then wants a man to take care of them and creates tension, unrealistic demands, and confusion about roles and responsibilities. Resulting in fewer marriages.

Abortion: Treats human life as disposable when inconvenient. Encourages sexual behavior without accountability. Weakens respect for life and erodes personal responsibility.

Socialism: Promises “free” benefits that are unsustainable. Concentrates power among political elites while reducing prosperity for the public. Leads to economic decline, dependency, and inequality between leaders and citizens.

Trans-agenda: to destroy mental and physical health to those that deny biological reality.

Social-justice: a rouse to cover up for destructive behavior. Encourages property damage, unrest, and ideological extremism. Creates chaos and undermines respect for law and order.

Open borders: Weakens national security and cultural cohesion. Increases crime risk, depresses wages, and strains communities. Erodes national identity, disrupts local economies, and burdens public systems.

No way an obedient follower of Christ Jesus would be a leftist.

 

[markalan]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for myself it's the other way around. Have you ever considered maybe this belief of yours is irrational. Not everyone who dislikes someone's policies is a leftist or a communist. Conservatives used to understand that.

If a person thinks Christians who support Trump are hypocritical, I would say that is an irrational position.

 

[Wrangler]

Vice President JD Vance says one of Satan’s deceptions is convincing Christians that faith belongs in one part of life while politics belongs in another.

Comments?

Spot on. I've long said on the top 20 issues of the day, Pastors around the country should teach what Scripture informs us about God's solution to modern problems. I saw a headline today that research shows that too much TV watching shrinks the brain. If the Bible cannot guide us practically, it is of no real use.

Therefore, for every issue, I like to start with what does Scripture say on the matter. Regarding illegal immigration, I am informed by the Proverb not to move the ancient boundary stone, etc. Of course, the narrow path is hard to find and it is easy to go too far left or right. That is where discernment comes in. Let us pray.