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It s very easy to stop.

2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

It’s easy but very unlikely to happen.
no doubt that would have stayed any coming judgement of destruction .
Only the means by what many now consider repetance , is RATHER BECOME ACCEPTANCE .
And by means of that love , OH THE END WILL SURELY COME . so my cry and warning shall continue .
Get every man , woman and child outta anything ecumeincal an d right now . That entire inclusive house is coming DOWN
on JESUS DAY . and i mean FLAT TO THE G ROUND with ZERO survivors .
The mainline churches are NOT gonna preach repentance . THEY gonna put ya hopes in some kind of end time revival
and one that has been like these other so called ones as of late , A MOVEMENT that sounds CHRIST CENTERED
but you will see unrepentant sinners weeping with tears on stage and talking about A love and GOD they KNOW ZERO about .
ITS A FALSE revival friend . ONE that will NOT expose real sins and make the only sin it calls sin , CORRECTION OF SINS .
OH i been watching friend . I been watching for years . these big moves of what many have claimed as the SPIRIT
ONLY TO SEE , UNREPENTANT ones leading it . AINT LOOKING GOOD my friend .
IN fact the very love and repentance they claim , IS THE WH OLE REASON the whole house will COME crashing down ON JESUS
day . And they just lost enough to think its gonna usher in peace n safety to this world . OH ITS GONNA usher in someth ing all right .
AND it wont be their peace n safety but their SUDDEN DESTRUcTION
by the vERY GOD , their love and tolerance and acceptance of sins and unbelief , DENIED . THE WHOLE H OUSE IS COMING
down my friend . CAUSE THEY WONT repent . THEY ONLY come to a god who accepts their sin and promises
them salvation . AND friend , that god cannot save but has only p repared them to the day of their own perdition .
 
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There is a very eye-opening book by Ilan Pappe titled The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. Ilan is a Jewish historian and lives in Israel. These Palestinians are the indigenous people and have been in that land for centuries.

Hi Nancy. The question is, what is a Palestinian? Historically speaking, the name "Palestinian" is derived from the Philistines, who no longer exist as a distinct people. Their namesake later became associated with the geographic region of the Southern Levant. It was a name that stuck after the Romans renamed the land of Judah to Palaestina, which is where we get the word "Palestine." For a time in the early 20th century, even Jews were called Palestinians. But the reality is what we call the Palestinians today are not really a distinct ethnic people with their own language and customs. They are genetically similar to other groups in the region, including, ironically, the Jews.

As to the claim of ethnic cleansing, I've looked up the statistics, and it just doesn't support that narrative. The population in Gaza has increased by 20 to 25 percent in the last decade alone, per their own internal stats. And if you were to combine the Palestinian populations in Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel proper, they actually outnumber the Jewish population by a slim margin.

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Unfortunately, the church as a whole have been hammering the hatred of the Palestinians over and over again and at this point, the congregations do not even question it.
Where is the proof to back up your statement that the church as a whole teaches anyone to hate the Palestinians?
 
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Another reason to share is because some Western girls are clueless about Islam and get involved with a Muslim man which doesn't end well.
Was it Sally Fields that played in a movie called Not without my Daughter?


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Was it Sally Fields that played in a movie called Not without my Daughter?


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Yes it was Sally Fields.

The well made true movie is free on the Tubi app or on YouTube. Well worth watching.
 
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Yes it was Sally Fields.

The well made true movie is free on the Tubi app or on YouTube. Well worth watching.
I didn't realize it was Iran that her husband took the family to during the war when the Ayatollah and the IRGC took control.
I just remember parts of it. I think it came out in the mid to late 80's.
But I am glad I found that video of the real Betty Mahmoody.
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I didn't realize it was Iran that her husband took the family to during the war when the Ayatollah and the IRGC took control.
I just remember parts of it. I think it came out in the mid to late 80's.
But I am glad I found that video of the real Betty Mahmoody.
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I have seen Not Without My Daughter about three times. But on TV I think they cut out a little bit... however I watched it on Tubi TV app recently and it was the full movie. Still interesting...if anyone hasn't seen it, check it out. Also free on YouTube.
 
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Where is the proof to back up your statement that the church as a whole teaches anyone to hate the Palestinians?
Ummmm, experience?! Well, all of the "Christians" who align themselves with this obviously evil administration, the Nationalist and especially the Zionist churches most certainly DO hate the indigenous people, who have systematically been disgustingly prosecuted, killed, wiped out over and over again by the secular state of Israel.


  • The Holy Land in Islamic Texts: The Quran does not use the word Filastin. Instead, Middle Eastern Muslims refer to the area as al-Ard al-Muqaddasah (the Holy Land) or al-Ard al-Mubarakah (the Blessed Land), describing it as a sacred region tied to numerous prophets including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. [1, 2, 3]
  • Connection to the Land: Mainstream historical and cultural perspectives among Middle Eastern Arabs view the name Filastin as a continuous geographic descriptor for the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea that has been inhabited by its local multi-religious society over millennia. [1, 2, 3]
 

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All the Israel / Trump haters on Earth CAN'T remove Israel from their Land of the Bible. MANY will die trying.

Amos 9:14-15

14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; ...
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.

Israel is home to stay in their Land!
 
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Well, all of the "Christians" who align themselves with this obviously evil administration, the Nationalist and especially the Zionist churches most certainly DO hate the indigenous people, who have systematically been disgustingly prosecuted, killed, wiped out over and over again by the secular state of Israel.

Nancy would you have rather had Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz who both accept LGBTQ+ ?

I have posted videos about them to expose their beliefs. While in the White House Kamala hosted a gay man with a beard wearing a dress. Tim Waltz's church accepts LGBTQ+ and even uses pronouns on name tags. On his church's website no mention of salvation, no mention of Jesus Christ...But their perverted acceptance of LGBTQ+ was prominent.


Do you know many Arab Muslims live in Israel happily? I've seen interviews with them. They have businesses and Israel even has some Arab Muslims in their government. They co-exist. However in the Hamas charter, it says they will wipe every Jew off of the face of the earth.

Do you remember all of the suicide bombings Israel had in the past? The suicide bombers would come over from Gaza. So that's why Israel had to make checkpoints...to prevent suicide bombers.

Also @Jericho could explain this better than me. But in the past, it was always the Arab countries attacking Israel. Israel only defended themselves and even regained some land.
 

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Ummmm, experience?! Well, all of the "Christians" who align themselves with this obviously evil administration, the Nationalist and especially the Zionist churches most certainly DO hate the indigenous people, who have systematically been disgustingly prosecuted, killed, wiped out over and over again by the secular state of Israel.
OH Nancy-I see those as very broad & judgmental statements. Do you know these people? I can't say what is in those people's hearts. I don't know any of them. Putting "Christian' in quotes means you consider them to be non-Christians.
I still have no idea if I am considered a Nationalist because the definitions varied so much that I gave up tryna figure it out.. So- I simply asked you to define it for me, on that horrid Nationalist thread - and your reply was rude and hurtful. You said-
"I don't fight with the BLIND."
To me, to call someone blind means they reject Jesus. It was a mean spirited insult imho.
Why not just answer a simple Q? What is a Nationalist to you? I honestly don't know. I will tell you how I see it- its very simple to me, but someone changed the definition, I do believe. It never had a thing to do with Israel.

There appears to be only 2 views on Israel here. I think much of the country has a 3rd view. I don't fit either. I know this- they all need Christ as much as I do, and I am not flustered by wars- Jesus told us wars were necessary- see that you are not terrified. Expect wars- THEY MUST COME TO PASS! matt 24
I don't have the advantage of reading itel,- I don't know who wants to blow us up or them or not. While Israel is a supposed ally- seems we get involved over there far too much. BUT it is not up to me, is it? There is a good reason I hold no office. I see Israel as a nation who is far from God- a secular nation now- a remnant of Israel will be saved. That's up to God. I pray for them all.
As for Palestinians? Same- they need Christ. Terrorism- does it exist? seems so, and Muslim nations don't even want them around.- other than Iran. What do you make of that?
Human shields is cowardice nasty warfare. If they use that- they are very scary people. Their children are raised to hate Jews, apparently. None of that is good.- I have Q's about October 7th. . I don't like wars but know they are going to happen no matter if I took a side or not. So, I just don't 'take a side. Whatever God's will is -will be done- no matter what you , I or anyone thinks. It is not something to hate people over. That only serves Satan, not Christ.
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Hope you don't mind, Nancy- but these are your quotes. just a few short years ago-

"I do have a problem with any US President that would speak against Israel."

"I pray that the U.S. NEVER turns against Israel!"


"I will always believe that the Jewish nation are God's chosen people. I know Jew or Gentile must accept Jesus as The Christ to be saved but, I will always pray for them and be grateful that they were the people who ushered Christ in, and they were chosen for that very purpose."

"Agreed. They are already gathering the materials as well as interviewing priests. The Antichrist will make it desolate when he declares that he is God. The Jews will have their eyes finally opened to see the Truth, amen!"



"If what you are saying is that the Church is "spiritual" Israel, where is that justified in Scripture? Israel is called Jehovah's wife. The Church is called the Bride of Christ so, I certainly see a distinction."


Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

"Israel is the natural branches and the believing Gentiles are the wild branches. Still two different bodies of believers." <--- Amen.

The Jews will ALWAYS be God's Chosen people.
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You did a 180!! You sound just like pro Israel posters here. . So- what happened? If might be helpful if you calmly explained how you came to believe what you do now. I can't do that having never held either opinion strongly. I try not to focus on things I have zero control over. I have plenty to do which I can control. Maybe if you start a thread explaining this it would enlighten some people.
I hate when Christians fight. It really stumbles me. I have spoken to cult members and deniers with a better attitude than I see on here between believers. It's just downright disturbing to me. The scriptures can be confusing! An honest person admits that much. The Lord opens pieces up to us, but not all and certainly not all at once. We are all growing. No need to put others down. Take breaks and walk away if you have to. I worry for you, Nancy. You are going to make yourself sick,


  • The Holy Land in Islamic Texts: The Quran does not use the word Filastin. Instead, Middle Eastern Muslims refer to the area as al-Ard al-Muqaddasah (the Holy Land) or al-Ard al-Mubarakah (the Blessed Land), describing it as a sacred region tied to numerous prophets including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. [1, 2, 3]
  • Connection to the Land: Mainstream historical and cultural perspectives among Middle Eastern Arabs view the name Filastin as a continuous geographic descriptor for the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea that has been inhabited by its local multi-religious society over millennia. [1, 2, 3]
Ok - I don't see that proves they are indigenous. There are several claims out there. It's a very interesting word- indigenous- it is a big deal to the United Nations Agenda 2030 formerly 21.--- Funny how that word became very popular in our country - after that Agenda was implemented. I read it many years ago- very disturbing. Every single thing we see in the news- is from that. Nothing is spontaneous. The fighting is also a part of how to divide and conquer.
What we need to do is keep our hearts in love with Jesus and for others- especially our bros and sisters!- A person who votes has nothing to do with the evil that person may do after getting in there. We can only go by what they say.
If no Christians voted ever again- our country will be sent into a living hell faster than we can blink. We already have enough problems just trying to kink up the globalist UN plan. If we make it harder we make it for them- the longer it takes- I have children and grandkids. I don't want them to live as serfs in human settlements. <-- exact wording from UN agenda 21. I read it many years ago. It is evil and IT IS happening. Each president scoots it along more since Bush SR signed it in 91. Obama especially ran with it like a maniac. I have some issues with Trump- but he was a far better choice than the laughing hyena. He defunded the UN and stopped a lot of it. I commend him for those things. Sadly, he is increasing other parts.- and where he ended it is all EOs- too easily undone.
So, I don't back the admin 100%- nope. But I do not regret helping to keep kamala out. We need to keep sober minds and clear thinking and most of all concern for others. There is a lot of info out there on the net- we can not believe much of it. There is controlled opposition and people think they found someone like minded with great info- when really all it does is divide us more. Our fight is NOT against flesh and blood. -- Consider a thread on the topic of how you changed your view? I would read it. If anyone calls anyone names or insults them- report them. That has to stop!
 
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OH Nancy-I see those as very broad & judgmental statements. Do you know these people? I can't say what is in those people's hearts. I don't know any of them. Putting "Christian' in quotes means you consider them to be non-Christians.
I still have no idea if I am considered a Nationalist because the definitions varied so much that I gave up tryna figure it out.. So- I simply asked you to define it for me, on that horrid Nationalist thread - and your reply was rude and hurtful. You said-
"I don't fight with the BLIND."
To me, to call someone blind means they reject Jesus. It was a mean spirited insult imho.
Why not just answer a simple Q? What is a Nationalist to you? I honestly don't know. I will tell you how I see it- its very simple to me, but someone changed the definition, I do believe. It never had a thing to do with Israel.

There appears to be only 2 views on Israel here. I think much of the country has a 3rd view. I don't fit either. I know this- they all need Christ as much as I do, and I am not flustered by wars- Jesus told us wars were necessary- see that you are not terrified. Expect wars- THEY MUST COME TO PASS! matt 24
I don't have the advantage of reading itel,- I don't know who wants to blow us up or them or not. While Israel is a supposed ally- seems we get involved over there far too much. BUT it is not up to me, is it? There is a good reason I hold no office. I see Israel as a nation who is far from God- a secular nation now- a remnant of Israel will be saved. That's up to God. I pray for them all.
As for Palestinians? Same- they need Christ. Terrorism- does it exist? seems so, and Muslim nations don't even want them around.- other than Iran. What do you make of that?
Human shields is cowardice nasty warfare. If they use that- they are very scary people. Their children are raised to hate Jews, apparently. None of that is good.- I have Q's about October 7th. . I don't like wars but know they are going to happen no matter if I took a side or not. So, I just don't 'take a side. Whatever God's will is -will be done- no matter what you , I or anyone thinks. It is not something to hate people over. That only serves Satan, not Christ.
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Hope you don't mind, Nancy- but these are your quotes. just a few short years ago-

"I do have a problem with any US President that would speak against Israel."

"I pray that the U.S. NEVER turns against Israel!"


"I will always believe that the Jewish nation are God's chosen people. I know Jew or Gentile must accept Jesus as The Christ to be saved but, I will always pray for them and be grateful that they were the people who ushered Christ in, and they were chosen for that very purpose."

"Agreed. They are already gathering the materials as well as interviewing priests. The Antichrist will make it desolate when he declares that he is God. The Jews will have their eyes finally opened to see the Truth, amen!"



"If what you are saying is that the Church is "spiritual" Israel, where is that justified in Scripture? Israel is called Jehovah's wife. The Church is called the Bride of Christ so, I certainly see a distinction."


Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

"Israel is the natural branches and the believing Gentiles are the wild branches. Still two different bodies of believers." <--- Amen.

The Jews will ALWAYS be God's Chosen people.
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You did a 180!! You sound just like pro Israel posters here. . So- what happened? If might be helpful if you calmly explained how you came to believe what you do now. I can't do that having never held either opinion strongly. I try not to focus on things I have zero control over. I have plenty to do which I can control. Maybe if you start a thread explaining this it would enlighten some people.
I hate when Christians fight. It really stumbles me. I have spoken to cult members and deniers with a better attitude than I see on here between believers. It's just downright disturbing to me. The scriptures can be confusing! An honest person admits that much. The Lord opens pieces up to us, but not all and certainly not all at once. We are all growing. No need to put others down. Take breaks and walk away if you have to. I worry for you, Nancy. You are going to make yourself sick,



Ok - I don't see that proves they are indigenous. There are several claims out there. It's a very interesting word- indigenous- it is a big deal to the United Nations Agenda 2030 formerly 21.--- Funny how that word became very popular in our country - after that Agenda was implemented. I read it many years ago- very disturbing. Every single thing we see in the news- is from that. Nothing is spontaneous. The fighting is also a part of how to divide and conquer.
What we need to do is keep our hearts in love with Jesus and for others- especially our bros and sisters!- A person who votes has nothing to do with the evil that person may do after getting in there. We can only go by what they say.
If no Christians voted ever again- our country will be sent into a living hell faster than we can blink. We already have enough problems just trying to kink up the globalist UN plan. If we make it harder we make it for them- the longer it takes- I have children and grandkids. I don't want them to live as serfs in human settlements. <-- exact wording from UN agenda 21. I read it many years ago. It is evil and IT IS happening. Each president scoots it along more since Bush SR signed it in 91. Obama especially ran with it like a maniac. I have some issues with Trump- but he was a far better choice than the laughing hyena. He defunded the UN and stopped a lot of it. I commend him for those things. Sadly, he is increasing other parts.- and where he ended it is all EOs- too easily undone.
So, I don't back the admin 100%- nope. But I do not regret helping to keep kamala out. We need to keep sober minds and clear thinking and most of all concern for others. There is a lot of info out there on the net- we can not believe much of it. There is controlled opposition and people think they found someone like minded with great info- when really all it does is divide us more. Our fight is NOT against flesh and blood. -- Consider a thread on the topic of how you changed your view? I would read it. If anyone calls anyone names or insults them- report them. That has to stop!
Hello PS,
I do not have the time this morning to address all you said. But, I would like to apologize for being rude and hurtful, I'm usually not like that, I am sorry.

Yes indeed I did write those things as I too was a Zionist along with the droves of Christians for decades. Until I started to pray and wonder about it all. Two of my friends one who is a longtime friend and Christian both said something to me about true Israel and "those who say they are Jews but are not, they lie..." And since I posted that thread I have done much study, much reading, and much praying to understand why so many were against the secular nation of Israel. So, in trying to understand it, I found myself having to agree with my Christian friend after truly reading and studying the other side of the coin. Satan deceives the whole world and he has had his plans since the beginning of time and I see everything as directed by him...yes, spiritual warfare is indeed needed and is already happening in the heavens. My belief is that all high powered corporations, businesses, churches and especially politics are filled with Satan's minions, and have been used to usher in the A.C., the beast system. I trust nobody and question everything.
I believe the enemy has, for centuries, infiltrated the church, just like politics, education, the military (especially now). The devil has had millennia to learn human nature and uses it to his advantage, and our detriment.

I would like to address your reply more thoroughly later.

Thank you, and enjoy your day!
Peace and grace to you.
 

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Ummmm, experience?! Well, all of the "Christians" who align themselves with this obviously evil administration, the Nationalist and especially the Zionist churches most certainly DO hate the indigenous people, who have systematically been disgustingly prosecuted, killed, wiped out over and over again by the secular state of Israel.

Nancy, did you not see my post here where the numbers simply do not support that narrative? It would have to be the only "genocide" in recorded history where the population has actually increased. How does that make sense? Also, are not the Jews indigenous to that region as well?

The Holy Land in Islamic Texts: The Quran does not use the word Filastin. Instead, Middle Eastern Muslims refer to the area as al-Ard al-Muqaddasah (the Holy Land) or al-Ard al-Mubarakah (the Blessed Land), describing it as a sacred region tied to numerous prophets including Abraham, Moses, and Jesus.

What does this imply, exactly? The prophet Mohammed never physically went to the Holy Land; he only claimed to have traveled there in a vision. Muslims don't make pilgrimage to the Holy Land or pray in its direction; that is reserved for Mecca in Saudi Arabia. That is their most holiest site. They cared so little about the Holy Land that it was a barren wasteland when it was under the control of the Ottoman Turks. They only started to care about it when the Jews gained control of it.

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