OH Nancy-I see those as very broad & judgmental statements. Do you know these people? I can't say what is in those people's hearts. I don't know any of them. Putting "Christian' in quotes means you consider them to be non-Christians.
I still have no idea if I am considered a
Nationalist because the definitions varied so much that I gave up tryna figure it out.. So- I simply asked you to define it for me, on that horrid Nationalist thread - and your reply was rude and hurtful. You said-
"I don't fight with the BLIND."
To me, to call someone blind means they reject Jesus. It was a mean spirited insult imho.
Why not just answer a simple Q? What is a Nationalist
to you? I honestly don't know. I will tell you how I see it- its very simple to me, but someone changed the definition, I do believe. It never had a thing to do with Israel.
There appears to be only 2 views on Israel here. I think much of the country has a 3rd view. I don't fit either. I know this- they
all need Christ as much as I do, and I am not flustered by wars-
Jesus told us wars were necessary- see that you are not terrified. Expect wars- THEY MUST COME TO PASS! matt 24
I don't have the advantage of reading itel,- I don't know who wants to blow us up or them or not. While Israel is a supposed ally- seems we get involved over there far too much. BUT it is not up to me, is it? There is a good reason I hold no office. I see Israel as a nation who is far from God- a secular nation now-
a remnant of Israel will be saved. That's up to God. I pray for them all.
As for Palestinians? Same- they need Christ. Terrorism- does it exist? seems so, and Muslim nations don't even want them around.- other than Iran. What do you make of that?
Human shields is cowardice nasty warfare. If they use that- they are very scary people. Their children are raised to hate Jews, apparently. None of that is good.- I have Q's about October 7th. . I don't like wars but know they are going to happen no matter if I took a side or not. So, I just don't 'take a side. Whatever God's will is -will be done- no matter what you , I or anyone thinks. It is not something to hate people over. That only serves Satan, not Christ.
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Hope you don't mind, Nancy- but these are your quotes. just a few short years ago-
"I do have a problem with any US President that would speak against Israel."
"I pray that the U.S. NEVER turns against Israel!"
"I will always believe that the Jewish nation are God's chosen people. I know Jew or Gentile must accept Jesus as The Christ to be saved but, I will always pray for them and be grateful that they were the people who ushered Christ in, and they were chosen for that very purpose."
"Agreed. They are already gathering the materials as well as interviewing priests. The Antichrist will make it desolate when he declares that he is God. The Jews will have their eyes finally opened to see the Truth, amen!"
"If what you are saying is that the Church is "spiritual" Israel, where is that justified in Scripture? Israel is called Jehovah's wife. The Church is called the Bride of Christ so, I certainly see a distinction."
Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed."
"Israel is the natural branches and the believing Gentiles are the wild branches. Still two different bodies of believers." <--- Amen.
The Jews will ALWAYS be God's Chosen people.
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You did a 180!! You sound just like pro Israel posters here. . So- what happened? If might be helpful if you calmly explained how you came to believe what you do now. I can't do that having never held either opinion strongly. I try not to focus on things I have zero control over. I have plenty to do which I can control. Maybe if you start a thread explaining this it would enlighten some people.
I hate when Christians fight. It really stumbles me. I have spoken to cult members and deniers with a better attitude than I see on here between believers. It's just downright disturbing to me. The scriptures can be confusing! An honest person admits that much. The Lord opens pieces up to us, but not all and certainly not all at once. We are all growing. No need to put others down. Take breaks and walk away if you have to. I worry for you, Nancy. You are going to make yourself sick,
Ok - I don't see that proves they are indigenous. There are several claims out there. It's a very interesting word-
indigenous- it is a big deal to the United Nations Agenda 2030 formerly 21.--- Funny how that word became very popular in our country - after that Agenda was implemented. I read it many years ago- very disturbing. Every single thing we see in the news- is from that. Nothing is spontaneous. The fighting is also a part of how to divide and conquer.
What we need to do is keep our hearts in love with Jesus and for others- especially our bros and sisters!- A person who votes has nothing to do with the evil that person may do after getting in there. We can only go by what they say.
If no Christians voted ever again- our country will be sent into a living hell faster than we can blink. We already have enough problems just trying to kink up the globalist UN plan. If we make it harder we make it for them- the longer it takes- I have children and grandkids. I don't want them to live as serfs in human settlements. <-- exact wording from UN agenda 21. I read it many years ago. It is evil and IT IS happening. Each president scoots it along more since Bush SR signed it in 91. Obama especially ran with it like a maniac. I have some issues with Trump- but he was a far better choice than the laughing hyena. He defunded the UN and stopped a lot of it. I commend him for those things. Sadly, he is increasing other parts.- and where he ended it is all EOs- too easily undone.
So, I don't back the admin 100%- nope. But I do not regret helping to keep kamala out. We need to keep sober minds and clear thinking and most of all concern for others. There is a lot of info out there on the net- we can not believe much of it. There is controlled opposition and people think they found someone like minded with great info- when really all it does is divide us more. Our fight is NOT against flesh and blood. -- Consider a thread on the topic of how you changed your view? I would read it. If anyone calls anyone names or insults them- report them. That has to stop!